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trichrider

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Planck takes magnetic fingerprint of our Galaxy

6 May 2014
Our Galaxy’s magnetic field is revealed in a new image from ESA’s Planck satellite. This image was compiled from the first all-sky observations of ‘polarised’ light emitted by interstellar dust in the Milky Way.

Light is a very familiar form of energy and yet some of its properties are all but hidden to everyday human experience. One of these – polarisation – carries a wealth of information about what happened along a light ray’s path, and can be exploited by astronomers.

Light can be described as a series of waves of electric and magnetic fields that vibrate in directions that are at right angles to each other and to their direction of travel.

Usually, these fields can vibrate at all orientations. However, if they happen to vibrate preferentially in certain directions, we say the light is ‘polarised’. This can happen, for example, when light bounces off a reflective surface like a mirror or the sea. Special filters can be used to absorb this polarised light, which is how polarised sunglasses eliminate glare.

In space, the light emitted by stars, gas and dust can also be polarised in various ways. By measuring the amount of polarisation in this light, astronomers can study the physical processes that caused the polarisation.

In particular, polarisation may reveal the existence and properties of magnetic fields in the medium light has travelled through.

The map presented here was obtained using detectors on Planck that acted as the astronomical equivalent of polarised sunglasses. Swirls, loops and arches in this new image trace the structure of the magnetic field in our home galaxy, the Milky Way.

In addition to its hundreds of billions of stars, our Galaxy is filled with a mixture of gas and dust, the raw material from which stars are born. Even though the tiny dust grains are very cold, they do emit light but at very long wavelengths – from the infrared to the microwave domain. If the grains are not symmetrical, more of that light comes out vibrating parallel to the longest axis of the grain, making the light polarised.

If the orientations of a whole cloud of dust grains were random, no net polarisation would be seen. However, cosmic dust grains are almost always spinning rapidly, tens of millions of times per second, due to collisions with photons and rapidly moving atoms.

Then, because interstellar clouds in the Milky Way are threaded by magnetic fields, the spinning dust grains become aligned preferentially with their long axis perpendicular to the direction of the magnetic field. As a result, there is a net polarisation in the emitted light, which can then be measured.

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In this way, astronomers can use polarised light from dust grains to study the structure of the Galactic magnetic field and, in particular, the orientation of the field lines projected on the plane of the sky.

In the new Planck image, darker regions correspond to stronger polarised emission, and the striations indicate the direction of the magnetic field projected on the plane of the sky. Since the magnetic field of the Milky Way has a 3D structure, the net orientation is difficult to interpret if the field lines are highly disorganised along the line of sight, like looking through a tangled ball of string and trying to perceive some net alignment.

However, the Planck image shows that there is large-scale organisation in some parts of the Galactic magnetic field.

The dark band running horizontally across the centre corresponds to the Galactic Plane. Here, the polarisation reveals a regular pattern on large angular scales, which is due to the magnetic field lines being predominantly parallel to the plane of the Milky Way.

The data also reveal variations of the polarisation direction within nearby clouds of gas and dust. This can be seen in the tangled features above and below the plane, where the local magnetic field is particularly disorganised.

Planck’s Galactic polarisation data are analysed in a series of four papers just submitted to the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics, but studying the magnetic field of the Milky Way is not the only reason why Planck scientists are interested in these data. Hidden behind the foreground emission from our Galaxy is the primordial signal from the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB), the most ancient light in the Universe.

The brightness of the CMB has already been mapped by Planck in unprecedented detail and scientists are now scrutinising the data to measure the polarisation of this light. This is one of the main goals of the Planck mission, because it could provide evidence for gravitational waves generated in the Universe immediately after its birth.

In March 2014, scientists from the BICEP2 collaboration claimed the first detection of such a signal in data collected using a ground-based telescope observing a patch of the sky at a single microwave frequency. Critically, the claim relies on the assumption that foreground polarised emissions are almost negligible in this region.

Later this year, scientists from the Planck collaboration will release data based on Planck’s observations of polarised light covering the entire sky at seven different frequencies. The multiple frequency data should allow astronomers to separate with great confidence any possible foreground contamination from the tenuous primordial polarised signal.

