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o shit i just fried the ac cord connection please help

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TREE KING

..and in the process, you proceeded to show and tell us all how your room is dangerously, well, unsafe.

And in that process, failed to appreciate or respect the observation on the part of many others.

The same others you were asking for help to rig up your previously unsafe AC.

i never asked the fuckin question thats a fact so i dont need to hear the shit talkin, end of story.
 

silver hawaiian

Active member
Veteran
I didn't ever use the term "extension cords" nor "running" in my post.

You're clearly not even reading the advice you're soliciting.
 
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TREE KING

Do you even know the total you have available to the unit? There is no way you can still be plugging shit in over there dude! WTF!
Thats probably a gfci you are reseting(for some reason I cant see pics on my browser now). it detects a faulty ground and keeps you from killing yourself.
EDIT: You are so delusional youre not even willing to listen to the electronics themselves now! Dont press your luck! Its been fun and I really want to see you continue to post your failed crops, and constant switching between growing methods and nutrients before you finally take down some buds, so please dont kill yourself. I wanna be there to pat you on the back when youre growing the bomb dude!
I gotta go take care of business. Keep us posted, homie

suck a dick! didnt i tell you to get the fuck outta here. bounce!
 
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TREE KING

The 65 is designed to work with the nextgen's only, its a specific mogul soket... ive run the 25s on normal mag coils... Az

is nextgen the name of the company or is it a type of ballast made by different companies? i cant find a ballast by that name on the discount-hydro.com site. do they make a ballast that switches from mh to hps and 110v to 220v i need both these options?
 
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TribalSeeds

suck a dick! didnt i tell you to get the fuck outta here. bounce!


Hey I just finished with all my growing for the day. My lights just went on 30mins ago. Hardly any work to do, no PH Perfect or anything. I just spent time tying up my colas that are falling over.
Did you need me to tell you again to stop what youre doing? You shouldnt be listening to anyone in this threads advice. Im the only one telling you the truth
Lets see the mods kick me out of this one, fool
 
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greenmatter

ok i got a question for you guys. i have this type of outlet on my wall on the kitchen counter and on the fuse box it says its a 20 amp circuit but when i plug in a 8000 btu ac it flicks the switch on the outlet, shuts the power off and then i have to hit the reset button on the outlet. does anyone know why it does this?


tree

if you don't understand what that silly thing is and what that silly thing is made to do than trying to explain it is going to be REALLY fucking hard to do.

you are over your head here brother and all anyone is trying to do is get you to listen, which would get you to stop , which would get you to fix things, which would at least help US sleep better. if i lived in an apartment building and i thought there was a chance that you were in the same building I WOULD BE SLEEPING IN MY CAR

the one thing i have noticed is that there are no members here who keep saying that they are electricians. i think it is because every one of them on IC has already tried to "reason" with you about your approach to wiring, and the fact that THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT makes you really hard to deal with

multiple people who don't understand as much as someone who actually earns there living making sure people don't get killed by electricity have noticed that you don't really know what the hell you are doing, and the shortcuts you are (and have been) willing to make are just out and out dangerous.

by my count there are probably a dozen if not more members who are electricians, and not one of them is willing to tell you how to fix your issues. all these guys are always willing to help another member out but they have washed their hands of you.

does that make you stop and think that maybe, just maybe you could be in a place that scares the ever living shit out of the pros?

why the hell do you want to be there?

the last time i was this frustrated by a thread the benefits of cat piss and diesel fumes in a breeding program was the subject of debate ........ your position is even weaker/goofier/ dumber ........ and WAY more dangerous
 
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TREE KING

tree

if you don't understand what that silly thing is and what that silly thing is made to do than trying to explain it is going to be REALLY fucking hard to do.

