Apache Kush
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Holy crap its sounds like a violent scene out of the Rum Diaries ^
what would you title this movie, Sforzaif you made it lol?
what would you title this movie, Sforzaif you made it lol?
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stickydank
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a few from the stickydank
a few from the stickydank
A group pic the closest 3 are Bogglegums 30 days 24/7 400watts
The two in da back are OMG stickydanks@ 17 days
2 in the cups are the twins separated and a pic of the twins before i separated them
Twins!!!!!!! From one seed of Bogglegum Sweet
I want to have a party for us here in May Whos in?!!!!!
a few from the stickydank
A group pic the closest 3 are Bogglegums 30 days 24/7 400watts
The two in da back are OMG stickydanks@ 17 days
2 in the cups are the twins separated and a pic of the twins before i separated them
Twins!!!!!!! From one seed of Bogglegum Sweet
I want to have a party for us here in May Whos in?!!!!!
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Apache Kush
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2 seedlings came out of one seed? what the fuckie? never heard of that in plants...
Nice BOG gear dude! that grow is gona be badass when its finished
do you got a thread dedicated to that SD? ill stop in and throw some rep
Nice BOG gear dude! that grow is gona be badass when its finished
do you got a thread dedicated to that SD? ill stop in and throw some rep
stickydank
Member
A few pics for apache kush
A few pics for apache kush
A thread of my Medical Grow Hmmmm maybe but I'll just post some pics here Also
This post was made for past and new grows here in Arizona
Burn down with me this summer !!!! I want to start a Meeting for us all that wants too soon!
worms ready too make cocoons
A few pics for apache kush
A thread of my Medical Grow Hmmmm maybe but I'll just post some pics here Also
This post was made for past and new grows here in Arizona
Burn down with me this summer !!!! I want to start a Meeting for us all that wants too soon!
worms ready too make cocoons
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Apache Kush
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Its all good my bad SD. Plenty of great threads with the bog gear on this site I follow.
Its great to see the pics of that BOG genetics and how consistent it is, I love that you can get the gentics and then follow other peoples grow and troubleshoot/learn the exact strain you plan on doin, never would have been possible a decade ago, thankful we are living the golden age of legalization and all that. Your patients will be stoked on that BOG bud for sure..
I want to grow the SStrawberrykush or Lifesaver or Grape punch or the BoGgleGum, shit there all dank strains!
cool SD for sure lets try and burn one down and meet up, Pm next time your online I forgot I freind requested so I think we can use the chat feature too. Good Vibes..
Its great to see the pics of that BOG genetics and how consistent it is, I love that you can get the gentics and then follow other peoples grow and troubleshoot/learn the exact strain you plan on doin, never would have been possible a decade ago, thankful we are living the golden age of legalization and all that. Your patients will be stoked on that BOG bud for sure..
I want to grow the SStrawberrykush or Lifesaver or Grape punch or the BoGgleGum, shit there all dank strains!
cool SD for sure lets try and burn one down and meet up, Pm next time your online I forgot I freind requested so I think we can use the chat feature too. Good Vibes..
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rbt
I carried a Browning Hi-Power through airports all the time till around 74 heat from the Munich terror Olympic thing 72. You have to like the commercial flight in Mexico just grab the bottle off the cart and look for a date.
stickydank
Member
Nice flip/flops all i see is gold in them there rocks underfoot i could set up my vac and drywasher some water to pan and BOOOM gold in the pan!!!!! ive got the gold fever
always have.
the fever starts now while the deserts still cool
and after that flood in the fall from the tropical strom hurricane there should be alot of yeller metal in the creeks washes and all
always have.
the fever starts now while the deserts still cool
and after that flood in the fall from the tropical strom hurricane there should be alot of yeller metal in the creeks washes and all
Apache Kush
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party i dunno bro it's a long way to walk...
got a lot of stories about not growing weed around here...
right on the other side of cliffs or big drop offs is a good spot
if you have to have a rope to rope down then its a great spot
on foot and pretty broke 
i recently found a gully that has a shaded rock basin that could hold water, but it's a long way june - september. i tried the mass dispersion technique in some more sheltered local valleys, no go.
i figure someday i'll accumulate some chicken wire, by that time i should know the sweetest spots around.
i recently found a gully that has a shaded rock basin that could hold water, but it's a long way june - september. i tried the mass dispersion technique in some more sheltered local valleys, no go.i figure someday i'll accumulate some chicken wire, by that time i should know the sweetest spots around.
