Okay let's talk abt Psychics.

[waveguide]

the experience of pleasure and pain are intrinsic to our existence.

nah bro, there are like medical examples of people who don't experience that shit.

if you want the answers, jsut hang around, and wired will come along and tell you how "we are wired" for that shit and all the other shit we are wired for.

see you tank faces at tienamen square!

 

[Genghis Kush]

http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...ting-above-earth/story-fnjwlcze-1227379756018


giant, invisible, moving plasma tubes, fill the skies above earth

 

[Weird]

you are all still thinking about it in the wrong aspect, I put ownership on me since I am trying to cast the vision.

Think subconscious and conscious and add para sympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. When we are born the autonomous part of our brain is in full throttle. We are driven by our brain, not the other way around. As we grow and develop we are supposed to give ownership of that drive (by design of our DNA) our frontal cortex.

NOW the core of our mind, the part that houses emotion and that autonomous part, well when people experience deep emotion, it shuts down communication with the frontal cortex.

This is not hippy science although I may not be using the medically correct terms. I learned this from a neurologist's presentation.

Above and beyond that, there are tons of environmental and genetic biases.

Anxiety is a common "noise" that many people feel even though there is no real immediate environmental cause that should necessitate it (like a real and present danger).

These biases all effect our ability to understand morality in the first place. We are, by proxy of DNA, designed to express our genes one way, but environment and other genes change the game.

We are wired to work within these constraints, and while none of us have the same capacities we do posses the same potential.

Not all of us are there yet or have the capacity here and now to achieve it, yet remove the abstract of time and all things start to become possible.

Before you question the reality of our shared morality (shared potential and capacity) let me riddle you this about love.

What is love to you?

How does it feel to you, what does it mean? what does it encompass? and how does it manifest in your mind and body?

My bet there is no universal answer but a spectrum that runs from low to high.

 

[Weird]

the question about love is important because as a cornerstone of morality you will come to find there is no simple duality in love itself but a spectrum.

 

[Genghis Kush]

Love = Oxytocin

Its purpose is as a bonding mechanism.

Pair and group bonding promotes survival and the passing on of genes.

 

[trichrider]

what are those shadows on the wall?

the light of love will illuminate all. btw, is it a particle or a wave?

mwi ( many-worlds interpretation)

Daniel Greenberger and Karl Svozil proposed that quantum theory gives a model for time travel without paradoxes.[71][72] The quantum theory observation causes possible states to 'collapse' into one measured state; hence, the past observed from the present is deterministic (it has only one possible state), but the present observed from the past has many possible states until our actions cause it to collapse into one state. Our actions will then be seen to have been inevitable.

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Time_travel#Research

However, the general theory of relativity allows various space-time deformations to take place and Kurt Gödel, the famous mathematician, managed to prove that, according to this theory, time travel into the past can in principle exist (see the "worm hole" in the picture below).

Time travel isn't explicitly made impossible by quantum mechanics either. On the contrary, one's sense of causality is deeply challenged by it.

Some science-fiction writers tried to get around the paradoxes of time travel by using the idea of parallel universes. When one would go into the past and change something, the universe would continue on a different path. But the original universe would still continue to exist in parallel. This Oedipus time traveler comes from one universe and kills his father in a different universe.

By studying this science-fiction idea with the help of quantum mechanics, three physicists, Daniel M. Greenberger and Karl Svozil on one hand and David T. Pegg on the other, have arrived to the same conclusion independently.

The idea in quantum mechanics is that all the possibilities do exist simultaneously in some abstract way, but they are not parallel, they influence each other. What is actually seen to happen is the result of a certain averaging process over all these possibilities - all the possible universes influence each other and blend together giving rise to the real universe. In this way, one can take into consideration even universes where time flows from future to the past - this is why quantum mechanics isn't explicitly and a priori anti-time-travel.

