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OG Kush heritage?

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Big Sur

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Chem Dog and OG Kush

Chem Dog and OG Kush

My research on this from west coast, Colorado and New York growers of these strains is this (much of the history is spoken about and still available on YouTube by most of the actual growers involved) is that it was Pakistani:

Dog Bud (not to be confused with God Bud) was a cut taken from the Emerald Triangle in NorCal and grown in Crested Butte area of Colorado where it was held closely by a few growers there. Bags of Dog Bud were sold for $500 an oz at the now infamous Grateful Dead concert at Deer Creek in 1991 by a guy maned Joe to a guy later dubbed Chem, who was from NYC. He bought one oz there and ordered and later received 2 more oz's in NY. In one of those later those bags were 13 viable S1 seeds. He planted 4 the first year, and from that sprang 3 females and one male. The male was pulled (he later regretted doing that). The best one was called Chem Dog after the parent, Dog Bud and the smell, (later the name morphed into Chem Dawg) and is now commonly known as ChemDawg'91 and is the main cut found out there now. The two other females are known as ChemDawgA and ChenDawgB. Chemdog/dawg became better known in the NYC area as Diesel, Sour Diesel and NYC Diesel. Chem himself confirmed that. It was called Diesel because of the chemical diesel smell to it.

Later Chem and his GF planted 3 more of the seeds, and they were labeled C, D, and E. Supposedly E did not germinate at all and C was crap. D turned out to be OK. Then fast forward further to 2006 when Chem met up with Joe again and Chem gave him four of the remaining six seeds. Joe germinated the seeds, and only one was noteworthy, and it became known as the Reunion Strain. Supposedly there are two of the thirteen original seeds left in Chem’s stash.

Now the story diverges. One story is that the Chem Dog strain made its way to Florida where it became known as Triangle Kush, and OG Kush was crossed. Out here in the west the story is this which I believe, given the YouTube testimonies and all the California dominant strain names for it:

Chem Dog cuts made their way back to the west from NYC. It is still fairly common out here still as a ChemDawg clone-only medical strain. A flowering cut of it was crossed in Grass Valley, CA with a Lemon Thai x Hindu Kush (Pakistani) male. The results of that was OG Kush. After a time that grower married a woman from NZ and he moved there with her. He left his clones with a few people in California, and from there (Salinas and Downey) more cuts were distributed around California. They also made their way out to other states. The OG in the name is attributed to OverGrow.com, where member Ghost received one cut from member OrgnKid. OverGrow was a web site that is now defunct, but was dedicated to growing weed in the 1990s. The cuts made their way around California and to LA where they became known as over a dozen different names, and OG became known as Ocean Grown. In Sacramento the cuts were known as Sac1, Sac2, and Sac3. There as also a Tahoe cut and the Lost Coast (the name for the Mendocino and Humboldt Co coast) cut. It is debatable if the Triangle Kush was attributed to the Florida Triangle (Miami, Jacksonville and Tampa), or the Emerald Triangle in NorCal. I believe that all of these names are for the same genetics, of which I have grown several myself, including Ghost, Triangle Kush and SFV Kush. Here is a list of the names of the same OG Kush strain as it moved around the country:

Triangle Kush
Tripple OG/XXX OG
Ghost, Ghost OG, Ghost OG Kush
OG Kush
Super OG Kush
SFV OG/San Fernando Valley, SFV OG Kush
Larry, Larry OG
Diablo, El Diablo
Raskal's OG
HA OG/Hell's Angles
Fire, Fire OG
Abusive
818
SAC #1,#2, & #3
Poison OG
Private Reserve OG
Purple OG Kush
Tahoe OG, Tahoe OG Kush
Lost Coast OG
True OG
Kosher Kush

Supposedly the best cuts of OG Kush are Tahoe and Ghost. I grew the Ghost cut last winter indoors, and I made many clones of it that I grew outdoors this summer. It has rather different pheno characteristics growing indoors and out, and has a full range of colors to it in the fall (gold, purple, bronze, red, and yellow). It finishes outdoors here on the 45th parallel later than is typically advertised (mid October).
 