Apache Kush
Member
WG' that picture reminds me of a old high times outdoor gurilla grow article
Like I said they were roping down a rock face to the site they were using, in British Columbia though haha
No weekend rippers or hikers going down that stuff randomly!
Like I said they were roping down a rock face to the site they were using, in British Columbia though haha
No weekend rippers or hikers going down that stuff randomly!
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party i dunno bro it's a long way to walk...
got a lot of stories about not growing weed around here...
Beat the snot out of them Chollas and get them peppered all over the place throw down some ocotillo branches add some cat claw you have the back side of my home now in the Tucson Mtns. Pic looks like the Redingtons about 3000'
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that's true, the materials for a natural barrier are in abundant supply
relatively well polka dotted at most times.. i like to think of cactus needles as a blood serum.. put one "through" my hand last year and there were nerves going off in my other limbs.. serendipitous acupuncture therapy
near mccartney's old place in the rincons.. SNP E and W are sometimes hard to tell apart.
relatively well polka dotted at most times.. i like to think of cactus needles as a blood serum.. put one "through" my hand last year and there were nerves going off in my other limbs.. serendipitous acupuncture therapy
near mccartney's old place in the rincons.. SNP E and W are sometimes hard to tell apart.
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rbt
I will look I have a picture here some place, way back in the 70's there was a desert party in the Tucson mtn's the police broke it up and being remote all agencies responded. A Highway Patrol officer left his keys in the ignition and the door open. Bato barrio jumps n the cruiser and proceed to take off. Well unknown to all of us there is a 30 second delay switch that has to be cleared in this cruiser or it shuts off. It did so Bato Barrio take off running much like the above picture as he is being gained on he decides to jump off the road and take his chances in a wash. It was like 3 am well he never made it to the side of the road even. YEA buddy he jumped straight onto a Saguaro and impaled himself even had them in his eyeball. the police/fire/emergency put straps on steel rods and slowly pulled him off had the sedated him he dam near died there.
OUCH!!!
Apache Kush
Member
Current update on the Safer Arizona website concerning the draft for Adult Use legalization, headed for the ballot in 2016. It utilizes the MPP (Marijuana Policy Project) research and recommendations that have been used by other states:
Current Arizona Marijuana Laws: Arizona REV. STAT. § 13-3401, Arizona REV. STAT. § 13-3405, Arizona REV. STAT. § 13-702
Arizona Medical Marijuana Act of 2010: Prop 203
Situation: The Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) is a well funded national organization that sponsors and finances ballot initiatives for the legalization of cannabis for adult use. They have a track record of getting their laws passed. The MPP is the group that financed Arizona’s medical marijuana act and they are here in Arizona again drafting a legalization initiative for adult use. The problem is that they wrote the medical marijuana law that monopolized the industry for the wealthy and essentially kept home grow and patient to patient sale criminalized. This means that rich investors are getting richer ripping off very sick poor people and locking them up when they are caught trying to treat their illness on their own terms.
Safer Arizona Reviews MPP’s Current Draft of Their Legalization Initiative
One of Safer Arizona services is to represent the Arizona Cannabis Culture professionally to the MPP with your concerns and alternative solutions.
Having attempted to run our own ballot measure during the 2014 election cycle and being intimately aware of the problematic 2010 MPP AMMA Prop 203 campaign, we at Safer Arizona took a very keen interest in MPP’s progress. Our community instructed us to hold to 3 criteria: home-grow rights, basic civil rights protections & small business opportunity. Safer Arizona is lucky to have our lawyer, the nationally renowned Tom Dean, represent us on the drafting committee. Dean was able to prepare extensive notes for the committee on aligning their proposed language with existing state statute. The draft we are reviewing here is the 3rd or 4th draft depending on how one judges such things in a constantly evolving document. The document is currently referred to as Title 36, Chapter 28.2
Disclaimer: The summary below is in no way all inclusive and represents the opinion of Safer AZ staff.