you are over your head here brother and all anyone is trying to do is get you to listen, which would get you to stop , which would get you to fix things, which would at least help US sleep better. if i lived in an apartment building and i thought there was a chance that you were in the same building I WOULD BE SLEEPING IN MY CAR

the one thing i have noticed is that there are no members here who keep saying that they are electricians. i think it is because every one of them on IC has already tried to "reason" with you about your approach to wiring, and the fact that THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT makes you really hard to deal with

multiple people who don't understand as much as someone who actually earns there living making sure people don't get killed by electricity have noticed that you don't really know what the hell you are doing, and the shortcuts you are (and have been) willing to make are just out and out dangerous.

by my count there are probably a dozen if not more members who are electricians, and not one of them is willing to tell you how to fix your issues. all these guys are always willing to help another member out but they have washed their hands of you.

does that make you stop and think that maybe, just maybe you could be in a place that scares the ever living shit out of the pros?

why the hell do you want to be there?

the last time i was this frustrated by a thread the benefits of cat piss and diesel fumes in a breeding program was the subject of debate ........ your position is even weaker/goofier/ dumber ........ and WAY more dangerous
to be honest i dont really care who in this thread thinks im over my head. if i was an electrician or knew alot about the subjects in this thread than i would calmly give the thread starter my thoughts without bashing him and that would be the end of it. instead you got people name calling and posting the same shit over and over like they got nothing better to do. thats the difference between me and alot of other people in this thread. i dont bash people when they dont know as much as i do and there trying to learn something. so if you think im not smart enough to understand what that outlet is on the wall that dont say anything to me and keep it movin. im always gonna be on the mission to learn more shit weather you like it or not. and to the minority of people in this thread that were helpful and gave me information and taught me a few things like how to rewire an air conditioner cord i thank you guys very much. instead of these people insulting me they taught me a few things which is why i started this thread in the first place

a perfect example is AzGrOw-N-sMoKe. he heard i was using extension cords but instead of him insulting me he told me im able to get 65' cords to hook up my ballast now i dont have to use extension cords anymore. we need more people like him on here thanks AzGrOw-N-sMoKe
 
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TribalSeeds

shit i just fried the ac cord connection please help
i never asked the fuckin question thats a fact so i dont need to hear the shit talkin, end of story.



to be honest i dont really care who in this thread thinks im over my head. if i was an electrician or knew alot about the subjects in this thread than i would calmly give the thread starter my thoughts without bashing him and that would be the end of it. instead you got people name calling and posting the same shit over and over like they got nothing better to do. thats the difference between me and alot of other people in this thread. i dont bash people when they dont know as much as i do and there trying to learn something. so if you think im not smart enough to understand what that outlet is on the wall that dont say anything to me and keep it movin. im always gonna be on the mission to learn more shit weather you like it or not. and to the minority of people in this thread that were helpful and gave me information and taught me a few things like how to rewire an air conditioner cord i thank you guys very much. instead of these people insulting me they taught me a few things which is why i started this thread in the first place

a perfect example is AzGrOw-N-sMoKe. he heard i was using extension cords but instead of him insulting me he told me im able to get 65' cords to hook up my ballast now i dont have to use extension cords anymore. we need more people like him on here thanks AzGrOw-N-sMoKe


Hey dumbfuck! You do realize its still unsafe to plug this shit in with the longer cords right? Just because its plugged into a different outlet doesnt mean its on a different circuit. There is no way you have 4 seperate circuits, plus that 30 amps, a dedicated circuit for 1 AC, pumps, fans another AC and unless youre living by candle light youve got to be using other appliances. You cant safely use the digital timers for your 1000W lights!

I repeat! Do not take anyone elses advice and shut this fucking grow down before you kill your neighbors.
 

-Dank Hill-

New member
Epic thread indeed, Tribal.
It's a laugh or cry situation really.
It would be a laugh your ass off tears running down your face thread, if it wasn't for the innocent peoples lives and property hanging in the balance of FireStarters next bright idea. :smoky:
http://youtu.be/g8D4AsLzlM0
 
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TREE KING

shit i just fried the ac cord connection please help







Hey dumbfuck! You do realize its still unsafe to plug this shit in with the longer cords right? Just because its plugged into a different outlet doesnt mean its on a different circuit. There is no way you have 4 seperate circuits, plus that 30 amps, a dedicated circuit for 1 AC, pumps, another AC and unless youre living by candle light youve got to be using other appliances.

