o shit i just fried the ac cord connection please help

[greenmatter]

from what my friend said its not complicated at all. its all good if you or anyone else dont wanna show me how to do it il figure it out somehow i always do.

homey, nothing is complicated AS LONG AS YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT. why don't you ask your friend how to do it? if you have hung out together you know how to communicate ........ one misunderstanding could actually cost you your ass, and you are missing a lot of what has been said to you so far


FWIW i hope whatever you do works for you, and i really hope you don't get fucked up doing it

 

[Lammy]

we'll no matter what im using an extension cord. even if i gotta go buy another ac im still using a cord. i disagree with you guys that its dangerous you just have to buy a big gage one thats not gonna get hot
as far as cutting the wire and all that i would listen to you guys. if i rewire this into this new gfi it would be identical to the one it came with right?

well you haven't listened to me at all yet but I'm going to go out of my way still and give you more information. but just so you know I have a disability that makes it rather difficult for me to spend to much time typing. but...

I said it in my first post, you do not want a GFCI for your air conditioner!! air conditioners do not come with a GFCI on them. that GFCI will not stop anything from catching on fire. it will protect you from getting shocked if you use an electrical device in one hand while the other hand is in water. you didn't ask me because you don't care about doing this the right way. the reason you do not want to use a GFCI anyway just to be safe. is that most likely it will shut off one of times your AC kicks on as electrical surges tend to trip them.

although the less electrical stuff running in that place the better in my opinion.

if you get a book about electrical wiring as suggested you could learn that about the GFCI's. you could also learn why you're not supposed to use extension cords or power strips at all!! according to the National Electric Code every device needs to be plugged directly into an outlet. that includes little devices like your DVD player not to mention an air conditioner or high wattage HID. if you do not have enough outlets where you need them. they want you to have more installed by a professional electrician. while that may be a little much for DVD players and such. most people don't consider the rating of extension cords or power strips to compare those to the load that they're generating. and that is how a lot of fires start.

why don't you get a book about electrical wiring and read it and if it still does not make any sense to you then don't do any electrical work. please.

there are plenty of ways you could have done it safely without using extension cords and without going back to the main breaker box. but you don't care about that or ask about that because you have your mind set on doing something you shouldn't do and you only listen to people when they give you advice that you want to hear.

please do not attempt to wire a sub panel yourself!! I believe the situation with the extension cords is safer, but it is not safe.

tree-king I'm really not sure if this entire thread is a practical joke or not. I find it hard to believe that anybody could have a complete disregard for safety and human life as you shown in this thread. if you cannot or will not have your stuff set up with a reasonable amount of safety then you should not do it at all!!

what do you have under those 4000 watts that is not worth paying good money to have the electrical done safely by someone who knows what they are doing?

you should let the other occupants of the building know that their lives are in danger. if you do not and something happens to them I hope that you burn for an eternity in hell. no offense.

good luck.
Lammy.

 

[TREE KING]

well you haven't listened to me at all yet but I'm going to go out of my way still and give you more information. but just so you know I have a disability that makes it rather difficult for me to spend to much time typing. but...

I said it in my first post, you do not want a GFCI for your air conditioner!! air conditioners do not come with a GFCI on them. that GFCI will not stop anything from catching on fire. it will protect you from getting shocked if you use an electrical device in one hand while the other hand is in water. you didn't ask me because you don't care about doing this the right way. the reason you do not want to use a GFCI anyway just to be safe. is that most likely it will shut off one of times your AC kicks on as electrical surges tend to trip them.

although the less electrical stuff running in that place the better in my opinion.

if you get a book about electrical wiring as suggested you could learn that about the GFCI's. you could also learn why you're not supposed to use extension cords or power strips at all!! according to the National Electric Code every device needs to be plugged directly into an outlet. that includes little devices like your DVD player not to mention an air conditioner or high wattage HID. if you do not have enough outlets where you need them. they want you to have more installed by a professional electrician. while that may be a little much for DVD players and such. most people don't consider the rating of extension cords or power strips to compare those to the load that they're generating. and that is how a lot of fires start.

why don't you get a book about electrical wiring and read it and if it still does not make any sense to you then don't do any electrical work. please.

there are plenty of ways you could have done it safely without using extension cords and without going back to the main breaker box. but you don't care about that or ask about that because you have your mind set on doing something you shouldn't do and you only listen to people when they give you advice that you want to hear.