Summary:
Findings (2820) The initiative will amend existing state laws regarding marijuana found in sections ARS13-3401 & 3405. The Findings section (essentially a section explaining the philosophy and intentions of the law) asserts that marijuana should be regulated like alcohol and “individuals will possess the right to produce a limited amount of marijuana for use personal use.” This support of personal grow rights is woven throughout the text of this draft. It goes on to explain the legislation’s strategy includes regulated “marijuana establishments” that can cultivate, process, distribute, test and sell marijuana.
Definitions (2821) The Definitions section has some extremely important points to note: 1) The new adult use regulatory program will be under the Department of Gaming (2821.3). This is a significant shift from the existing medical dispensary licensing program with the Department of Health and Human Services (DHS)—more on that below in the “What’s Bad” section following the summary.
2) Marijuana is defined by what it is not, rather than what it is 2821.7). The most important of these distinctions is that Marijuana is not industrial hemp. Industrial Hemp (2821.4) is defined as plants from “the genus cannabis and any part of such plant” with a THC level of less than .03%. This is significant because most all cannabis plants from the mildest indica to the most potent sativa have a THC level of less than .03% until they reach the flowering stage. This means that only mature THC bearing plants will matter on plant count. Marijuana is also NOT the weight of other ingredients in various edibles and preparations or “marijuana accessories.” Marijuana accessories include “any equipment, products, or materials of any kind” for marijuana cultivation, processing or consumption. This means an end to arrests for paraphernalia. Lastly the definitions also explain the term, “Unreasonably impracticable,” meaning that marijuana establishments will not be subjected to regulations that are so extreme as to make impossible for a reasonable businessman to conduct reasonable business.
Limitations (2822)
Of course there will still be limitations as to what a person can do with marijuana: No operating a motor vehicle or consuming inside the passenger compartment of one, unless it is in the living quarters of an RV or something similar. No distributing marijuana to anyone under 21, no marijuana in correctional facilities or schools (though we are calling for excluding adult learning facilities, such as colleges and cosmetology schools). No use of marijuana when it constitutes “negligence or professional malpractice.” Employers and landlords will still be allowed to discriminate against marijuana users in employment and housing. Of note: this section includes the disclaimer that this law will not affect the provisions or protections of the AMMA. The most important passage here is the reminder that a person will need a license to do marijuana business. This is a reminder that there are opportunities for entrepreneurs to enter the industry.
Rulemaking (2823)
Marijuana establishments will still be required to have security and surveillance equipment on site and be able to track their inventory. There will be a requirement for marijuana testing and labeling: solvents, pollutants, THC, CBD and dosage per package. The state will create a “statewide license class system” for licensing both unlimited and limited permits for cultivation, processing, distributing, selling or testing marijuana. This section explicitly states that the lower level license shall not exceed 1/3 of the cost of the unlimited licenses. Consumers will not be required to present personal information other than proof of age to purchase marijuana and no records are to be kept or reported of a person’s purchases.
Local Control (2824)
Local governments (county and city governments) will still have power to regulate marijuana in their jurisdictions, but cannot create rules that are “unreasonably impracticable.” Currently this section also includes the line that localities may enact rules restricting “consumption, production, processing, manufacturing, and transportation of marijuana.” We are calling for a change in this language to remove the word “transportation” and add the word “public” to consumption. If different jurisdictions could restrict transportation of marijuana then how could the average consumer keep track of the maze of conflicting jurisdictions on the highways?
Licensing (2826)
Marijuana establishments are still prohibited within 300 of churches and schools. Licenses will be awarded on merit, not random selection; one establishment cannot hold multiple licenses in an area if it prohibits competition. Ex-felons can apply for licenses after five years.
Licensing Fee Schedule (2826.1)
The fee for being an unlimited cultivator is $30,000 (limited license is $10,000), renewal is $10,000. There are also new and renewal license fees for processing, retail sales, distribution, and testing. Of note, it goes on to say that if the state does not create sufficient regulations and implementation in a timely manner, then applicants can apply directly to their localities for licensing.
Operating Requirements (2827)
The biggest change here is a lowering of the requirements for outdoor cultivation security. Fencing will now need to be 8 feet tall and marijuana operations must not be visible without “binoculars, aircraft or other optical aids.” As expected, all marijuana establishments will be subject to inspection.