I repeat! Do not take anyone elses advice and shut this fucking grow down before you kill your neighbors.

hey fake internet thug. im never gonna respond to any post of yours ever again so your better off just never posting in this thread again im done with you.
 
ok i got a question for you guys. i have this type of outlet on my wall on the kitchen counter and on the fuse box it says its a 20 amp circuit but when i plug in a 8000 btu ac it flicks the switch on the outlet, shuts the power off and then i have to hit the reset button on the outlet. does anyone know why it does this?
20 amp breaker is for your whole kitchen, not just that one receptacle.
 
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TribalSeeds

hey fake internet thug. im never gonna respond to any post of yours ever again so your better off just never posting in this thread again im done with you.

I challenge you to find any ghetto shit Ive ever said anywhere on ICMag. I cant believe how convoluted your thought process must be. Fuck trying to tie your shoes must be extremely difficult! I imagine you post "help me tie my shoes" threads across multiple forums just to get that done so you can walk into your grow room and torture another batch of clones to death!
Fuck you. Go ahead burn your place down. But when youre in cuffs I hope you realize that TribalSeeds was also correct about PH Perfect!
 
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TREE KING

20 amp breaker is for your whole kitchen, not just that one receptacle.

i know that but theres nothing else being powered in my kitchen nothing was turned on you know what im sayin? the fridge is on its own circuit. i also forgot to mention i have two of these outlets on the same counter and there seperated at 20 amps each so i really have 40 amp access in the kitchen i also have outlets like this in both my bathrooms but i didnt try plugging the ac in there

why does the outlet trip instead of it tripping on the box in the basement? i feel like its stopping me from being able to use more power on the 20 amp circuits. is it possible the outlet trips at 10 amps when it can really handle 20 cause its wired at 20?
 
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greenmatter

to be honest i dont really care who in this thread thinks im over my head. if i was an electrician or knew alot about the subjects in this thread than i would calmly give the thread starter my thoughts without bashing him and that would be the end of it. instead you got people name calling and posting the same shit over and over like they got nothing better to do. thats the difference between me and alot of other people in this thread. i dont bash people when they dont know as much as i do and there trying to learn something. so if you think im not smart enough to understand what that outlet is on the wall that dont say anything to me and keep it movin. im always gonna be on the mission to learn more shit weather you like it or not. and to the minority of people in this thread that were helpful and gave me information and taught me a few things like how to rewire an air conditioner i thank you guys very much. instead of these people insulting me they taught me a few things which is why i started this thread in the first place

:laughing: you are not trying to learn a god damn thing. you listen to what fits into your half assed plan and ignore the "hard parts" ...... or ....... ready for the short version? ..............you think like a fucking tweeker!

i think you are more than smart enough to actually learn how to do this shit right, but something makes you think that every rule and every electric code is only there cause someone was bored and decided to complicate things for fun.

your outlet is a GFI and they are THERE TO PROTECT YOU FROM KILLING YOURSELF even though you can't understand WTF it is

the reason so many people have been saying things you don't want to hear over and over again is because YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND. how the fuck else are they suppose to get that across to you?

you ignore good advice completely but you take it to heart when someone says you are a fool for doing it. i will actually take the time to explain a GFI to you if you could possibly explain WTF you are thinking to me

the way you roll you have a good chance of getting electrocuted ..... at this point the only thing that is going to shock me is if you pull your head out of your ass and start fucking listening

sorry mods! it had to be said and if anyone outside of IC is actually reading this fucking thread they should be aware that the majority of us don't like or encourage dumbfuckery when dealing with electricity. ONE STUPID STONER DOING INSANELY STUPID SHIT MAKES US ALL LOOK BAD

good luck Tree King! i really hope you don't get hurt ........ FWIW my grandma told me that god looks out for children and idiots. you should live a long life if that crazy old bitch was right:tiphat:
 