Tynehead Tom

Well-known member
Is that when the name showed up, or the plant? Because most of the "OG" I have seen passed around as flowers or cuttings in BC, is not OG at all but more likely a master/bubba related hybrid form. I'm not saying it's not here somewhere at this point, but I doubt very few BC growers or smokers could properly identify a true OG form.

Ive seen literally tons of BC Kush and old School HP in BC, and the market-archetype of those is nothing OG-like at all. I personally don't think the Lizard smelled anything like a real OG, much more bland and less in your face. However you can't see what is going on in every garden, just base your opinions on what you see in the marketplace, but based on that opinion OG is still a rarity in BC and I had no sight of large amounts of OG in BC, despite the bags named OG.



I guess on this site we gotta be crystal clear when we type shit hehehe. I have no idea and am not pretending to know if the OG Kush I'm familiar with from the past (in BC Canada) is or was the "real deal" OG. I was referring to when I recall the name first showing up, and that is all. To me , it's all kinda silly and pointless to argue seeing as I don't take it as seriously as some folks seem to. Though I do enjoy learning about the origins of stuff as much as the next guy.
I first saw OG Kush growing in a 20,000 watt grow in a commercial op in ladner, BC. That would have been in the winter of 2000, would have been right after salmon fishin season so say December? Authentic? who knows but wayyyyyy earlier than any OG or Bubba lines feeding street level BC starting say 10 years ago when the names began becoming more common. These days names are used so loosely, it's hard to follow.
 

Kush_Kloud

Active member
This story sounds like a combination of Kailua Kids and Organ Kids. Very well typed though. And stills points to the obvious, that OG Kush is the ((Old World Paki Kush x lemon thai) x Chemdog 91' clone). I believe it is mainly the famous Chemdog 91' that gave the OG Kush it's potency and calyx size. The Old World Paki Kush/Lemon Thai male added limonene, increased calyx to leaf ratio, more stretch, some sativa like effects and extra trichome coverage to the already potent Chemdog 91' clone.

KK
 

JetLife175

Well-known member
Veteran
Funny but the dog bud came from camas valley Oregon. It's been verified by the Chem crew themselves.

And for those wondering. The seeds that produced OG came out of a bag known as dreadnaught in FL.
 

mack 10

Resin Herder
Veteran
Dreadnought? Is that the varietal name of the bud
Josh d scored in miami? (that came from Florida?)

Dogbud, Camas Valley hey? I know they mentioned Washington aa poss source.

Pnw had some killer indicas back in the 80's, 90's and 00's.
Hope they are still alive under one name or another.
 

resin_lung

I cough up honey oil
Veteran
2004 I was in BC. Sativa Sisters bed & breakfast(not my idea). 1/2 oz JoshD's OG. It had everybody that tried it sweating. met up with a grower who was supposed to be connected with Dr.Atomic? Got him to puke! He said he had heard of it, but only just recently. Left what remained with him.

1st time in BC. The people were so nice and friendly it scared me! The whole place did! The streets were SO clean. When walking down the street, people walking in opposite direction, across (OTHER SIDE) the street would wave a say hi? I'd look around to see who they were fkn waving at and it was always me! Haha I'd wave back not totally sure I wasn't on candid camera or some thing. It was trippy. But then I saw that one spot were they seemed to keep EVERY crackhead in Canada! Literally. They were all penned up like an attraction at a ZOO! I wanted to just sit there and observe the insanity! GF was not into it (OF COURSE) so only got to check it out for a min! SHE RUINS EVERYTHING!
 

Big Sur

Member
Funny but the dog bud came from camas valley Oregon. It's been verified by the Chem crew themselves.

And for those wondering. The seeds that produced OG came out of a bag known as dreadnaught in FL.

Verified? The source of Dog Bud is as nebulous as the history and names for ChemDog/Diesel. Chem would have had second tier knowledge. Joe Brand said he got the Dog Bud weed from Colorado where it was grown, and that it originated from the OR/CA border area. Camas Valley is well north of the border. Having lived in Southern Oregon just north of Camas Valley myself for many years and my experience and knowledge of Humboldt and Mendocino growing operations, I believe it came from NorCal.