Personal Use and Cultivation (2828)
No more civil forfeitures, consumers may purchase up to one ounce of marijuana at a time or 5 grams of concentrate (we are calling for higher limits) and transfer marijuana between friends. A person can grow 6 plants and a household a total of 12. Keeping in mind what is defined as a marijuana plant, this should cover most patient needs. A key protection in this section is the line that “a person shall not be penalized solely because of the presence of metabolites” in their system. Another protection is the reminder that a person shall not be punished in any way for hemp.
Marijuana Accessories (2829)
The possession manufacture, sale and promotion of marijuana accessories shall not be prohibited.
Lawful Operations (2830)
This is a reminder that cultivating, processing, selling, distributing and/or testing marijuana shall be legal if a person or business has the proper licensing and employees shall not be subject to criminal charges.
Indentifying Underage Persons (2831)
The Marijuana legalization movement must protect itself against the continuing allegations that our efforts imperil youth. This section is a reassurance that the new law will work to prevent underage people from getting access to marijuana. It does specify however that youthful offenders will get community service, not jail time, if they are caught smoking.
Penalties (2833)
As one could imagine, this section is the most controversial passage in the draft. On the plus side, it does set almost all penalties at misdemeanor or less (the exception is for chemical extraction of concentrates without a license). On the negative side it does not spell out the penalties for possession over one ounce or “intent to distribute.” Since these penalties are not specified here, statute would revert to existing marijuana rules (ARS13-3405) and these offenses (and any others not specified in the new language) would be considered felonies. We urgently call for correction in this section.
Marijuana Fund (2834)
This section is still underwritten and does not clearly specify where the moneys generated from marijuana will be spent. Safer AZ is recommending the Department of Health (since we want this to stay in DHS), Dept. of Ed, and law enforcement subsidies, since law enforcement will face a tremendous decrease in their budgets with impending cuts in their marijuana enforcement budgets.
This ballot measure also amends state statute regarding the illicit drug schedule (ARS13-3401) and establishes a 15% tax on marijuana sales
What’s Missing
No protections against local jail time
No provisions for expungement of existing criminal charges, current inmate resentencing option, or post-conviction relief
Language protecting home cultivators from the implied distinction between “concrete possession” and “actual possession.” An example of why this is a problem: If two people have 6 plants each and live in the same house, if the plants are co-mingled could either person be charged with possessing all 12 plants? What if a person had 12 plants at their household and was assisting someone at a separate location with their plants. Is that person now in possession of both sets of plants? This issue can be settled with some simple clarifying language.
Parenting and discrimination protections similar to, though stronger than, those in the AMMA. Currently CPS can assert an automatic “neglect finding” if a parent is found with marijuana or even declares they have a medical card. We are calling for explicit protections included that state “custody shall not be disturbed” for the legal possession and usage of marijuana by parents.
What’s Good
By and large this draft satisfies many of the concerns Safer AZ had about grow rights and small business access. DUI provisions are good; citizen grow rights include possessing ALL the marijuana produced on personal premises; protections for marijuana accessory use and promotion is a real breakthrough; as is the protection from false weights on marijuana preparations and edibles.
What’s Bad
The shift of licensing for adult use marijuana from DHS to Department of Gaming, means a delay in new license implementation until June of 2019 and that existing marijuana establishments will have to apply for entirely separate licensing to expand into the adult market. This will prohibit new investment into both the ballot measure’s campaign and the industry. Unspecified penalties for larger possession and “intent to distribute” offenses means those charges revert to existing state statutes and remain severe felonies.
Recommendation:
SEND BACK FOR REVISIONS
A) keeping licensing for all marijuana establishments in the existing DHS structure
B) excluding adult learning facilities from prohibited locations
C) explicitly including the limited license fee schedule in the fee section
D) raising allowable limits of possession outside of one’s residence to 2 & ½ ounces
E) requiring housing discrimination against cannabis be explicitly written into housing leases
F) listing penalties for larger possession (greater than one ounce) and “intent to distribute,” and having those penalties be misdemeanors. Doing business without a license should result in civil penalties, not criminal ones
G) Protections from potential unreasonable local restrictions on private consumption and transportation of marijuana
H) Remove the delay date of June 2019, allow for immediate implementation by existing dispensaries while they create their adult use establishments and let new investors have access to the market
I) Completing the spending formula for the accrued tax revenue to include: education, public health and law enforcement
We recommend the AZ cannabis community accept this draft as a reasonable opening offer on the part of MPP to show it values our concerns. MPP and members of the dispensary industry are already contributing tens of thousands of dollars to the legalization movement. Safer AZ urges the activist community to also consolidate our funds, along with our recommendations to leverage MPP to incorporate our values and concerns into their final language. To this end, Safer AZ reminds readers that we are a 527 political action committee able to take unlimited donations for or against a ballot measure and not required to disclose our donors. Investors could invest in Safer AZ to create a pool of money to support MPP’s work, without having to directly contribute to MPP; but, more importantly, we are encouraging open good-faith negotiations for the time being; and will keep you posted as developments change.
