Nomaad OD:2010

[Trinity Gold]

DO NOT USE EAGLE20 ON CANNABIS IT IS FOR LAWNS AND APPLE TREES YOU ARENT GROWING MEDICINE IF YOU SPRAY YOUR SHIT WITH CHEMS LIKE THIS!!!

I was talkin' about a few different gardens I see and compost tea applications and efficacy and had a line taken out of context by our friend Plough in order to drive the conversation in a completely different direction...My buddies on the blue stew use compost tea foliar sprays and their plants are as big healthy and lush as the 100% og plants...they just spent much less overall and over all in my opinion grow a lesser quality bud even if their plants on the vine seem equal (in brix, no3, K etc.,)

Put an offer down on 200 acres with 1/2 mile of river front today..big things are happening for 2011!!

 

[Yeoman]

Put an offer down on 200 acres with 1/2 mile of river front today..big things are happening for 2011!!

Grats!!

 

[localhero]

Put an offer down on 200 acres with 1/2 mile of river front today..big things are happening for 2011!!

inner tubing and target practice at your house!

 

[Trinity Gold]

Sooo hoping it goes thru

 

[nomaad]

DO NOT USE EAGLE20 ON CANNABIS IT IS FOR LAWNS AND APPLE TREES YOU ARENT GROWING MEDICINE IF YOU SPRAY YOUR SHIT WITH CHEMS LIKE THIS!!!

Put an offer down on 200 acres with 1/2 mile of river front today..big things are happening for 2011!!

I have heard this warning against using eagle 20 on meds in the past. What is the active ingredient?

congrats on the property. sounds beautiful. i'd love a place with year round swimming action. I'm going to dig a pond for next season, but its just not the same as living, running water. Our place in El Honduragua is on a year round rager and I miss it flowing through my life.

DHF: I appreciate the corroboration. Thanks for stopping by.

 

[NorCalMeds]

Things are looking good nomaad, very healthy and huge plants you have going, Would love a cut of that blue dream she's massive. Keep up the work, this season makes me wonder what people have in store for next season. Can the growing get any bigger or are we pushing it's max now. ??

 

[Trinity Gold]

Eagle20 is strobilurin.

Do not use this stuff on your cannabis crop! Kill the shit with the Oxidate you bought, slap the plants with some micronized sulfur from the hardware store, and give yourself some mycostop love.,

Thanks for the congrats, but lets save 'em for if I get the place! Big Plant River BBQ/float/session if I do!

 

[onetime64]

there is a product called rally that is similar to eagle 20 but designed for crops that are consumed quicker..... aka grapes and tomatoes.... you have to have an ag pemit.....

RALLY

i know some grape farmers and they swear by the stuff.....

 

[Ganja D]

Nomad,just wanted to drop in and say thanks for the smoke. The cough is really a great smoke and I'm loving the chem d and sour as well. I prefer chem's and sours over og any day when done right. Nice to see dep done right with some great strains.
So,thanks again. Until next time,we'll be swapping jars soon.

 

[onetime64]

eagle 20 is for ornimental use.... it contains a oil that is no good to smoke....... RALLY has no oil and is safe after 15 days.... i use it in a 35day program... i dip or spray my babies or anything i bring around..... then my last treatment is about 35 days before harvest.....

 

[onetime64]

it is super concentrated.... and u need only 1gram a gallon....... PM me if anyone is in die need and cant find some i could spare some.....

 

[nomaad]

Eagle20 is strobilurin.

Do not use this stuff on your cannabis crop! Kill the shit with the Oxidate you bought, slap the plants with some micronized sulfur from the hardware store, and give yourself some mycostop love.,

Oh, I would never even consider something like eagle20. I was just curious to know the active ingredient so that when I am looking at bottles, it'll click that that's something to avoid in other products. Rally doesn't sound any more appetizing.

Onetime64: Grape Mono-croppers should not be our guide on this stuff. I'm trying to keep it as organic as possible and chemical fungicides are 100% out of the question. I'd rather cull the plant.

GanjaD: thanks. That Chem D came out really nice. Looking forward to dialing it in. Can't wait to see what the SD IBL and all the new crosses you have added to the mix will do in next year's black box. The males are outside right now in the natural light cycle... when can I expect to start seeing pollen on them? I am very excited about crossing the 45 day witches weed to the NL5xHaze Cough in hopes of bringing it down to a 9 or 10 week finishing time. I am trying to find time and headspace to read more about what I'm planning and be less of a pollen-chucker, but I'm goin with my gut that these two will make fine parents and that there will be something special to keep from their offspring. I have very limited time on the internet right now which is making it difficult to pursue the research i know I should be doing.

With the abundance of variety in the blackbox fresh in my mind, I am kinda sad about the lack of diversity in the full season harvest. Next year, there will be a well rounded compliment of full season kushes and chems in the mix. It would have been nice to have had a round to put into the black box spaces (as I had discussed doing earlier in the season)... the structure is there to cover it well into november and december... I should have taken advantage... I like to live in the moment, but in the pursuit of growing fine ganja, its all about next season and refining the process and genepool.