As for Florida being the source of anything, that just does not add up in my research. Yes, there were strains that went there and came from there, but... it is far more likely that OG Kushie is a California strain, and that Dog Bud originally came from NorCal. OG Kush was and is a SoCal sensation. That place was saturated with it.

OG Kush and Chem Dog stories are so variable and nebulous, like the source of Skunk #1. We will know for sure from genetic testing being done on it now though. There seem to be a lot of S1 and odd crosses out there as people seeded these out. Chem D and others are still around. Some claim that OG Kush tends to herm, but I have never had that happen, in... I dunno, 20 or 30 plants I have flowered out of it? I have grown it indoors and out, stressed it, re-vegged it, multi-cropped it, and I never had a male flower pop on me. It has such a highly varied pheno as well, even clones that I cloned myself show different forms, mainly due to variable growing conditions. The fall sun leaves can show really odd colors, from bronze to yellow to purple to red, or all of them at once.
 
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Big Sur

Member
By Kailua kid from Sierra Seeds:

In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to Mike(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 Mike sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. Mike sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. Mike sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.

 

Hrpuffnkush

Golden Coast
Veteran
Verified? The source of Dog Bud is as nebulous as the history and names for ChemDog/Diesel. Chem would have had second tier knowledge. Joe Brand said he got the Dog Bud weed from Colorado where it was grown, and that it originated from the OR/CA border area. Camas Valley is well north of the border. Having lived in Southern Oregon just north of Camas Valley myself for many years and my experience and knowledge of Humboldt and Mendocino growing operations, I believe it came from NorCal.

As for Florida being the source of anything, that just does not add up in my research. Yes, there were strains that went there and came from there, but... it is far more likely that OG Kushie is a California strain, and that Dog Bud originally came from NorCal. OG Kush was and is a SoCal sensation. That place was saturated with it.

OG Kush and Chem Dog stories are so variable and nebulous, like the source of Skunk #1. We will know for sure from genetic testing being done on it now though. There seem to be a lot of S1 and odd crosses out there as people seeded these out. Chem D and others are still around. Some claim that OG Kush tends to herm, but I have never had that happen, in... I dunno, 20 or 30 plants I have flowered out of it? I have grown it indoors and out, stressed it, re-vegged it, multi-cropped it, and I never had a male flower pop on me. It has such a highly varied pheno as well, even clones that I cloned myself show different forms, mainly due to variable growing conditions. The fall sun leaves can show really odd colors, from bronze to yellow to purple to red, or all of them at once.


I'm feeling ya on the nor cali origins as well ....
chems will make pods on lower branches.
OG's rarely make pods like chems , but they will make stage 5 later flower bananas on tops , i.e. I think that's the source of the original other og's , and from guys like elite , orgnkid , kaptK, raskal and few others putting out beans before most even knew what chem or OG was
 

Hrpuffnkush

Golden Coast
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Happy Times

Well-known member
just had a thought...

"A flowering cut of it was crossed in Grass Valley, CA with a Lemon Thai x Hindu Kush (Pakistani) male. The results of that was OG Kush."

so what if the different seeds that came from this turned out to be the different names/phenos we now know? I wonder who it was that made that cross...

I was wondering the saaaame thing
 

ipot

Active member
after reading big surs last post, I totally agree that larry is the original OG cut.

I've grown it out with more than 3 crosses and bought/smoked it in 4 different states from multiple growers & it always proved to be one of the better and loudest OG's on the market.