–Mikel Weisser, political director, Safer Arizona
Current Arizona Marijuana Laws: Arizona REV. STAT. § 13-3401, Arizona REV. STAT. § 13-3405, Arizona REV. STAT. § 13-702
Arizona Medical Marijuana Act of 2010: Prop 203
Situation: The Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) is a well funded national organization that sponsors and finances ballot initiatives for the legalization of cannabis for adult use. They have a track record of getting their laws passed. The MPP is the group that financed Arizona’s medical marijuana act and they are here in Arizona again drafting a legalization initiative for adult use. The problem is that they wrote the medical marijuana law that monopolized the industry for the wealthy and essentially kept home grow and patient to patient sale criminalized. This means that rich investors are getting richer ripping off very sick poor people and locking them up when they are caught trying to treat their illness on their own terms.
Safer Arizona Reviews MPP’s Current Draft of Their Legalization Initiative
One of Safer Arizona services is to represent the Arizona Cannabis Culture professionally to the MPP with your concerns and alternative solutions.
Having attempted to run our own ballot measure during the 2014 election cycle and being intimately aware of the problematic 2010 MPP AMMA Prop 203 campaign, we at Safer Arizona took a very keen interest in MPP’s progress. Our community instructed us to hold to 3 criteria: home-grow rights, basic civil rights protections & small business opportunity. Safer Arizona is lucky to have our lawyer, the nationally renowned Tom Dean, represent us on the drafting committee. Dean was able to prepare extensive notes for the committee on aligning their proposed language with existing state statute. The draft we are reviewing here is the 3rd or 4th draft depending on how one judges such things in a constantly evolving document. The document is currently referred to as Title 36, Chapter 28.2
Disclaimer: The summary below is in no way all inclusive and represents the opinion of Safer AZ staff.
Summary:
Findings (2820) The initiative will amend existing state laws regarding marijuana found in sections ARS13-3401 & 3405. The Findings section (essentially a section explaining the philosophy and intentions of the law) asserts that marijuana should be regulated like alcohol and “individuals will possess the right to produce a limited amount of marijuana for use personal use.” This support of personal grow rights is woven throughout the text of this draft. It goes on to explain the legislation’s strategy includes regulated “marijuana establishments” that can cultivate, process, distribute, test and sell marijuana.
Definitions (2821) The Definitions section has some extremely important points to note: 1) The new adult use regulatory program will be under the Department of Gaming (2821.3). This is a significant shift from the existing medical dispensary licensing program with the Department of Health and Human Services (DHS)—more on that below in the “What’s Bad” section following the summary.
2) Marijuana is defined by what it is not, rather than what it is 2821.7). The most important of these distinctions is that Marijuana is not industrial hemp. Industrial Hemp (2821.4) is defined as plants from “the genus cannabis and any part of such plant” with a THC level of less than .03%. This is significant because most all cannabis plants from the mildest indica to the most potent sativa have a THC level of less than .03% until they reach the flowering stage. This means that only mature THC bearing plants will matter on plant count. Marijuana is also NOT the weight of other ingredients in various edibles and preparations or “marijuana accessories.” Marijuana accessories include “any equipment, products, or materials of any kind” for marijuana cultivation, processing or consumption. This means an end to arrests for paraphernalia. Lastly the definitions also explain the term, “Unreasonably impracticable,” meaning that marijuana establishments will not be subjected to regulations that are so extreme as to make impossible for a reasonable businessman to conduct reasonable business.
