OBAMA AND WEED

[Guest]

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I actually clicked some of those links and started to read. I have come to the conclusion that he will add to the problems we are already facing. He has no real knowledge or plan to fix the major issues. I mean come on this dude is soooo far into the welfare state, that will destroy the economy. That is like accepting that we are now a 3rd world country.

 

[Guest]

@greenhead
maybe it was kingpiff or someone it's not really important.. there was just some "strange" posts .. politics can get people low but let's try to keep it coolex.

What are you talking about?

 

[Guest]

if find his slogan a bit un-nerving. he says 'believe in change in washington but believe in your change', so what's he mean here? i've got to change to suit his agenda? no thanks.

he wants more drug courts to correct bad behaviour, that or prison if you don't comply and want freedom of choice.

 

[tngreen]

I actually clicked some of those links and started to read. I have come to the conclusion that he will add to the problems we are already facing. He has no real knowledge or plan to fix the major issues. I mean come on this dude is soooo far into the welfare state, that will destroy the economy. That is like accepting that we are now a 3rd world country.

duh hes a democrat and apparently the republican party wants to be like the democrats so they nominated a conservative democrat by the name of John Mccain. It will simply be a lesser of two evils again.

 

[Doj]

not interested enough to go back this thread really. like I said let it be.

but imo it's weird that someone doesn't support somesort of welfarestate.
Better and more equal education and littlebit cheaper healthcare.
I think he's suggesting investing money from wasteful projects to building welfare -
not taxing you more.
like you agreed about military spendings.

 

[Guest]

not interested enough to go back this thread really. like I said let it be.

but imo it's weird that someone doesn't support somesort of welfarestate.
Better and more equal education and littlebit cheaper healthcare.
I think he's suggesting investing money from wasteful projects to building welfare -
not taxing you more.
like you agreed about military spendings.

So your saying... giving free health care, food stamps, education etc. to illegals helps our economy? Where's he going to get that money? TAX TAX TAX. That is so unfair for the working American who has to pay their own bills and taxes + pay for the illegal shmuck who gets by for free. I agree on cutting back on military spending but not in the way you probally think of cutting back military spending. I want to see all 700 bases around the world closed down and ALL the troops come home and defend our country and not some one else's. What military spending do you and Obama want to cut back on? Sending the troops from Iraq to Afganistan and Pakistan ain't gonna cut it.

 

[SoEx]

he still doesn't explain anything. all i seen was a bunch of jibber jabber. no real plan for anything.

with his healthcare plan everybody will HAVE TO pay for it(kinda like car ins.) so how is someone making 10 dollars an hour gonna be able to afford it? the same with hillary. they both basicly have the same plan for us AMERICANS. get as much money out of our pockets as possible.


don't believe the hype. read our CONSTITUTION, the answers are there for all our problems in america.

obama, hillary, and mcain are members of the CFR(council on foriegn relations) the main body trying to turn us into the NORTH AMERICAN UNION and changeing our constitution.

how are they different if they all have the same goal?
there is only one lone man that would make a real change for the betterment of this great nation. one that is not a member of the CFR, would get us out of nafta, cafta, ssp, and would give us our liberty's back. and he has a concrete plan for it all, not just a bunch of talk.

do some research and stop watching and believing everything you here on tv


stay safe and free,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dwtc

Okay. So I didn't read any of this thread, and I don't usually like to get into political discourse over here (for certain reasons), but:

THERE
IS
NO
NORTH
AMERICAN
UNION


It's just some bullshit conspiracy created by the neocons in order to rile up the "true blooded" Americans into being xenophobic and scared of the pale people to the north and the "brown people" to the south.

Seriously. Do research. All of the NAU shit is unsubstantiated, unadulterated, pure bullshit. No one is going to try to merge Canada/US/Mexico.

You're just falling into their trap in order to get you riled up. If they can make you hate our neighbors, they can distract you from real, substantive issues (such as the erosion of our rights via the patriot act, the farce that is homeland security, and the horrible, horrible foreign policy with which we seem to draw the ire of every civilized nation in the world). If there's something to get "riled up" about, don't get riled up about some fake xenophobic NAU propaganda, get riled up about the fact that the US is still pursuing a failed drug policy as well as taking away our rights.