[YOUTUBEIF]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Sm6krDN4M[/YOUTUBEIF]
 

webguy

Active member
I think you gotta remove everything except the end numbers after the = sign for the video to work.
 

resin_lung

I cough up honey oil
Veteran
i know that WAY back when this was started it was more about the origins,as in genetics, which without some solid DNA work, it was all gonna be pure speculation. Just like it is today. It looks like this thread morphed into the type of thread that we've all seen countless times before. Totally fine with me as I still find it interesting. However, I thought the consensus was that the plant, that at first was just called Kush came to SoCal from Florida. Brought by Bubba to his friend joshD who lived in the SFV. OG added only after the fakes started showing up. Also thought that these ocean grown, grass valley stories were debunked? Is this still the case? Maybe there are two conversations happening, for the last few pages it seem anyway. Like the people that are still making posts about those stories I thought were debunked aren't being corrected by anyone any longer? I don't blame anyone for not having the patients(spelling) to set the record straight for the thousandth time it's just that it makes me think that all those stories are gaining credibility. I'm guilty of not doing anything about it either just wondering if that's what's going on.

I'm very interested in finding out more about the history prior to bubba bringing from Florida. Because that is fact! 100%. Anything before that is what remains to be figured out.

Was the seed it came from popped in Hawaii, NorCal, Colorado, Oregon or Florida? Was it bred or bagseed? What the bud the bagseed came from was called? Who found it? ChemDog or......? These are questions that are still debatable in my mind.

I'm aware that me calling joshD's story fact don't mean shit. I'm not sure what it would take prove that I'm not just somebody with an opinion on the subject. I'm certain I won't be making any calls to the people that can vouche for me and give my opinion some weight. Beside not wanting to deal with those who won't change their minds, no matter who or what is presented, the people who can vouche for my opinion are the same who have vouched for JoshD in the first place! I'm also not willing to be clowned for caring what a bunch of computer nerds on some dungeons and dragons website think.(to them anyone online is a nerd and everything online is dungeons and spdragons)hahaha

All I will say is that all the names like "soul assassins crew" or "real OGKush crew" are names made up by stoners on websites like this one. There was never a "crew" that called themselves anything like that. If there was, then wheres my fucking jacket! lol because if there was a crew that would have gone by that those titles it was the "crew" I was a part of. We were loosely based out of GranadaHills but had houses all over the valley including more than a few in Beverly Hills and all along mullholland dr. The Hollywood hills was overrun with our houses. We got JoshD's cut at the exact moment that BReal got it. He got his dope from the "crew" I was a part of. There are pictures in high times of B with members of the "crew". Clear as day. In fact those pictures didn't go over too smoothly with all the homies. We weren't all in it for fame, if you catch my drift.

There may also have been more than one crew that supplied B, or that got the cut when B did. If there was/is others, I guarantee I know/knew members of those other crews or some of them know/knew members of mine.

If you were and need/want more info PM me. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this. Don't bother if your just curious about it all. Post those questions or doubts in this thread instead.

I've always wondered if any of the motherfuckers I was fortunate enough to run with ever figured out how to type and became members of this site? So far I don't believe they have. Although I've read posts about GranadaHills and how dank the dope that came out of there was. So I'm sure some weren't too far removed or were homies with the dudes I'm talking about.

One more thing, just to head off all who would likely be questioning how it is I can expect to know all that goes on in the valley. I went to 11 of the 17 high schools in the valley at the time. Weed was already ALL I gave a shit about, beginning in 8th grade when I first stood curbside slanging nickel bags. Way before I started my tour of the different high schools in the valley. A tour I took by choice. I was on a mission. I gained nothing from school but connections. I spent years networking! Those connections are still strong even though it's been 8 years, more or less since I left the "game".

When wholesale finally dropped from $7,000 a lbs when I crewed up to just $3,500 years later, I was out! I went on to commit more crime:biggrin: but I would never grow weed with the intent to sell it again!

Edit: shishkaboy!! Nice post. Haven't checked it out yet so can't say anything about it but, scratch the part of my post about "until DNA and speculation" or whatever I was babbling about!

About the homies in high times, If it wasn't for them, one in particularly, there wouldn't have been a "crew". Without that cut, WHEN WE GOT THAT CUT..... so don't think they gave too much of a fuck who approved of their "friendship" with B.