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TribalSeeds

Just so you know... Thats not how it works either! Each room doesnt get its own circuit!
Each outlet gets connected to the closest wire run. Therefor two rooms that share a wall may also share 1 part of a circuit on that one wall and still share a totally different circuit on the otherside, all while sharing a whole other circuit for the overhead lights! The only thing in your kitchen that probably has its own circuit is the stove - if its electric!
Youre so far over your head its making me sick, Im having a hard time laughing because Im concerned for your mental health as well as the safety of others
Green is right! The majority of us don't like or encourage dumbfuckery and when fools burn down their houses and kill other people it makes us all look bad


i know that but theres nothing else being powered in my kitchen nothing was turned on you know what im sayin? the fridge is on its own circuit. i also forgot to mention i have two of these outlets on the same counter and there seperated at 20 amps each so i really have 40 amp access in the kitchen i also have outlets like this in both my bathrooms but i didnt try plugging the ac in there

why does the outlet trip instead of it tripping on the box in the basement? i feel like its stopping me from being able to use more power on the 20 amp circuits. is it possible the outlet trips at 10 amps when it can really handle 20 cause its wired at 20?


Reserve a spot for tree on the members we miss thread. Im calling it now. 9-20-12
 

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe

Active member
You could order some of these for the 65ft an your normal ballasts if going any 25 ft or shorter... of you can figure what ya need to run for the 4k to be extension cord free, double it an 4k at night one roon an 4k in the day on the other... 0 elec work an ya have your 8k garden, run 2 ballast per 15 amp breaker but never at the same time..... then when ypu figure how to do elev work u can get pne'a these for that 30 amp dryer, if in fact it is 30 amp... http://www.hydroheadquarters.com/nextgen-1000w-switchable-digital-ballast/ . Az

http://www.discount-hydro.com/purgro-1k4-flip-ballast/
 
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TribalSeeds

You could order some of these for the 65ft an your normal ballasts if going any 25 ft or shorter... of you can figure what ya need to run for the 4k to be extension cord free, double it an 4k at night one roon an 4k in the day on the other... 0 elec work an ya have your 8k garden, run 2 ballast per 15 amp breaker but never at the same time..... then when ypu figure how to do elev work u can get pne'a these for that 30 amp dryer, if in fact it is 30 amp... http://www.hydroheadquarters.com/nextgen-1000w-switchable-digital-ballast/ . Az

http://www.discount-hydro.com/purgro-1k4-flip-ballast/

Best advice here
lol
 
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greenmatter

i don't know for sure but i have read in more than one place that you can run 50 foot lamp cords on an electronic ballast

if so you could take your power from the dryer supply (like other members have said), mount all your ballasts so they will plug in on the factory supply cords (like you are suppose to)outside the rooms so the heat from the ballasts would be less of an issue.......... and unless your apartment is huge, you should be able to put all the lights anyplace you want to. and it would all be safe

but that would be silly wouldn't it?
 
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TREE KING

You could order some of these for the 65ft an your normal ballasts if going any 25 ft or shorter... of you can figure what ya need to run for the 4k to be extension cord free, double it an 4k at night one roon an 4k in the day on the other... 0 elec work an ya have your 8k garden, run 2 ballast per 15 amp breaker but never at the same time..... then when ypu figure how to do elev work u can get pne'a these for that 30 amp dryer, if in fact it is 30 amp... http://www.hydroheadquarters.com/nextgen-1000w-switchable-digital-ballast/ . Az

http://www.discount-hydro.com/purgro-1k4-flip-ballast/

wow you keep giving me the best fuckin advice thanks. now i dont gotta fuck with the washer and dryer connection and i can still run 8 lights. i dont have enough room to go past 8 lights so for now i wont be needing that PURGRO 1K4 FLIP BALLAST. im curious what you would do if you were me though. as far as the 4 lights in the attic currently, theres no attic door its just empty so i put a black tarp up with velcro and its easy to run the ballast cords underneath but when i add the 4 more lights in the bedroom the door is gonna be closed so how do you recommend i run the 4 ballast wired into the room?
 
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