please do not attempt to wire a sub panel yourself!! I believe the situation with the extension cords is safer, but it is not safe.

tree-king I'm really not sure if this entire thread is a practical joke or not. I find it hard to believe that anybody could have a complete disregard for safety and human life as you shown in this thread. if you cannot or will not have your stuff set up with a reasonable amount of safety then you should not do it at all!!

what do you have under those 4000 watts that is not worth paying good money to have the electrical done safely by someone who knows what they are doing?

you should let the other occupants of the building know that their lives are in danger. if you do not and something happens to them I hope that you burn for an eternity in hell. no offense.

good luck.
Lammy.

you must of not read this whole thread i cant have an electrician come into my grow house its not an option plus only one person knows i grow. my only option is to run extension cords. if you have any ideas on something i can do myself il hear it but i dont see any options. ive been running extension cords for years and never had a problem with them unless there too small. i also know other people that have been using extension cords for 20 fuckin years. you just gotta make sure they can handle alot more watts than your running. as a matter of fact im gonna upgrade all my cords to handle 20 amps even know theres only 10 amps being used on them to be extra safe. guys i got the point i dont need like 10-20 more people telling me the same thing over and over. of course if you wanna help me solve the problem and give me an option on something i can do myself il hear it i just didnt think i had any other options.

i appreciate the help but no more comments telling me extension cords are a bad idea i get the point. read you loud and clear. whoever wants to help me solve my electrical problems il listen. thanks guys

 

[Guest 315072]

DUDE IM TELLING U STRIP A ORANGE EXTENSION CORD.. AND CUT OFF THE PLUG TO THE AC.. THEN REWIRE BLACK BLACK WHITE WHITE GREEN GREEN.. AND TAPE UP ELECTRICAL TAPE.. AND YOUR REALLY DONE.. U DONT NEED TO PUT A PLUG ON IT AND PUT INTO A EXTENSION CORD WEN U CAN MAKE THE EXTENSION CORD THE PLUG ITSELF!

 

[TribalSeeds]

well you haven't listened to me at all yet but I'm going to go out of my way still and give you more information. but just so you know I have a disability that makes it rather difficult for me to spend to much time typing. but...

I said it in my first post, you do not want a GFCI for your air conditioner!! air conditioners do not come with a GFCI on them. that GFCI will not stop anything from catching on fire. it will protect you from getting shocked if you use an electrical device in one hand while the other hand is in water. you didn't ask me because you don't care about doing this the right way. the reason you do not want to use a GFCI anyway just to be safe. is that most likely it will shut off one of times your AC kicks on as electrical surges tend to trip them.

although the less electrical stuff running in that place the better in my opinion.

if you get a book about electrical wiring as suggested you could learn that about the GFCI's. you could also learn why you're not supposed to use extension cords or power strips at all!! according to the National Electric Code every device needs to be plugged directly into an outlet. that includes little devices like your DVD player not to mention an air conditioner or high wattage HID. if you do not have enough outlets where you need them. they want you to have more installed by a professional electrician. while that may be a little much for DVD players and such. most people don't consider the rating of extension cords or power strips to compare those to the load that they're generating. and that is how a lot of fires start.

why don't you get a book about electrical wiring and read it and if it still does not make any sense to you then don't do any electrical work. please.

there are plenty of ways you could have done it safely without using extension cords and without going back to the main breaker box. but you don't care about that or ask about that because you have your mind set on doing something you shouldn't do and you only listen to people when they give you advice that you want to hear.

please do not attempt to wire a sub panel yourself!! I believe the situation with the extension cords is safer, but it is not safe.

tree-king I'm really not sure if this entire thread is a practical joke or not. I find it hard to believe that anybody could have a complete disregard for safety and human life as you shown in this thread. if you cannot or will not have your stuff set up with a reasonable amount of safety then you should not do it at all!!

what do you have under those 4000 watts that is not worth paying good money to have the electrical done safely by someone who knows what they are doing?

you should let the other occupants of the building know that their lives are in danger. if you do not and something happens to them I hope that you burn for an eternity in hell. no offense.

good luck.
Lammy.

People think Im just being an asshole?