This will enable a much more detailed investigation of the early history of the cosmos, from the accelerated expansion when the Universe was much less than one second old to the period when the first stars were born, several hundred million years later.

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/S...anck_takes_magnetic_fingerprint_of_our_Galaxy
 

BrainSellz

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I don't get what your saying who can't hook up in real life, Anyways cut her some slack, everyone has flaws look at you for instance all this education you say you have >>>????
And probably paid on the tax payors dime, cause you probably had no balls to get out there in work .. so you rode the train on others peoples dime
You kind remind me of,,, every time i drive by university and see a 40 - 50 year old still going to school .. To me thats a fucking waste they should line them people up and you know .... cause them clowns really are not doing any good but bringing up the costs to the TAX payor
But for you ,,,, you never used it hahaha in some people's eyes you are a waste of skin
So now your a expert of marijuana growing, a nerd dope head lost in space no wonder you fired up this thread hahaha .

Its coming together WEIRD :laughing:

Made a highlight real. Probably could have highlighted more.

You have blown my mind sir. I still can't believe I just read that.
Sometimes we get so absorbed with ourselves that we get lost on our own path worrying about how someone else is living.

And how do you know those 40-50 year olds you see when your DRiVING by are actually going to school?

This thread is actually fantastic. It touches on many key ingredients.

Mr Fever, i know there is some good in that soul of yours. Have a great day Dr.
 

D. B. Doober

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Good article Trichrider. So they can now tell exactly what matter the light passed through...could help in future, e.g. "mining"/harvesting hydrogen in space.
 

HempKat

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exactly how i feel mr brunch we dont know the half of it yet.primitive man would squat to take a shit which shoots the shit outta yo ass, basicly no wiping needed.we have evolved to the point that we sit up on a toilet seat,which is a very unnatural way to shit.then we cover our hands with paper and shove them up our asses to get out the excess that.we are not getting smarter!

I don't care what position you are in if you got diarrhea there's going to be a need for clean up on isle #2. :mopper:
 

Weird

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I don't get what your saying who can't hook up in real life, Anyways cut her some slack, everyone has flaws look at you for instance all this education you say you have >>>????

When did I ever claim to have an education? How did you make that intellectual conclusion? Did my linguistical acumen cause you to make that faulty assumption?

I graduated high school and didn't finish much more than the first semester at college. I left to work in the computer industry.

Left the corporate world as an executive in 2001 to raise my kids when my wife was no longer able to. Left a very lucrative position with expense account to do so.

Did it on my dime as well.


And probably paid on the tax payors dime, cause you probably had no balls to get out there in work .. so you rode the train on others peoples dime

Once again you go off into some irreverent fantasy land of your own creation to manifest what you wish was true.

I am a real man, I have real integrity, I cannot be bought, I do not betray anyone's humanity for my own expense.

I don't compromise my integrity for gain like a prostitute, one of the reasons I am so particular about the quality of my meds.
You kind remind me of,,, every time i drive by university and see a 40 - 50 year old still going to school .. To me thats a fucking waste they should line them people up and you know .... cause them clowns really are not doing any good but bringing up the costs to the TAX payor

Funny my wife went back to school a few years ago in her 30's. She commented on a few older people in her nursing school.

They were retired fireman and cops who wanted to learn a second career and continue offering public service and a housewife looking to do something now that the kids are gone.

Very interesting to see where you take assumptions and how you let them affect you. Thank you so very much for showing the benefits of wedding atheism & apathy in a wonderful economy of movement. Nice to see your efficient at some things.

But for you ,,,, you never used it hahaha in some people's eyes you are a waste of skin

While the market has change and there has been a law of declining returns in regards to margins I still work in the industry, still make money that I use pay all my own bills, still feed and cloth my kids.
So now your a expert of marijuana growing, a nerd dope head lost in space no wonder you fired up this thread hahaha .

Its coming together WEIRD :laughing:

Once again you make delusional assumptions.

A nerd? I guess, no one says that to my face, I guess because I am under 5'10" but over 200 and while I am not overly active at my age I was when I was 235 @ 10 body fat.