I hope I didn't drysnitch.... too much anyway!?!?! FUK IT! I'll just tell them I thought it was "legal"nSHIT!!! Hahaha
 
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resin_lung

I cough up honey oil
Veteran
i know that WAY back when this was started it was more about the origins,as in genetics, which without some solid DNA work, it was all gonna be pure speculation. Just like it is today. It looks like this thread morphed into the type of thread that we've all seen countless times before. Totally fine with me as I still find it interesting. However, I thought the consensus was that the plant, that at first was just called Kush came to SoCal from Florida. Brought by Bubba to his friend joshD who lived in the SFV. OG added only after the fakes started showing up. Also thought that these ocean grown, grass valley stories were debunked? Is this still the case? Maybe there are two conversations happening, for the last few pages it seem anyway. Like the people that are still making posts about those stories I thought were debunked aren't being corrected by anyone any longer? I don't blame anyone for not having the patients(spelling) to set the record straight for the thousandth time it's just that it makes me think that all those stories are gaining credibility. I'm guilty of not doing anything about it either just wondering if that's what's going on.

I'm very interested in finding out more about the history prior to bubba bringing from Florida. Because that is fact! 100%. Anything before that is what remains to be figured out.

Was the seed it came from popped in Hawaii, NorCal, Colorado, Oregon or Florida? Was it bred or bagseed? What the bud the bagseed came from was called? Who found it? ChemDog or......? These are questions that are still debatable in my mind.

I'm aware that me calling joshD's story fact don't mean shit. I'm not sure what it would take prove that I'm not just somebody with an opinion on the subject. I'm certain I won't be making any calls to the people that can vouche for me and give my opinion some weight. Beside not wanting to deal with those who won't change their minds, no matter who or what is presented, the people who can vouche for my opinion are the same who have vouched for JoshD in the first place! I'm also not willing to be clowned for caring what a bunch of computer nerds on some dungeons and dragons website think.(to them anyone online is a nerd and everything online is dungeons and spdragons)hahaha

All I will say is that all the names like "soul assassins crew" or "real OGKush crew" are names made up by stoners on websites like this one. There was never a "crew" that called themselves anything like that. If there was, then wheres my fucking jacket! lol because if there was a crew that would have gone by that those titles it was the "crew" I was a part of. We were loosely based out of GranadaHills but had houses all over the valley including more than a few in Beverly Hills and all along mullholland dr. The Hollywood hills was overrun with our houses. We got JoshD's cut at the exact moment that BReal got it. He got his dope from the "crew" I was a part of. There are pictures in high times of B with members of the "crew". Clear as day. In fact those pictures didn't go over too smoothly with all the homies. We weren't all in it for fame, if you catch my drift.

There may also have been more than one crew that supplied B, or that got the cut when B did. If there was/is others, I guarantee I know/knew members of those other crews or some of them know/knew members of mine.

If you were and need/want more info PM me. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this. Don't bother if your just curious about it all. Post those questions or doubts in this thread instead.

I've always wondered if any of the motherfuckers I was fortunate enough to run with ever figured out how to type and became members of this site? So far I don't believe they have. Although I've read posts about GranadaHills and how dank the dope that came out of there was. So I'm sure some weren't too far removed or were homies with the dudes I'm talking about.

One more thing, just to head off all who would likely be questioning how it is I can expect to know all that goes on in the valley. I went to 11 of the 17 high schools in the valley at the time. Weed was already ALL I gave a shit about, beginning in 8th grade when I first stood curbside slanging nickel bags. Way before I started my tour of the different high schools in the valley. A tour I took by choice. I was on a mission. I gained nothing from school but connections. I spent years networking! Those connections are still strong even though it's been 8 years, more or less since I left the "game".

When wholesale finally dropped from $7,000 a lbs when I crewed up to just $3,500 years later, I was out! I went on to commit more crime:biggrin: but I would never grow weed with the intent to sell it again!

Edit: shishkaboy!! Nice post. Haven't checked it out yet so can't say anything about it but, scratch the part of my post about "until DNA and speculation" or whatever I was babbling about!

About the homies in high times, If it wasn't for them, one in particularly, there wouldn't have been a "crew". Without that cut, WHEN WE GOT THAT CUT..... so don't think they gave too much of a fuck who approved of their "friendship" with B.