However, what Greenberger, Svozil and Pegg have found is that as time flows, the alternative universes that could have happened but haven't happened, get erased - these past alternatives cancel each other. Thus, if someone would manage somehow to go back into the past, one wouldn't see the universe as it was back then, one would see a simplified universe which is compatible solely with what has actually happened.

Mark Buchanan, from New Scientist, explains the theory using the wave picture (which is maybe clearer in this case): "The constraint arises from a quantum object's ability to behave like a wave. Quantum objects split their existence into multiple component waves, each following a distinct path through space-time. Ultimately, an object is usually most likely to end up in places where its component waves recombine, or 'interfere', constructively, with the peaks and troughs of the waves lined up, say. The object is unlikely to be in places where the components interfere destructively, and cancel each other out. Quantum theory allows time travel because nothing prevents the waves from going back in time. When Greenberger and Svozil analysed what happens when these component waves flow into the past, they found that the paradoxes implied by Einstein's equations never arise. Waves that travel back in time interfere destructively, thus preventing anything from happening differently from that which has already taken place."

http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-time-travel-paradox-was-solved-16726.shtml


Claims of time travel[edit]

• Chronovisor
• Billy Meier
• Moberly-Jourdain incident
• Montauk Project
• Philadelphia Experiment
• Time slip
• Time travel urban legends
• John Titor

 

[waveguide]

what are those shadows on the wall?

the light of love will illuminate all.

light or lucifer, beloved by masons, is a semantic for knowledge.


buddhism, taoism, jainism, for example, talk about life as illusion, and reducing certainty. the way i articulate this, "where there is certainty, consideration is absent".

its very simple - real consideration, real cogency, real awareness requires uncertainty, or NOT knowing. "darkness, absence of light".

on the other hand, evil (or mans callous acts) is driven by certainty, or "knowing". not by uncertainty and consideration.


so, i hope you can see what kinds of special people these "lovers of knowledge" telling you they're your friends are here

 

[waveguide]

and of course, even plato's well known allegory of the cave, which trichrider's quote mocks,

was intended to promote questioning of what we see before us, not certainty of it.

 

[trichrider]

btw, is it a particle or a wave?

the shadows were allegorical to the artifacts indicating a lack of knowledge, not some snide remark about assumptions.

the remark about illumination was sarcasm tho' as it relates love as the shadows themselves and how seldom we recognize it.

thanks for your superior and often florid attenuation of my intent.

 

[mrcreosote]

Jeez
I hate when they hot-box a whole thread.

Friggin bunch of stoners.

 

[trichrider]

Jeez
I hate when they hot-box a whole thread.

Friggin bunch of stoners.

see what the shadows are?....watch them dance mysterious till the reckoning of loves illumination inspires their departure.

don't bogart that thought, stoner! bring to it a certain electromagnetic frequency to modulate its visibility and examine its
disparate spectrum.

just friggin with yas, cuz ima stoner too.

infinite probabilities abound.

 

[Genghis Kush]

light or lucifer, beloved by masons, is a semantic for knowledge.


buddhism, taoism, jainism, for example, talk about life as illusion, and reducing certainty. the way i articulate this, "where there is certainty, consideration is absent".

its very simple - real consideration, real cogency, real awareness requires uncertainty, or NOT knowing. "darkness, absence of light".

on the other hand, evil (or mans callous acts) is driven by certainty, or "knowing". not by uncertainty and consideration.


so, i hope you can see what kinds of special people these "lovers of knowledge" telling you they're your friends are here

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."
--Lao Tzu. Tao Te Ching

 

[stoned-trout]

I predict their all nuts....yeehaw..

 

[Genghis Kush]

we are wired for morality as we are wired to believe.


They are part of the evolutionary process, one which science is working on right now, trying to discover more. A paper was recently put out high lighting the evolution of morality in monkeys.

The devil & evil can best be attributed to our reptile core, the part of our brain that is the same as the animals around us.

When someone lets raw emotion take over and they lose control and kill someone, that is "the devil" at work.

Our frontal cortex would be the mind of God, where our consciousness lie.