 

[greenmatter]

you must of not read this whole thread i cant have an electrician come into my grow house its not an option plus only one person knows i grow. my only option is to run extension cords. if you have any ideas on something i can do myself il hear it but i dont see any options. ive been running extension cords for years and never had a problem with them unless there too small. i also know other people that have been using extension cords for 20 fuckin years. you just gotta make sure they can handle alot more watts than your running. as a matter of fact im gonna upgrade all my cords to handle 20 amps even know theres only 10 amps being used on them to be extra safe. guys i got the point i dont need like 10-20 more people telling me the same thing over and over. of course if you wanna help me solve the problem and give me an option on something i can do myself il hear it i just didnt think i had any other options.

i appreciate the help but no more comments telling me extension cords are a bad idea i get the point. read you loud and clear. whoever wants to help me solve my electrical problems il listen. thanks guys

and the darwin award goes too .......

 

[Norkali]

I petition to have OP's username changed to either, TREE JESTER or TREE JOKER.

Then, once he pulls his first good run, we might be able to consider promoting him to TREE JACK.

 

[greenmatter]

I petition to have OP's username changed to either, TREE JESTER or TREE JOKER.

Then, once he pulls his first good run, we might be able to consider promoting him to TREE JACK.

if he makes it through the first run "Flame Retardant" will actually make sense on many different levels .......... or since this hits on electric safety and doing something about it, "Resistance" would be a good one too

so many puns ..... so little time

 

[iampolluted]

he could fix his problems for about $200 with a light controller rated for 240v, assuming he can rewire his ballasts for 240v, which isn't that hard, and a 240v 3 wire plug from hd.

if he can wire up a plug he can do this safely and relatively cheap, without burning down the house

edit: he only needs something like a helios 3, and some new ballast cords, and a 240v dryer cord.

 

[greenmatter]

he could fix his problems for about $200 with a light controller rated for 240v, assuming he can rewire his ballasts for 240v, which isn't that hard, and a 240v 3 wire plug from hd.

if he can wire up a plug he can do this safely and relatively cheap, without burning down the house

edit: he only needs something like a helios 3, and some new ballast cords, and a 240v dryer cord.

^^^^^^^^

now that right there is a helpful post! (and i'm all out of rep for the day unfortunately)

and the WHOLE project would probably cost less the plan to upgrade the extension cords

 

[stagehand099]

Fellas, you might as well be talking to a fencepost as giving advice to this joker. I tried it once. The lights are on but nobody's home. I hate to be negative about anyone but DAMN! Read up on all the crazy scary stupid shit he has posted over the last 18 months and tell me he's not either jacking everybody up with BS or he is more incompetant than Mitt Romney......He argues with the good advice, agrees with the bad advice and basically tells the good folks he has a better way...LOL. Read up on his "better ways" And GOD HELP ANY NEIGHBORS living in the same building if he isn't talking shit....

stagehand

 

[TREE KING]

DUDE IM TELLING U STRIP A ORANGE EXTENSION CORD.. AND CUT OFF THE PLUG TO THE AC.. THEN REWIRE BLACK BLACK WHITE WHITE GREEN GREEN.. AND TAPE UP ELECTRICAL TAPE.. AND YOUR REALLY DONE.. U DONT NEED TO PUT A PLUG ON IT AND PUT INTO A EXTENSION CORD WEN U CAN MAKE THE EXTENSION CORD THE PLUG ITSELF!

live2gro you know im already done with the job right? did you read what i did? i just wanna make sure you know cause what people were saying in this thread were the wires inside the extension cords are not made as good so i dont understand what the difference is if im still using the cord anyway but minusing out the spi? im not trying to argue with what your saying i just wanna understand it before i change it again

 

[TREE KING]

he could fix his problems for about $200 with a light controller rated for 240v, assuming he can rewire his ballasts for 240v, which isn't that hard, and a 240v 3 wire plug from hd.

if he can wire up a plug he can do this safely and relatively cheap, without burning down the house

edit: he only needs something like a helios 3, and some new ballast cords, and a 240v dryer cord.

this is exactly what im gonna do then. i just gotta do some research and figure out how to do it thanks iampolluted

for other people talkin shit. isnt it nice to be on the internet and not have to deal with the consequences of talkin shit. whoever talks shit on the internet try saying that to someones face instead of hiding behind a computer screen. you all are some fuckin pussys i wasnt even talkin to you clowns or talkin shit to anyone in the first place than you all start runnin your mouths. its all good keep hiding behind the computer screen. i havent talked shit to anyone in this thread.