Limitations (2822)
Of course there will still be limitations as to what a person can do with marijuana: No operating a motor vehicle or consuming inside the passenger compartment of one, unless it is in the living quarters of an RV or something similar. No distributing marijuana to anyone under 21, no marijuana in correctional facilities or schools (though we are calling for excluding adult learning facilities, such as colleges and cosmetology schools). No use of marijuana when it constitutes “negligence or professional malpractice.” Employers and landlords will still be allowed to discriminate against marijuana users in employment and housing. Of note: this section includes the disclaimer that this law will not affect the provisions or protections of the AMMA. The most important passage here is the reminder that a person will need a license to do marijuana business. This is a reminder that there are opportunities for entrepreneurs to enter the industry.
Rulemaking (2823)
Marijuana establishments will still be required to have security and surveillance equipment on site and be able to track their inventory. There will be a requirement for marijuana testing and labeling: solvents, pollutants, THC, CBD and dosage per package. The state will create a “statewide license class system” for licensing both unlimited and limited permits for cultivation, processing, distributing, selling or testing marijuana. This section explicitly states that the lower level license shall not exceed 1/3 of the cost of the unlimited licenses. Consumers will not be required to present personal information other than proof of age to purchase marijuana and no records are to be kept or reported of a person’s purchases.
Local Control (2824)
Local governments (county and city governments) will still have power to regulate marijuana in their jurisdictions, but cannot create rules that are “unreasonably impracticable.” Currently this section also includes the line that localities may enact rules restricting “consumption, production, processing, manufacturing, and transportation of marijuana.” We are calling for a change in this language to remove the word “transportation” and add the word “public” to consumption. If different jurisdictions could restrict transportation of marijuana then how could the average consumer keep track of the maze of conflicting jurisdictions on the highways?
Licensing (2826)
Marijuana establishments are still prohibited within 300 of churches and schools. Licenses will be awarded on merit, not random selection; one establishment cannot hold multiple licenses in an area if it prohibits competition. Ex-felons can apply for licenses after five years.
Licensing Fee Schedule (2826.1)
The fee for being an unlimited cultivator is $30,000 (limited license is $10,000), renewal is $10,000. There are also new and renewal license fees for processing, retail sales, distribution, and testing. Of note, it goes on to say that if the state does not create sufficient regulations and implementation in a timely manner, then applicants can apply directly to their localities for licensing.
Operating Requirements (2827)
The biggest change here is a lowering of the requirements for outdoor cultivation security. Fencing will now need to be 8 feet tall and marijuana operations must not be visible without “binoculars, aircraft or other optical aids.” As expected, all marijuana establishments will be subject to inspection.
Personal Use and Cultivation (2828)
No more civil forfeitures, consumers may purchase up to one ounce of marijuana at a time or 5 grams of concentrate (we are calling for higher limits) and transfer marijuana between friends. A person can grow 6 plants and a household a total of 12. Keeping in mind what is defined as a marijuana plant, this should cover most patient needs. A key protection in this section is the line that “a person shall not be penalized solely because of the presence of metabolites” in their system. Another protection is the reminder that a person shall not be punished in any way for hemp.
Marijuana Accessories (2829)
The possession manufacture, sale and promotion of marijuana accessories shall not be prohibited.
Lawful Operations (2830)
This is a reminder that cultivating, processing, selling, distributing and/or testing marijuana shall be legal if a person or business has the proper licensing and employees shall not be subject to criminal charges.
Indentifying Underage Persons (2831)
The Marijuana legalization movement must protect itself against the continuing allegations that our efforts imperil youth. This section is a reassurance that the new law will work to prevent underage people from getting access to marijuana. It does specify however that youthful offenders will get community service, not jail time, if they are caught smoking.
Penalties (2833)
As one could imagine, this section is the most controversial passage in the draft. On the plus side, it does set almost all penalties at misdemeanor or less (the exception is for chemical extraction of concentrates without a license). On the negative side it does not spell out the penalties for possession over one ounce or “intent to distribute.” Since these penalties are not specified here, statute would revert to existing marijuana rules (ARS13-3405) and these offenses (and any others not specified in the new language) would be considered felonies. We urgently call for correction in this section.
Marijuana Fund (2834)
This section is still underwritten and does not clearly specify where the moneys generated from marijuana will be spent. Safer AZ is recommending the Department of Health (since we want this to stay in DHS), Dept. of Ed, and law enforcement subsidies, since law enforcement will face a tremendous decrease in their budgets with impending cuts in their marijuana enforcement budgets.