I hope I didn't drysnitch.... too much anyway!?!?! FUK IT! I'll just tell them I thought it was "legal"nSHIT!!! Hahaha

Quoting myself cause this is a little more than an EDIT.

I don't mean to suggest that everything we grew was for homeboy. Most of the "crew" had nothing to do with anything other than growing what they were told to grow. The way they were told to grow it. The guys on top sent theirs out of state, Atlanta and other far off places where rappers were rumored to chill!lol all except for one. He was homeboys shadow for a min. Not talkin shit but, lets just say that this motherfucker was DOWN for Rap. He took his to his favorite rapper in the world at least every other hit.

This is also how I know that if there were more than one "crew" then homeboy kept it from my homie, the super fan! Haha and he would have had to work hard at it cause like I say, this cat liked rap! lol
 

JetLife175

Well-known member
Veteran
Verified? The source of Dog Bud is as nebulous as the history and names for ChemDog/Diesel. Chem would have had second tier knowledge. Joe Brand said he got the Dog Bud weed from Colorado where it was grown, and that it originated from the OR/CA border area. Camas Valley is well north of the border. Having lived in Southern Oregon just north of Camas Valley myself for many years and my experience and knowledge of Humboldt and Mendocino growing operations, I believe it came from NorCal.

As for Florida being the source of anything, that just does not add up in my research. Yes, there were strains that went there and came from there, but... it is far more likely that OG Kushie is a California strain, and that Dog Bud originally came from NorCal. OG Kush was and is a SoCal sensation. That place was saturated with it.

OG Kush and Chem Dog stories are so variable and nebulous, like the source of Skunk #1. We will know for sure from genetic testing being done on it now though. There seem to be a lot of S1 and odd crosses out there as people seeded these out. Chem D and others are still around. Some claim that OG Kush tends to herm, but I have never had that happen, in... I dunno, 20 or 30 plants I have flowered out of it? I have grown it indoors and out, stressed it, re-vegged it, multi-cropped it, and I never had a male flower pop on me. It has such a highly varied pheno as well, even clones that I cloned myself show different forms, mainly due to variable growing conditions. The fall sun leaves can show really odd colors, from bronze to yellow to purple to red, or all of them at once.

To go a little more in depth. Pbud and JoeB have revealed that the source for the dog bud was out of camas valley. I have no stake slinging bullshit around. Came from the horses mouth.
 
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HemperorsKnight

i know that WAY back when this was started it was more about the origins,as in genetics, which without some solid DNA work, it was all gonna be pure speculation. Just like it is today. It looks like this thread morphed into the type of thread that we've all seen countless times before. Totally fine with me as I still find it interesting. However, I thought the consensus was that the plant, that at first was just called Kush came to SoCal from Florida. Brought by Bubba to his friend joshD who lived in the SFV. OG added only after the fakes started showing up. Also thought that these ocean grown, grass valley stories were debunked? Is this still the case? Maybe there are two conversations happening, for the last few pages it seem anyway. Like the people that are still making posts about those stories I thought were debunked aren't being corrected by anyone any longer? I don't blame anyone for not having the patients(spelling) to set the record straight for the thousandth time it's just that it makes me think that all those stories are gaining credibility. I'm guilty of not doing anything about it either just wondering if that's what's going on.

I'm very interested in finding out more about the history prior to bubba bringing from Florida. Because that is fact! 100%. Anything before that is what remains to be figured out.

Was the seed it came from popped in Hawaii, NorCal, Colorado, Oregon or Florida? Was it bred or bagseed? What the bud the bagseed came from was called? Who found it? ChemDog or......? These are questions that are still debatable in my mind.