 

[iampolluted]

no problem. if you can, have your buddy talk you through it or i can help if needed. shouldn't take long to do. not sure if you have a 3 or 4 prong outlet on the 220v line but the controller is a 3 wire input.

make sure your ballasts are capable of running at 220v before ya buy a controller. some only run @ 120v.

 

[TREE KING]

no problem. if you can, have your buddy talk you through it or i can help if needed. shouldn't take long to do. not sure if you have a 3 or 4 prong outlet on the 220v line but the controller is a 3 wire input.

make sure your ballasts are capable of running at 220v before ya buy a controller. some only run @ 120v.

no doubt thanks. i gotta move around the washer and dryer which is kinda hard to do so i can see what connection im dealin with. i gotta run around for a little while but il check in with you about this after i look in to everything

 

[iampolluted]

if you are running the dryer, like most people usually do, you're gonna want to put in a junction box and run a new outlet for the dryer or controller. you won't want to have to move the dryer every time you want to use it, or to keep your lights on. you'd end up with 2 220v outlets, and you'd only be able to use the dryer when the lights are off, and vice versa. just thought i'd include that because it will be a factor.

 

[TREE KING]

thanks iampolluted i gotta run out for a few il touch base with you later

 

[TribalSeeds]

this is exactly what im gonna do then. i just gotta do some research and figure out how to do it thanks iampolluted

for other people talkin shit. isnt it nice to be on the internet and not have to deal with the consequences of talkin shit. whoever talks shit on the internet try saying that to someones face instead of hiding behind a computer screen. you all are some fuckin pussys i wasnt even talkin to you clowns or talkin shit to anyone in the first place than you all start runnin your mouths. its all good keep hiding behind the computer screen. i havent talked shit to anyone in this thread.

I told you to do exactly that 4 or 5 pages back and you told me to get out of here... Just sayin...

The fuck?
What kind of timer(s) are you using for your lights? Youre going to need to get yourself a light controller!
Youre not really going to run 2 ac's are you? Theyre both portables?
Respect man! That takes balls!View Image

 

[greenmatter]

this is exactly what im gonna do then. i just gotta do some research and figure out how to do it thanks iampolluted

for other people talkin shit. isnt it nice to be on the internet and not have to deal with the consequences of talkin shit. whoever talks shit on the internet try saying that to someones face instead of hiding behind a computer screen. you all are some fuckin pussys i wasnt even talkin to you clowns or talkin shit to anyone in the first place than you all start runnin your mouths. its all good keep hiding behind the computer screen. i havent talked shit to anyone in this thread.

if you start listen to good advice, and not doing things that are dangerous to both yourself and everyone who lives in your building i promise you i will stop "talking shit"

if you are ever in denver we should sit down and burn one together i think you would be more than happy to go back home where you can just shut the computer off

 

[Lammy]

this is exactly what im gonna do then. i just gotta do some research and figure out how to do it thanks iampolluted
for other people talkin shit. isnt it nice to be on the internet and not have to deal with the consequences of talkin shit. whoever talks shit on the internet try saying that to someones face instead of hiding behind a computer screen. you all are some fuckin pussys i wasnt even talkin to you clowns or talkin shit to anyone in the first place than you all start runnin your mouths. its all good keep hiding behind the computer screen. i havent talked shit to anyone in this thread.

treeking i think that is a good idea. I've never used a premade lighting controller. I believe they sell them with all sorts of different options. I'm pretty sure you can buy them ready to plug in with both 110 and 220 volt receptacles for your ballasts. I'm pretty sure I've seen some sold with extra receptacles that you can probably power your AC off of. or maybe not if you said it was a 30 amp circuit.

some basic electrical safety tips that you should know before you start this.
anytime you make an electrical connection. first twist the wires together then use wire nuts to connect the wires and electrical tape to tape those on. put all electrical connections inside of a sealed enclosure preferrably metal. then the wires need to be secured so that if they somehow get snagged or pulled on the connection won't come loose. a lot of time there is a screw down wire clamp that comes on(or should be added to) junction boxes and sub panels or hard wired lighting controllers.

all of that is to protect from the sparks that are caused by the 2 wires touching each other and shorting out. those sparks (or 'contact arc' are supposed to be capable of burning at about the temperature of the sun so it's really easy for them to start a fire.

you mentioned that there is the high average outlet very near your room. would you be able to have the ballasts in that room as well? having the ballast in that room can help control garden temperature as well as make it easier to wire or choose which controller you want.

good luck.
Lammy