Peace.

 

[Guest]

THERE
IS
NO
NORTH
AMERICAN
UNION

How would you know there isn't? Theres more proof there is than there isn't. This is a serious issue right now in Texas, they are trying to build a super highway that goes from Mexico thru the U.S. all the way to Canada. George Bush is even having a private meeting with prime minister of Canada and President of Mexico which is probally about the NAU.

 

[Guest]

BTW a NAU will eliminate all personal rights. It will abolish the Constitution and we would probally have a Prime Minister, not a President.

 

[Ripcord]

Ron Paul drops out of race

 

[SoEx]

How would you know there isn't? Theres more proof there is than there isn't. This is a serious issue right now in Texas, they are trying to build a super highway that goes from Mexico thru the U.S. all the way to Canada. George Bush is even having a private meeting with prime minister of Canada and President of Mexico which is probally about the NAU.

From only seconds of looking for links/information:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/03/25/090958.php

And look who introduced the non-binding house resolution to oppose the North American Union:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc109-487

Notice anything special there?

Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2007-01-07]
Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY]
Rep. Walter Jones [R-NC]
Rep. Jack Kingston [R-GA]
Rep. Ronald Paul [R-TX]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]
Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN]

It's all the republicans again. But I'm sure the Republicans would NEVER lie to us in order to manipulate the American people or play on our fears, they're far too honest to do that

As for the NAU highway bull, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union#NAFTA_Superhighway

Gasp! We have a highway that already connects your lovely state (Tx) with Mexico and Canada. It's called I-35. And, although it sucks in Texas (from what I hear it's constantly being worked on), it's quite well developed higher north up the line.

Look, I'm not trying to offend those of you who believe in the NAU. I'm just telling you to please do some critical thinking and a bit of objective research, rather than falling into the trap the purporters of the NAU myth have put forth.

 

[Guest]

It is REAL and it is happening. Think how the European Union came about. It started with those bullshit free trade agreements and then they combined all currencies and created the Euro. Same thing is happening today we have those bullshit NAFTA deals. Before you know it they will try to combine our currency and create the Amero currency. Why do you think they haven't secured our borders, especially when they say we are in a war on terror and the bastards are worried about terrorist coming into our country. Don't you think if they didn't want the so called terrorist stepping foot on our land that they would secure the borders to stop them. NO they would never its a waste of money and time because they are trying to create the NAU. Its REAL don't let no 1 tell you its not. We need to stand together and stop this from happening because we are the only ones who could. Please watch these videos watch every minute of it. Afterwards I encourage you to do more research on the NAU because it is happening and it will affect yours, mine, and every other Americans life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJxMdxLlGCI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HecbGXzNLMs

 

[PGW]

I have to chime in on this one now.

One would have to be horribly naive to think that the elitists are standing by patiently watching the world leaders make decisions. Power-hungry elites are total control freaks and WILL control anything, as long as their money buys the decisions they want. I have a lot of unsubstantiated opinions that I'll leave out of this dicussion, but just stop and think for a moment..........they've been taking away our rights and liberties since they were first written out in the Const. and the Bill of Rights. Why wouldn't they eventually take totalitarian control, as long as they can pursuade us to believe it's in our best interest .....as in terrorists that never blow up anything. BTW, The government blew up the WTC....at least all the experts say so.

The government blows up the WTC, immediately enacts the PATRIOT Act, and Homeland Security so they can violate any and all rights to privacy and anonymity....hmmmm I smell a rat. And now, amazingly enough, there has never been another attack since their inception....smelling another rat here. We have no other terrorist attack because OUR GOVERNMENT IS/ARE THE TERRORISTS. Definition of terrorist: noun; to incite fear by action, one who uses fear of others to attain a goal usually by force or destruction, the incitation of insecurity.

Sorry for the rant.

So, to get back on topic....it doesn't figgin matter who we vote for, they're all in it together. Unless, of course they wanna end up like JFK. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! The government is NOT a true democracy, nor do they give a rats ass about any of us. We are the worker bees. When we step out of line, they get rid of us cuz there will always be more worker bees.

