OG Kush heritage?

[rykus]

Look how the bubba has sharp seration on the leaves and the Chem is more round, colour is very different as well and the Chem family seems dominant too me in both these traits...

The only real answers are either in DNA or mass seed sprouts of s1 and Bx generations to identify rececieve and dominant traits as clues.... Either way I would guess the bubba came out of some older land race Afgani, and the Chem line IMO came out of skunk lines... Way greasier and darker green... Not from as much arid genetics IMO... OG to me has so much a different growth structure I find it odd that it gets associated at all with either Chem or bubba... Very different again, but similar to the champagne clone that was another bc biker variety.... IMO the og and lizard hp as it was called in BC probably where the more potent sister or a hermy seed out of that line IMHO/FWIW...

 

[Kush_Kloud]

There is going to be some differences when other genetics are added in. It won't be purely Chemdog dominated genetically and phenotypically. But I sure do see Chemdog in the West Coast Dog and in the OG Kush. The SFV OG Kush is said to be slightly lemon Thai dominate while the Larry OG Kush the Original OG is said to be slightly Paki Kush dominate. I had to put Josh D's OG Kush up there for he said his clone is the Original OG. But as for the Bubba Kushes the one that seems the most like West Coast Dog is the pre-98' Bubba clone from Swerve. Remember bubba isn't going to look too much like Chemdog 91' for it is a hybrid of hybrids. Nonetheless I see the OG Kush and West Coast Dog influence in it. Especially in the pre-98' Bubba Kush clone. Also you have to take into account the differences in the growing environment, that influences the phenotypic expression. Also remember that all of these strains came from a seed. So this supports the part of Kailua Kid's story, when he mentioned different OG Kush pheno's one being the Larry OG the Original clone and the seed that was grown out in the SFV, this one being more lemon Thai dominate. And also like wise with the Bubba Kush it was a cross that brought about more seeds than one so this explain to some degree the difference between the pre-98' and the Katsu Bubba, and I'm not so sure if the Bubba Kush from Ogstradamus is the real deal or not.

 

[CARE giver]

Question for everyone versed in og. I've had brotherhood OG and super lemon og and I found them both to be very relaxing with zerooo anxiety factor. Is this true for all OGs and if so could anyone recommend one because brotherhood and super lemon og aren't available.

 

[Chimera]

IMO the og and lizard hp as it was called in BC probably where the more potent sister or a hermy seed out of that line IMHO/FWIW...

zero chance of that, no way OG and the HP / Champagne lines are related, totally different plants in terms of growth, yield, colour, stature, scent, etc.

Even Bubba is a stretch away from real "OG". What you have seen in BC Rykus are really not anything like authentic OG's- lots of folks up that way think OGs are stocky and wide like the bubba, but they are much more viney and thin.

DNA will tell the tale... put your money on the table.

 

[mack 10]

The first picture is the Larry OG clone compared to the Chemdog 91' Skunk VA clone. The rest of the pictures are the SFV OG Kush clone compared to the Chemdog 91' Skunk VA. See the similarities between the OGs and the Chemdog? Judge for yourselves people. And please let me know what you think.

The Larry looks close but no lemon in chem.
Maybe a cross between chem and something lemony that stretches.

 

[StankyBeamer]

The Larry looks close but no lemon in chem.
Maybe a cross between chem and something lemony that stretches.

Doesn't the Chem 4 give off a bit of Limonene in the profile? Either way I was talking about the og heritage with midnight roots not too long ago, and he had just recently got back from chilling with Josh d, Josh said that it's his opinion that the og is two sativas and an indica. I think the indicated is more dominant in the cross from what I've seen from the ogs I've ran, broad leaf traits and dense small buds.

 

[shishkaboy]

Doesn't the Chem 4 give off a bit of Limonene in the profile? Either way I was talking about the og heritage with midnight roots not too long ago, and he had just recently got back from chilling with Josh d, Josh said that it's his opinion that the og is two sativas and an indica. I think the indicated is more dominant in the cross from what I've seen from the ogs I've ran, broad leaf traits and dense small buds.

