Nutrients and Additives (UK)

[Harry Lime]

thanks Jaded & narstie,

So with this bulk, powdered citric acid, do you add it to the rez as dry powder or dilute it first?

Canna nitric's getting harder to find. wonder if they're discontinuing.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

GHE do a blended Nitric / Phosphoric that iirc has good buffering qualities, citric is meant to be very bad/ or simply stops for whatever reason.

I like the Growth Technology (Phosphoric) pH- .. Always works fine, and is very concentrated. 1ml in 10 litres here, the Hypro brand I just got as a substitute needs 3ml per 10, the GHE is likewise a lot weaker than the GT.

 

[Harry Lime]

GHE do a blended Nitric / Phosphoric that iirc has good buffering qualities, citric is meant to be very bad/ or simply stops for whatever reason.

I like the Growth Technology (Phosphoric) pH- .. Always works fine, and is very concentrated. 1ml in 10 litres here, the Hypro brand I just got as a substitute needs 3ml per 10, the GHE is likewise a lot weaker than the GT.

Do you run phosphoric in both veg and bloom?

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Do you run phosphoric in both veg and bloom?

Yes, until I have a proper research setup where I can properly run side by side tests, i stick with simple solutions that work. If Canna do not make any recommendations about running Nitric in Veg and Phosphoric in F, then I am happy to continue as is and investigate what seem more useful routes. All our nutrient products are best guess compromises aimed to work with a wide variety of tapwater, luckily weed is a generally tolerant, easy to grow plant and we all can get away with a certain amount of "close enough" and still harvest nice bud.

Also, results vary from grow to grow and between plants, I just set up some amnesia and Casey Jones, must have done something wrong at one point as the casey sulked (leaves went funny, probably pH, forgot acid one day at a guess) ... But the Amnesia just soldiered on regardless.

 

[JamieShoes]

Canna does actually do a veg (nitric) and flower pH down, but I always just used the bloom...not on seedlings though...


edit: just realised I'm talking nonsense (dont you hate that?) I use the phos to prep coco before seedlings go into it, I just dont pH the first 2 feeds when feeding seedlings...

 

[zooty]

Anyone use GHE 3 part with RO water? That's what I'm experimenting with now

 

[yts farmer]

Do you use 100% ro water?

Use ro water myself but i use a 70% ro and the rest normal tap water.

When i tried out 100% ro found the ph was very unstable so added some tap water to help buffer the ph.

Have you heard of the lucas formula? Thats based on gh 3part neuts and ro water. If you haven't heard of it there will be plenty of information here at icmag, lucas formula is popular other side if the pond.

Peace.

 

[zooty]

thanks buddy i was planning on using 100% ro then using calmag as a buffer should stabilize the ph.

Yeah I read about the lucas formula, but I already bought all 3 parts so gonna run with that for now and just read the plants.. any tips of using ro water appreciated. Do you ph after adding nutes or before?

 

[yts farmer]

I adjust ph after ive added all neuts and any adertives i might be using.

If you go with pure ro water then go extra extra easy on the ph down as it doesn't take much or you'll have a ph range of about 2 or 3.

Peace

 

[oldbean]

I am currently using plant magic old timers organic bloom & was wondering if I am able to use CX superior potash alongside this?

I know my grow won't be organic anymore & I maybe damaging my microherd but has anybody got experience of this?

Thanks in advance

 

[-tempa-]

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Moon shine

Just wondered if anyone has used this product it's new round my way but a couple of us have been using it with great success. . In fact I have a friend running auto pot system with coco canna coco a+b and all the canna range , I am using plant magic oldtimes organic with hydrotops bactivator and moon shine and my growth rate is just as quick as his if not better and I'm soil

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Hey hemp have u tried this yet Bro @hemperor

 

[TastyTrichomes]

hi tempa m8, i havent tried the stuff, so sorry i cant help. Would love to hear from anyone who has tried it tho.

 

[-tempa-]

We will see soon Bro here is a link to my diaryhttps://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=313270 two plants in there 5 weeks veg from seed 1 week into 12/12 looking good and growth rate in veg was awesome but the end product will be the real tester

 

[RudeDog]

Hey all....How do you go about adding silicon? I added 0.5ml to 4.5l of water and the EC shot up.

 

[-tempa-]

Hey all....How do you go about adding silicon? I added 0.5ml to 4.5l of water and the EC shot up.

What silicone you using mate

 

[RudeDog]

Forget I said anything, I've misunderstood the EC meter.

 

[Harry Lime]

I ended up having to use the Canna organic/citric ph down. It made the rez smell like an old canvass tent and had to be adjusted every 2 - 3 days when the nitric keeps things in range for a week. If I turned everything off for an hour, a patch of little bubbles would form on the surface like it was fermenting.

Got some nitric back now. Whats the safe way to dispose of a bottle of acid?

 

[sianhan]

Not 100% on this Harry but go to a field and dig a hole and just pour it in and cover up. Just don't pour down the drain as it will get into the water course.

 

[sianhan]

Actually thinking a bit more on it you could pour it in a larger bottle with some water to dilute it or even some alkaline which I think milk/butter milk is to neutralise it.

 

[-tempa-]

I used my old bottle as weed killer on my patio ..worked a treat ..weeds where dead within half an hour