 

[facelift]

It doesn't matter who answer how, there will always be people who disagree. Besides, by the time I posted my answer, there were 12 pages of answers. Honestly, I can't tell you what he's going to do to solve the problems out there. He hasn't been about substance, he's been all about speeches where he touts himself as the candidate for change, not the candidate with answers.

 

[Doj]

Discretionary budgets in $ (billions) and percentages Year 2009

Total 997$

Defense 541$ Defense 54%
Education 61.9$ Education 6.2%
Health 52.7$ Health 5.3%

The defense budget is only the Pentagon request each Fiscal Year. It does not include nuclear weapons programs from the Department of Energy, or funding for wars such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

- US military spending accounts for 48 percent, or almost half, of the world’s total military spending
- US military spending is more than the next 46 highest spending countries in the world combined
- US military spending is 5.8 times more than China, 10.2 times more than Russia, and 98.6 times more than Iran.

 

[Doj]

There is only one country that is on almost continual warfare
and that is where the taxes go. sad but true.
The F22 is all paid for by the US taxpayer - with no enemies in sight.

Kpiff your saying that we don't need to cut the budget majorly? just need to put those international bases down?
What are we going to do with all those new scientific weapons of mass destruction that our taxes are going? What are we going to do with them?
hope you don't support them in the name of safety..
Other nations don't posses that kind of weapon arsenal.
Doesn't that make you feel safe?
How safe does the rest of the world feel. I don't know.

I haven't heard that any nation has attacked to our country or is going to.
The questionable wtc thing is one but yes that is really another odd story as we know.

 

[Guest]

There is only one country that is on almost continual warfare
and that is where the taxes go. sad but true.
The F22 is all paid for by the US taxpayer - with no enemies in sight.

Kpiff your saying that we don't need to cut the budget majorly? just need to put those international bases down?
What are we going to do with all those new scientific weapons of mass destruction that our taxes are going? What are we going to do with them?
hope you don't support them in the name of safety..
Other nations don't posses that kind of weapon arsenal.
Doesn't that make you feel safe?
How safe does the rest of the world feel. I don't know.

I haven't heard that any nation has attacked to our country or is going to.
The questionable wtc thing is one but yes that is really another odd story as we know.

I don't know where you get we don't need to cut major budjet. I never said that. We need to cut massive programs and cut back all spending. Starting with our empire that we can not manage and afford. You ask where our taxes going? The taxes we pay are paying back the massive debt we are in, its not going towards anything that benefits us. Obama's bill for all his big government programs will cost 287 billion dollars each year. That is going the wrong way, we need to cut spending not add to the deficit.

 

[Doj]

..yes but many projects are really needed despite who new president is.
like this oil use limiting and changes in infrastructure. sure they cost alot but what choices do we have? If they are not started asap we will go even deeper in debt when oil prices double every otheryear.
..and sorry if I underlined your opinion about the military budget thing wrong.

 

[Guest]

..yes but many projects are really needed despite who new president is.
like this oil use limiting and changes in infrastructure. sure they cost alot but what choices do we have? If they are not started asap we will go even deeper in debt when oil prices double every otheryear.
..and sorry if I underlined your opinion about the military budget thing wrong.

I don't think so, I don't want to be forced to pay taxes for bullshit that will hurt the economy even more. You should study economics, I prefer Austrian economics and find out for yourself what causes high prices. Its called inflation and money being backed by no value, its PAPER!!!! If we have gold as money like the constitution states we should, prices would still be the same as they were 100 years ago. If you want to fix the economy you need to have a STABLE CURRENCY. The value of the dollar is 4 cents a dollar and it is because we do not have sound currency. Obama has no clue how the economy works, if what you are saying is his plan then its a complete failure and will lead to disaster.

 

[guest]

I don't think so, I don't want to be forced to pay taxes for bullshit that will hurt the economy even more. You should study economics, I prefer Austrian economics and find out for yourself what causes high prices. Its called inflation and money being backed by no value, its PAPER!!!! If we have gold as money like the constitution states we should, prices would still be the same as they were 100 years ago. If you want to fix the economy you need to have a STABLE CURRENCY. The value of the dollar is 4 cents a dollar and it is because we do not have sound currency. Obama has no clue how the economy works, if what you are saying is his plan then its a complete failure and will lead to disaster.

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