I got a little lemon from the 4. I can taste the refreshing pine of og in there too.

 

[Wendull C.]

Question for everyone versed in og. I've had brotherhood OG and super lemon og and I found them both to be very relaxing with zerooo anxiety factor. Is this true for all OGs and if so could anyone recommend one because brotherhood and super lemon og aren't available.

Certain strains give me anxiety after a tolerance break. Though it is usually from concentrates as I have a good tolerance even after not burning.
OG has never made me feel that way. Not even after too many tokes from the enail .
I like sfv but any I smoke seems to be a cool laid back buzz.

 

[CARE giver]

I need to get a cut of the sfv.

 

[Kush_Kloud]

Mack 10 the lemon side to OG Kush is the lemon Thai. While the actual Kush side is the Old World Paki Kush which is not the strain name but more so a old Pakistan landrace from the Hindu Kush mountains. Here's a picture of Kailua Kid's Old World Paki Kush dried bud. I wish he had growing plant pictures but this was all I could find. See how the bud looks slightly spiky like some indian sativa dominate Pakistan landraces.

 

[Kush_Kloud]

I got some more info from old forums about this strain here's some quotes of what Kailua Kid said "This Kush strain has been in Nor-Cal since 1974"
"I took this stuff out of the drying room and put it in jars today. I had to smoke a joint and I must say I'm really glad I dug these beans out of the fridge. More Important, I'm glad the 20 year old beans grew. I had forgot just how much I like that strong Kush smell and taste. And to be honest, I forgot just what a head banger this weed is."
"Old World Kush is killer. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy."
"BTW, OG Kush is 1/4 Old World Paki Kush, Bubba Kush is 3/8 Old World Paki Kush, and Orange Kush is 1/2 Old World Paki Kush"
And here's a quote about the other side of Orange Kush , "That's a fact. It's a double G13/WW male bred to my Old World Paki Kush mom."
Kailua Kid also says, "Old World Kush moms finishes in 70 days."
And now here is a quote from Kailua Kid pertaining to the Humboldt County Indica side used in West Coast Dog that was later crossed to His Old world Paki Kush male then crossed to OG Kush to Make the Original Bubba Kush pre-2k, "The male Jerry used was a mostly Afghani indica that didn't have any brand name. The seeds came from a guy around Fortuna. We got our Chem Dawg cuts around Thanksgiving of 93'. It was 6 or 7 weeks later that Jerry started the initial cross." This cross was said to have been a Bx3 of the Humboldt County Indica male and Chemdog 91'. This cross was called West Coast Dog and it was giving to some guy named bob who then crossed West Coast Dog to Kailua Kid's Old World Paki Kush male. Then the male of this cross was crossed to Putz OG Kush cut and this made Original Bubba Kush.

 

[rykus]

zero chance of that, no way OG and the HP / Champagne lines are related, totally different plants in terms of growth, yield, colour, stature, scent, etc.

Even Bubba is a stretch away from real "OG". What you have seen in BC Rykus are really not anything like authentic OG's- lots of folks up that way think OGs are stocky and wide like the bubba, but they are much more viney and thin.

DNA will tell the tale... put your money on the table.

I am not referring to the light green stretchy "BC hash plant", I'm talking about the lizard hp or Larry hp, depending the circle... Very viney, lots of three leaf leaves and dense hard pine cone nugs...was way potent too and was spread around select circles in 99-02 ish in the lower mainland, but was dropped because it was finicky and hard to clone.... Grew like champagne, but was a knock out.

Champagne IMO also grew like og.... Unfortunately I don't even have a related seed of either after I lost my genetics in '07...

Just got some cuttlefish hash plant seeds though... We'll see..

Fwiw I was given real og in bc in '07/08 as master Kush... But the one labelled og was main cola dominat and had huge stems and leaves, lol... Gotta love the mis label game... But IMO 100% the bikers brought up og as hp in the late 90's... Your experience could differ...