Something we discussed over at HLs was the idea that the younger the plant, the better the meds. Been mulling that one over a lot the last few days... The idea that multiple younger plants in large container, planted later in the season will yield higher quality ganja is worming its way into all the angles I am considering. I look forward to seeing how the two paradigms compare in the final analysis over there.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Oh, I would never even consider something like eagle20. I was just curious to know the active ingredient so that when I am looking at bottles, it'll click that that's something to avoid in other products. Rally doesn't sound any more appetizing.

Onetime64: Grape Mono-croppers should not be our guide on this stuff. I'm trying to keep it as organic as possible and chemical fungicides are 100% out of the question. I'd rather cull the plant.

GanjaD: thanks. That Chem D came out really nice. Looking forward to dialing it in. Can't wait to see what the SD IBL and all the new crosses you have added to the mix will do in next year's black box. The males are outside right now in the natural light cycle... when can I expect to start seeing pollen on them? I am very excited about crossing the 45 day witches weed to the NL5xHaze Cough in hopes of bringing it down to a 9 or 10 week finishing time. I am trying to find time and headspace to read more about what I'm planning and be less of a pollen-chucker, but I'm goin with my gut that these two will make fine parents and that there will be something special to keep from their offspring. I have very limited time on the internet right now which is making it difficult to pursue the research i know I should be doing.

With the abundance of variety in the blackbox fresh in my mind, I am kinda sad about the lack of diversity in the full season harvest. Next year, there will be a well rounded compliment of full season kushes and chems in the mix. It would have been nice to have had a round to put into the black box spaces (as I had discussed doing earlier in the season)... the structure is there to cover it well into november and december... I should have taken advantage... I like to live in the moment, but in the pursuit of growing fine ganja, its all about next season and refining the process and genepool.

Something we discussed over at HLs was the idea that the younger the plant, the better the meds. Been mulling that one over a lot the last few days... The idea that multiple younger plants in large container, planted later in the season will yield higher quality ganja is worming its way into all the angles I am considering. I look forward to seeing how the two paradigms compare in the final analysis over there.

that's interesting, i have always been led to believe the opposite is true. ie a lot of people make fun of indoor sog growing for that reason. i have read many respected people on IC mag say that the longer the veg phase the more potent the medicine should be. isn't that also one of the reasons we take a clone off a seed plant to flower it indoors? so the plant is fully mature when it gets forced into 12/12.

are you talking about out doors only? how did this idea come about? you still mean to grow trees i guess, just not quite so big? please elaborate further...how long of a veg phase would you be aiming for?

 

[Trinity Gold]

Rally is even worse. FWIW....

Nonorganic grapes are the NASTIEST food you can eat...Most pesticide / fungicide by weight than almost any other crop...

 

[onetime64]

i have used rally for a while now and my end product has been tested by 2 diffrent repertable labs.... with zero traces found at the end...... explain this please.......

 

[Trinity Gold]

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC120

The effective ingredient in Rally [mycobutanil] goes to work on the male reproductive system and kills fish , amphibians , and zooplankton...FWIW..

Please if you could post these independent lab analysis of your cannabis product and tell me where I can get mine tested I'd be glad to put my organic product head to head with yours sprayed with products from Dow Agro 35 days in to bloom.. Big love.. D

 

[plough]

finally I put TG on ignore. I'm pretty sure I'm on his ignore too. Let's pick up where we left off, eh?

super sorry about busting ur stones so much, maad'. just trying to keep u on ur toes. Hey, fuck u and ur budporn! If u can't smoke it, what's it to ya? Lolololol...

 

[onetime64]

Steep Hill does testing for growers... contact them i will have lad results up soon need to get them from collective....

 

[humboldtlocal]

Steep Hill has a real poor reputation in the industry. If you are looking for a very credible lab in the Bay Area this is who I use for all my testing.
http://collectivewellness.org/

Thanks again for the visit Nomaad. It was a pleasure having you up to the farm. Hope to see you again soon.

 

[Madrus Rose]

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC120

The effective ingredient in Rally [mycobutanil] goes to work on the male reproductive system and kills fish , amphibians , and zooplankton...FWIW..

Please if you could post these independent lab analysis of your cannabis product and tell me where I can get mine tested I'd be glad to put my organic product head to head with yours sprayed with products from Dow Agro 35 days in to bloom.. Big love.. D

Thats a good link , much detailed info there ....of course its great to c Tom , Butte , Nomad , HumboldtL & others set the standard for doing these epic projects & putting in the time to stay ontop of these problems that inevitably crop up . And share their experiences here with these "do least harm" organic techniques , so Kudos go to these men .

My indoor use of E20 has been very minimal & only as a preventitive treatment early on before the onset of PM , literally using only a 1/2 tsp to treat an entire 40x40ft room ... & only once no later than 3 wks into flowering . These fungicides are mainly designed to be used as a preventative step always & not an eradicating agent towards the end , & very very low doses . Think will give a call to Dow AG tues after the holiday & c what they have to say & u prolly convinced me to try the potassium/bicarb from now on !

The Old Burgundy & Bordeaux natural copper sulfate sodium carbonate
fungi treatments been used for grapes for a long time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy_mixture

** Just when i see how massive those 14ft tree/giants have gotten for HumbT in the trenches , wholly smokes !! Only hope its a nice warm sunny finish to this season with not too much early morning mist. Know some boys too near the coast lost easily more than 1/2 of their OD to PM & Botrytis the first couple of seasons .