Oldtimer's Haze

[Terpene]

Thanks Zach. Of the three, the green zip tie pheno is my favorite. I've nicknamed her "Little Finger". Every leaf has a weird mutation where the center finger of every leaf is shorter than the outside two fingers (and usually the outside 4 fingers) which sorta looks like

The green zip tie female may not be a "purple" haze, but it is a fantastic representation of the Ace Old Timers Haze line. Strong bud development for a haze in a very short amount of time (only 14-15 weeks!). My description of the smell as bright freshly sanded sandalwood hardly does it justice. Its incensey, slightly spicy and interesting / intriguing. I am really looking forward to popping the seeds in this one.

 

[pedrero]

hi dubi and friends!

here´s a purple haze all natural grow, i´m striving to control the height cause in my area the repression is not funny

almost 12 weeks, finally fixing the bud sites and stop stretching

thanks for all good information here! best vibes!

 

[dubi]

Update on my Oldtimer's Haze 26 week pheno. 1 month cure thus far and she is turning out to be too good to be true. The potency, flavor and everything else about this is pushing me to the next level, love it. The high is very floaty and makes you happy. It's one of them deep feeling type of highs that really sets in. You actually notice the quality of the high then can enjoy the high even that much more. I can see what Ace means by stimulating mental effects because it really can lock you in. I forget to blink sometimes just staring into or off into space. The flavor I prefer myself, she is tasty with a mix of fruits, spices and incense. I know the site says some black liquor and wood but I don't taste any of that. I taste the haze in it for sure which is probably the woody taste and smell.

The good thing is she even rewarded me with a completely developed seed, looks almost like the one I planted funny enough. Probably her trying to save herself and her genetics maybe? I intend to plant that seed and see how she/he turns out.

Here's a photo of the middle section of the plant. Will post photos and better smoke report in another month. That report will be done testing the top portions of the plant. Can't wait .

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Thanks again for the report Dr.King

I think all the oldtimer's haze have a quite evident 'woody' element in the taste, maybe others call it 'spicy'.

As rolandomota pointed out, the aromas of mature tropical fruits are usually more evident and stronger in the green pheno, while the purple hazes usually lack of it and show the black liquor terpenes.

Both phenos share more or less the same woody, spicy, incensey, classic haze aromas.

 

[dubi]

Very nice haze Terpene

I'd love to see a close up if you have the chance, she looks resinous, with big ovaries.
I think there's something about your LEDs and your growing conditions that helps them to finish faster.

The purple hazes (at least in Oldtimer's Haze line) need quite low temps and outdoor conditions to show evidently the purple colors.
I have the feeling that if you flower a clone of this plant outdoors in a location with slightly fresh autumn it will show nice colors.

Be careful with the salts, they don't need much water/fertilizer indoors with small pots, and it's easy to burn them due the long flowering and their soft feeding requeriments .... they need to grow big outdoors to have a more active metabolism and be able to accept more quantities of water and nutrients, they are wild tropical sativas after all.

It's normal you find resemblances between this Purple Haze and the Purple Haze Thai, both releases were bred with the same Purple Haze 23 parental plant although the thai cross is not so inbred, it's more vigorous and better yielding than the straight Purple Haze.

 

[dubi]

Hi pedrero,

Thanks for joining the thread with your beautiful outdoor haze
Lovely structure and leaves, great outdoor vibe!

The fun is about to start, best wishes and please keep us updated!

 

[dubi]

Hola dubi!

I was wondering how this lady would behave in the Canarias, do you have any reports, amigo?

Lots of respect for your work guys!

Hola AlessOnFire,

We have tested, bred and reproduced Oldtimer's haze outdoors in a coastal warm mediterranean climate at 37º N latitude with good success, although they are a bit on the limit .... it doesn't freeze or snow here even in the worst days of winter, but sometimes November and December come a bit cloudy, windy and cold (depending on the year) to mature the hazes up to their full potential.

The subtropical climate of Canary Islands is much more favourable (regarding photoperiod, temperatures variations in the different seasons, and light intensity) to grow pure Haze outdoors, much better than in the peninsule. Oldtimer's Haze line and the Haze/Thai crosses have been grown in Lanzarote with great success since they were released.

Have in mind that they must be planted from seed/started from clone in the main outdoor season, starting in spring and finishing in Christmas.
If you plant them out of season they can easily reveg in spring, even there.

Hope it helps!

 

[dubi]

Yo Dubi, are you guys planning on releasing a OT Haze breeders pack?

Do you guys still have the other Purple Haze clones from your first release or are you mostly working with the work done with the #23 mother plant?

All the plants are looking great guys!

Hi Bob,

Most probably yes, there will be an 'Oldtimer's Haze' breeders pack in the future. We are about to finish a new Oldtimer's Haze selection/reproduction (it's the next one after the one done in 2011) and we still need to check the new parental plants from these new generations.

We continue selecting and inbreeding towards the Purple Haze 23 and Green Haze 19, which are my favourite parental plants of each extreme, using the same old mothers and inbred offspring lines of them to produce the seeds.

At the same time we are growing open pollinated haze lines, not related to parental plants 19 and 23. We are finding very different expressions, from big yielding cola plants to more skinny expressions ... purple, green, green/purple and even a very pale/ yellowish low yielding pheno that looks very much like old colombian gold pics, all these parental are also being open pollinated just to make sure we are not missing interesting expressions.

 

[SapoVerde]

dubi, so which ones are going to be the fresh stock? The inbred ones or the open pollinated ones?

 

[dubi]

Welcome SapoVerde,

The aim of Oldtimer's Haze release it's try to offer the best and widest genetic diversity of this old haze line, so to answer your question: new Oldtimer's Haze standard release will contain Purple Haze 23 inbred, Green Haze 19 inbred and offspring from the best new open pollinated parental plants.