I'm aware that me calling joshD's story fact don't mean shit. I'm not sure what it would take prove that I'm not just somebody with an opinion on the subject. I'm certain I won't be making any calls to the people that can vouche for me and give my opinion some weight. Beside not wanting to deal with those who won't change their minds, no matter who or what is presented, the people who can vouche for my opinion are the same who have vouched for JoshD in the first place! I'm also not willing to be clowned for caring what a bunch of computer nerds on some dungeons and dragons website think.(to them anyone online is a nerd and everything online is dungeons and spdragons)hahaha

All I will say is that all the names like "soul assassins crew" or "real OGKush crew" are names made up by stoners on websites like this one. There was never a "crew" that called themselves anything like that. If there was, then wheres my fucking jacket! lol because if there was a crew that would have gone by that those titles it was the "crew" I was a part of. We were loosely based out of GranadaHills but had houses all over the valley including more than a few in Beverly Hills and all along mullholland dr. The Hollywood hills was overrun with our houses. We got JoshD's cut at the exact moment that BReal got it. He got his dope from the "crew" I was a part of. There are pictures in high times of B with members of the "crew". Clear as day. In fact those pictures didn't go over too smoothly with all the homies. We weren't all in it for fame, if you catch my drift.

There may also have been more than one crew that supplied B, or that got the cut when B did. If there was/is others, I guarantee I know/knew members of those other crews or some of them know/knew members of mine.

If you were and need/want more info PM me. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this. Don't bother if your just curious about it all. Post those questions or doubts in this thread instead.

I've always wondered if any of the motherfuckers I was fortunate enough to run with ever figured out how to type and became members of this site? So far I don't believe they have. Although I've read posts about GranadaHills and how dank the dope that came out of there was. So I'm sure some weren't too far removed or were homies with the dudes I'm talking about.

One more thing, just to head off all who would likely be questioning how it is I can expect to know all that goes on in the valley. I went to 11 of the 17 high schools in the valley at the time. Weed was already ALL I gave a shit about, beginning in 8th grade when I first stood curbside slanging nickel bags. Way before I started my tour of the different high schools in the valley. A tour I took by choice. I was on a mission. I gained nothing from school but connections. I spent years networking! Those connections are still strong even though it's been 8 years, more or less since I left the "game".

When wholesale finally dropped from $7,000 a lbs when I crewed up to just $3,500 years later, I was out! I went on to commit more crime:biggrin: but I would never grow weed with the intent to sell it again!

Edit: shishkaboy!! Nice post. Haven't checked it out yet so can't say anything about it but, scratch the part of my post about "until DNA and speculation" or whatever I was babbling about!

About the homies in high times, If it wasn't for them, one in particularly, there wouldn't have been a "crew". Without that cut, WHEN WE GOT THAT CUT..... so don't think they gave too much of a fuck who approved of their "friendship" with B.

I hope I didn't drysnitch.... too much anyway!?!?! FUK IT! I'll just tell them I thought it was "legal"nSHIT!!! Hahaha

I dont believe that myth
Matt riot agrees with that too and that man is very very very very very knowledgeable when it comes to origins of legendary lines....
"Bubba" like "Josh D" are imo cate tryna take the glory and fame from lines that aren't there's like the "cookie fam" on the gsc forum which stemmed from cherry pie kush bagseeds
I read that article first on high crimes on the bubba bullshit story then on skunk with the bs og kush story.



Joesy whales is legitimately the man responsible for gg4
St george is responsible for the gsc
Chemdog pbud and his boys for the chem lines we have today
Etc etc... Og kush is still an enigma and same with bubba
I would believe the story about the ocean grown or overgrown before i believe the story on josh d and them landrace seeds collected by his father it just did not make sense...
Maybe if that project OGenome comes back with fruits to the enigma then we will have a better idea on the genetic makeup which is the most important part of the strain imo other than that maybe one day we as the community can piece together the truth.............. Or maybe we can get lucky and Mr Riot will do the work on comparing all those og lines and see what he finds out
That imo would be a better route rather than reading some shit on a mag that has a half assed story not tryna sound like a troll or nothing just do not agree with the Josh D or Bubba guy bs
Every OG i smoked that came from the legit cut has been straight lemon pinesol with tones of fuel now that bs story has nothing mentioning any relation to Chemdog bein a potential parent to OG like how Chemdog D is a parent of Sour Diesel
 
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