This ballot measure also amends state statute regarding the illicit drug schedule (ARS13-3401) and establishes a 15% tax on marijuana sales
What’s Missing
No protections against local jail time
No provisions for expungement of existing criminal charges, current inmate resentencing option, or post-conviction relief
Language protecting home cultivators from the implied distinction between “concrete possession” and “actual possession.” An example of why this is a problem: If two people have 6 plants each and live in the same house, if the plants are co-mingled could either person be charged with possessing all 12 plants? What if a person had 12 plants at their household and was assisting someone at a separate location with their plants. Is that person now in possession of both sets of plants? This issue can be settled with some simple clarifying language.
Parenting and discrimination protections similar to, though stronger than, those in the AMMA. Currently CPS can assert an automatic “neglect finding” if a parent is found with marijuana or even declares they have a medical card. We are calling for explicit protections included that state “custody shall not be disturbed” for the legal possession and usage of marijuana by parents.
What’s Good
By and large this draft satisfies many of the concerns Safer AZ had about grow rights and small business access. DUI provisions are good; citizen grow rights include possessing ALL the marijuana produced on personal premises; protections for marijuana accessory use and promotion is a real breakthrough; as is the protection from false weights on marijuana preparations and edibles.
What’s Bad
The shift of licensing for adult use marijuana from DHS to Department of Gaming, means a delay in new license implementation until June of 2019 and that existing marijuana establishments will have to apply for entirely separate licensing to expand into the adult market. This will prohibit new investment into both the ballot measure’s campaign and the industry. Unspecified penalties for larger possession and “intent to distribute” offenses means those charges revert to existing state statutes and remain severe felonies.
Recommendation:
SEND BACK FOR REVISIONS
A) keeping licensing for all marijuana establishments in the existing DHS structure
B) excluding adult learning facilities from prohibited locations
C) explicitly including the limited license fee schedule in the fee section
D) raising allowable limits of possession outside of one’s residence to 2 & ½ ounces
E) requiring housing discrimination against cannabis be explicitly written into housing leases
F) listing penalties for larger possession (greater than one ounce) and “intent to distribute,” and having those penalties be misdemeanors. Doing business without a license should result in civil penalties, not criminal ones
G) Protections from potential unreasonable local restrictions on private consumption and transportation of marijuana
H) Remove the delay date of June 2019, allow for immediate implementation by existing dispensaries while they create their adult use establishments and let new investors have access to the market
I) Completing the spending formula for the accrued tax revenue to include: education, public health and law enforcement
We recommend the AZ cannabis community accept this draft as a reasonable opening offer on the part of MPP to show it values our concerns. MPP and members of the dispensary industry are already contributing tens of thousands of dollars to the legalization movement. Safer AZ urges the activist community to also consolidate our funds, along with our recommendations to leverage MPP to incorporate our values and concerns into their final language. To this end, Safer AZ reminds readers that we are a 527 political action committee able to take unlimited donations for or against a ballot measure and not required to disclose our donors. Investors could invest in Safer AZ to create a pool of money to support MPP’s work, without having to directly contribute to MPP; but, more importantly, we are encouraging open good-faith negotiations for the time being; and will keep you posted as developments change.
–Mikel Weisser, political director, Safer Arizona
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must be tough to be rich, needing to have your dick FIRMLY up someone else's ass to get by.
exploitation.. sounds great if your thoughts are limited to the conditions of rap music videos, great indicator that one has missed the boat on sapience.
running rings around mofos,
exploitation.. sounds great if your thoughts are limited to the conditions of rap music videos, great indicator that one has missed the boat on sapience.
running rings around mofos,
Safer Arizona
Safer Arizona
I like their style. And their priorities. We had 12 plants for med before. That's a workable #. I won't vote for anything that will not allow home grow.
Thanks Madjag for bringing it to our attention.
Safer Arizona
I like their style. And their priorities. We had 12 plants for med before. That's a workable #. I won't vote for anything that will not allow home grow.
Thanks Madjag for bringing it to our attention.
Hey Wolfhound,
I'm glad you enjoyed the update. I am interested in the professional grow licenses....glad to see there is one for unlimited (30k) as well as a more limited one (10k). I don't want to be a "commercial" grower, just a primo grower of a limited stock.
I'm glad you enjoyed the update. I am interested in the professional grow licenses....glad to see there is one for unlimited (30k) as well as a more limited one (10k). I don't want to be a "commercial" grower, just a primo grower of a limited stock.