 

[Dr.King]

Welcome SapoVerde,

The aim of Oldtimer's Haze release it's try to offer the best and widest genetic diversity of this old haze line, so to answer your question: new Oldtimer's Haze standard release will contain Purple Haze 23 inbred, Green Haze 19 inbred and offspring from the best new open pollinated parental plants.

Thanks again Dubi and your crew. Can't wait to grow some 20 or 30 foot trees of my baby. Love the OTH line so much, it is my holy grail for sure. I do plan to grow atleast 20-50 each of the OTH, Green Haze, Purple Haze and Zamaldelica trees once I move then they will be in shops soon enough(2016 crossing my fingers). These genetics need to be share with the whole US, rightfully so .

 

[Jhonny]

are you planning to realease your own Haze line Dr.King?

 

[SapoVerde]

Welcome SapoVerde,

The aim of Oldtimer's Haze release it's try to offer the best and widest genetic diversity of this old haze line, so to answer your question: new Oldtimer's Haze standard release will contain Purple Haze 23 inbred, Green Haze 19 inbred and offspring from the best new open pollinated parental plants.

Thanks dubi

@ Dr.King

Nice job on your OTH and Green Haze by the way, they looked amazing.
Much success with your future plans

 

[Dr.King]

are you planning to realease your own Haze line Dr.King?

Indeed I do plan to cross my favorite OTH's with both Ace's Zamaldelica and Raredarkness Ghost Train Haze #1. GTH #1 cup keeper is some real fire. Straight sour as a warhead and smells the same. Smoke is insane with amped up euphoria at it's highest. Better then cali Sour Diesel imo.

Thanks dubi

@ Dr.King

Nice job on your OTH and Green Haze by the way, they looked amazing.
Much success with your future plans

Thanks man, much success in your future as well friend.

 

[JohnnyChicago]

Oldtimer's Haze with leaf mutations pollinated by a very stinky Original Haze male

 

[JohnnyChicago]

and a pic of a leaf mutation

 

[dubi]

Indeed I do plan to cross my favorite OTH's with both Ace's Zamaldelica and Raredarkness Ghost Train Haze #1. GTH #1 cup keeper is some real fire. Straight sour as a warhead and smells the same. Smoke is insane with amped up euphoria at it's highest. Better then cali Sour Diesel imo.

Thanks man, much success in your future as well friend.

You have in mind very interesting crosses Dr King

Oldtimer's Haze usually explodes (in a good way) when is outcrossed. If you really enjoyed the traits of your selected haze mother, you can easily produce haze dominant hybrids that display these desirable traits even in a stronger way. I'm also planning a cross between the Zamaldelica elite Zamal dominant pheno and selected Haze parental plants for the end of the year

 

[dubi]

Interesting and curious mutation JohnnyChicago
I rarely have seen this type of mutation in Oldtimer's Haze line.

Your selected Oldtimer's Haze female looks very resinous,
how are the aromas in the last part of the flowering ?
How many weeks she is into flowering ?

I like a lot the idea of crossing Oldtimer's Haze with Original Haze or Tom's Haze.
These kind of crosses should produce very nice pure Haze F1 hybrids,
hopefully recovering the vigour and intensity that the line had decades ago
and without the need of introducing completly different genetics to restore the desirable heterosis.

 

[Dr.King]

You have in mind very interesting crosses Dr King

Oldtimer's Haze usually explodes (in a good way) when is outcrossed. If you really enjoyed the traits of your selected haze mother, you can easily produce haze dominant hybrids that display these desirable traits even in a stronger way. I'm also planning a cross between the Zamaldelica elite Zamal dominant pheno and selected Haze parental plants for the end of the year

Why thank you Dubi. I look forward to your release of the ZD x Haze, it does sound yummie. Will be nice testing them side by side together one day, I can't wait. Seems we think a like .

I like a lot the idea of crossing Oldtimer's Haze with Original Haze or Tom's Haze.
These kind of crosses should produce very nice pure Haze F1 hybrids,
hopefully recovering the vigour and intensity that the line had decades ago
and without the need of introducing completly different genetics to restore the desirable heterosis.

That does sound like a amazing idea. Flying Dutchmen Seeds has The Original Haze which states it takes 36 weeks to flower which is insane. Another good cross would be SnowHigh Seeds Original Haze x Lambsbread. When I do intend to cross some of these it will be under 4k's. Couple years down the road but gotta have goals in life . You put so many more crosses into my mind with crossing a older haze with my fav haze .

 

[JohnnyChicago]

how are the aromas in the last part of the flowering ? How many weeks she is into flowering ?

When I took cuttings the stems had a very strong ripe berries scent, but the flowers do smell like corn fields in the mornings and some kind of wood resin. Pics are from week 11. Unfortunately I have found a nanner on this Oldtimer's Haze, but it's still my favorite to combine with Sam's Original Hazes that do all have the same peppery, woody and floral aromas. But all the OTH's, PH's and OH's have been pollinated by the 2 OH males and I plan to use a PH male for the best OH cuttings.

 

[Genghis Kush]

I'm trying to germinate some OTH and Green Haze/Thai, but having no luck.
right now I'm 0/3 and 0/3.

I've germinated about 20 other seeds (soaking overnight in a glass and then into a paper towel) in the last couple weeks without problems.

My question is, does anybody know if know if the OTH needs more heat to pop the seeds than other strains?

I have been putting them in paper towel on a window sill but its been cloudy and rainy all week and only about 60 degrees max.

The OTH seeds are only a couple months old.

So, do I need it to be warmer to pop these seeds ??
or does it take longer for them to pop?

thanks so much