 

[Tynehead Tom]

the first "OG Kush" that came across my plate was in the late 90's. Monte's crew completely switched over all their many houses. Anyone involved in the BC, Vancouver lowermainland cash crop scene back then would know Monte, though perhaps by a different name. He's not in the game anymore as far as I know. At the time, the main biker grows were still being fed Biker Berry, Biker HP and Northern Lights 5, with some adding my Shiskaberry cut and Sweet Tooth into the mix. Most of the demand on the mom rooms was the berry and NL5 tho. OG Kush started becoming more prevalent after I left the scene.... so somewhere in early 2000's. My circles were Langley, surrey, delta, white rock, pitt meadows/mallairdville.


FWIW , about the Lizard and such. I've spoken with my uncle , who is personally responsible for a great many Cali and Oregon cuts finding their way north into BC thru the late 60's and into the 90's. I'm sure there were many others doing the same thing. My uncle tells me the Biker HP was an old line, picked up in san jose in the late 70's and he said if his memory serves, it was claimed to be of Nepalese origin. Not making any claims, just what an old biker, retired from the scene many years ago, was able to tell me about the surrey biker HP. HP was only grown for club stash right up to when I shut down my mom rooms. I was aware of, nor supplied any cash crop grows with that line and wasn't allowed to in fact.

 

[Medfinder]

OG kush

OG kush

Besides the 2 story's i've heard here and around the community...


I remember back in 81 when this lime green with Fat bright red hairs was in socal... we called it lime pine.

the next year we saw a lot of Anza skunk on the market straight roadkill smell....

i am still looking for this COCO brown thai that had the largest swollen calyxes i've ever seen... this was one hitter quitter that was 3 times better than the chocolate thai of the early 80's

the first legit cut of OG KUSH i sourced was from hollywood caregivers in hollywood 2005.

while i was dippin em in neem... Neville walked in and filled the SSH order!

there was only 3 coops back then...

NOW? LOL.. it's a buffet of untold strains sizes and such!

heres to the dreams of the 70's when we hoped some day california would be legal.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

F-ck this thread went to crap...... so much old and incorrect info being recirculated in these last few last comments .. I think just threw up a little in my mouth ...

The original OG clone came from Florida , the rest of the info being posted is all after the fact ....

OG and Chem Samples were sent in last February to phylos for DNA mapping , we will see soon ....

 

[shishkaboy]

I thought it was done already.

Rob Clarke says they are all related.

 

[Tynehead Tom]

F-ck this thread went to crap...... so much old and incorrect info being recirculated in these last few last comments .. I think just threw up a little in my mouth ...

The original OG clone came from Florida , the rest of the info being posted is all after the fact ....

OG and Chem Samples were sent in last February to phylos for DNA mapping , we will see soon ....

I wasn't referring to, nor disputing the origins of OG kush itself, I was responding to comments from some of our Canadian brothers about when I remember OG kush first showing up on the Vancouver BC Canada scene. Something which our good brothers and sisters in the US would know very little if anything about.

 

[Chimera]

I wasn't referring to, nor disputing the origins of OG kush itself, I was responding to comments from some of our Canadian brothers about when I remember OG kush first showing up on the Vancouver BC Canada scene. Something which our good brothers and sisters in the US would know very little if anything about.

Is that when the name showed up, or the plant? Because most of the "OG" I have seen passed around as flowers or cuttings in BC, is not OG at all but more likely a master/bubba related hybrid form. I'm not saying it's not here somewhere at this point, but I doubt very few BC growers or smokers could properly identify a true OG form.

Ive seen literally tons of BC Kush and old School HP in BC, and the market-archetype of those is nothing OG-like at all. I personally don't think the Lizard smelled anything like a real OG, much more bland and less in your face. However you can't see what is going on in every garden, just base your opinions on what you see in the marketplace, but based on that opinion OG is still a rarity in BC and I had no sight of large amounts of OG in BC, despite the bags named OG.

 

[Golden Tree]

What's your take on Lyndsay OG sir?

anybody?

Heard its pretty special...

Hugs everybody..

GT

 

[Golden Tree]

Anything to compare it to?

Thanks again

GT

When I think OG I think 91 Siblings..or Florida Crippy