People do have the potential to control former with the later, a practice that is nurtured by certain philosophies.

You must, and because it comes at some lever of ease (I will assume) that you feel everyone has the same capacity for control.

Unfortunately it does not work that way.

Much of the use of the brain relies on catalysts, but internal and external, to develop these skills, and further more they can be denigrated by a dysfunctional biology.

PTSD is an example of where the body fires off chemicals causing a reaction that is not by choice but very real and very powerful.

The war for good and evil is fought in our heads, individually, at all times.

Some people have it easier than others.

Some have control and choose outright, others not so much.

anxiety arises from being thrown into an existence that appears godless and void of meaning or purpose. Humans spend almost all of their time avoiding this.

"When we are in the grip of this anxiety, we often abandoned ourselves to what Heidegger calls Das Man (“the they”) or the crowd. It is easy to get lost in the crowd when we are face to face with the anxiety. Often, when a person is in denial of this rudimentary anxiety, it is the crowd that chooses the person’s life projects, and “they” – not the person – will narrate the person’s fragmented life-story and define the meaning of the person’s life."

Love or Oxytocin drives us toward the group, and calms our anxiety.

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We are wired to create codes of morality, yet the structure or content of that moral code is largely shaped by the norms and mores of the culture that the individual lives in.



Aloha Nui Loa

 

[stoned-trout]

ha ha ... yeehaw... i aint buying what your selling and ooh ya..

 

[trichrider]

Deep-Space Sugars May Reveal Clues About Origins of Life

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/...aceSugarsMayRevealCluesAboutOriginsofLife.pdf

 

[CannaBrix]

We had a theory on a trip last night that anxiety is a form of the body's discontent. That our social train tracks keep us on a path to tell us what we need.

Such as a person in the morning has no appetite, but they 'know' they should eat. So they do eat, and the body never wanted that food in the first place. They have fed (no pun intended) into the culture, the mind is happy on its tracks, but the body is discontent, leaving an uneasy feeling.

"Infinite probabilities abound" -said most recently by Trichrider

 

[Genghis Kush]

anxiety is indeed a form of the bodies discontent, when stimulated by environmental factors.

there is a another form anxiety, that is ever present and persistent in all people.
It is born out of our inability to understand our existence.

We are thrown into existence(life) without any obvious purpose.
We feel abandoned and forsaken.

This is the anxiety that caused man to invent God and stories to live by(religion).
It causes people to drink and take drugs and stay in relationships that are damaging.
Its the reason that solitary confinement is worse than being with a bunch of murders in prison.
Alone, without distraction, we are faced with the ultimate truth.
And, that is, we can't know anything for sure about our existence.
One must either take a leap of faith and believe in a fairy tale or accept the nausea of living a godless, meaningless, purposeless existence that will one day end in infinite oblivion.

This anxiety is one of the defining aspects of being human.



Aloha Nui Loa

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[mr.brunch]

** you must spread some reputation around...blah..**
+rep , well put.

 

[CannaBrix]

anxiety is indeed a form of the bodies discontent, when stimulated by environmental factors.

there is a another form anxiety, that is ever present and persistent in all people.
It is born out of our inability to understand our existence.

We are thrown into existence(life) without any obvious purpose.
We feel abandoned and forsaken.

This is the anxiety that caused man to invent God and stories to live by(religion).
It causes people to drink and take drugs and stay in relationships that are damaging.
Its the reason that solitary confinement is worse than being with a bunch of murders in prison.
Alone, without distraction, we are faced with the ultimate truth.
And, that is, we can't know anything for sure about our existence.
One must either take a leap of faith and believe in a fairy tale or accept the nausea of living a godless, meaningless, purposeless existence that will one day end in infinite oblivion.

This anxiety is one of the defining aspects of being human.



Aloha Nui Loa

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I believe your only two options are far limited, far unknown, and so far from perception, that to say such a thing with such certainty is inevitably not the [only] truth.

The rest of your post is spot on with my current philosophies. Good words.