I guess having my one had about 3" wider than the other and both my hands bigger than most people my size MIGHT have something to do with it. Not that I am a bad ass, but if you think that because I can intelligently express my love for humanity that I am some light weight that you walk to shit to in person, well let us just say that doesn't ever happen.

As far as being an expert grower, if I had that kind of ego I wouldn't have the relationship with the plant that I do now.

I am a reluctant cropper and I hate to capitalize on weed, that is just how grateful I am for the healing dynamic it has brought into my life, and that is what I share and I am not afraid to make my stand on that premise alone.

Have I put in my legitimate time doing many things with this plant that has given me a level of expertise? Perhaps, but I think like religion we all do in our own relative way and that if you can bet past difference and embrace diversity you can continue to learn and evolve.

I will say this, as weed goes mainstream I see the bar lowered and it bothers me greatly.

Now I left other industries in the past because the spirit of corruption that the mainstream can lower itself to was something that really turned me off and I refused to take part in it.

Later on in life I realized that refusing to take part in it was one step, and that raising the bar and living by that high mark was what helped influence the dynamic in the other direction.

Do you know how many people who I have challenged to think about stuff they normally don't like to think about only to hear later on, thank you, you helped me see something I needed to see to move forward.

I don't stir the shit to see what happens, I question hearts and minds because I know the responses and how to deal with them, good and bad, because our nature is understandable to that extent.

Hard to come to that understanding without patience, compassion and love, even for someone like you.

Why?

Because while you don't see how you limit your own potential the way you are, I do and ultimately you can't do anything to hurt me, but I do see the potential price you will pay for thinking and acting the way you do.

Even great minds like HST reap their own karma when they sow the seeds of cynicism and disdain for mankind.

I have seen the hands play out too many times to know the odds.

Nam myoho renge kyo buddy you can most certainly use it
 

OranguTrump

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I subscribe to the multiverse line of thought - w/ black holes as the singularities that feed each "uni"verse.

Matter inhaled into black holes is ejected out into new "uni"verse, giving similar expansion as our observable surroundings.
 

mr.brunch

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A lot of religious people assume as well, so let's not " attack " others beliefs again , we got stuck on that one earlier- remember, do unto others as you would have them do unto you
 
thats not an attack its the truth read this thread again,and i said alot ,not all,so include yourself in the latter if it offends you so.to assume is to not believe so you are not a true believer of something if you have to assume its true.
 

mr.brunch

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assume
əˈsjuːm/
verb
1.
suppose to be the case, without proof.
"topics which assume detailed knowledge of local events"
synonyms: presume, suppose, take it, take for granted, take as read, take it as given, presuppose, conjecture, surmise, conclude, come to the conclusion, deduce, infer, draw the inference, reckon, reason, guess, imagine, think, fancy, suspect, expect, accept, believe, be of the opinion, understand, be given to understand, gather, glean; More
 

mr.brunch

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I am not offended in the slightest dude, I have stated before that I don't consider myself as any kind of "-ist "
I was thinking it could offend some people though.
 

Skinny Leaf

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Guess which species is evolving and which species is devolving.

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armedoldhippy

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I would say both are evolving.
But I bet one is thinking " who the fuck invited you to my beach? How about I come to your house and stare at you with an idiot grin?"

i would say that one of them could swim out to sea under its own power & feed itself. which one is better suited for survival? :biggrin:
 

DrFever

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a lot of atheists assume,thats how they came up with their theory

Actually if you want to get technical ,, One fact that concerns some Christians and elates some atheists is that 93 percent of the members of the National Academy of Sciences, one of the most elite scientific organizations in the United States, do not believe in God
 

ghostmade

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Who cares just becuase your a scientist makes them such great thinkers? Lol hell no. They have a different mind.they are trained and condition to think in a certain way.
Also most people who dont believe in god have been either A. Hurt or B. In rebellion.
Few actually come to this belief calm peaceful understanding.
Its all psychological anyways. Lots of people think and act a certain way with out even knowing why.

I say much love and good luck to all. Believers and the non believers alike.
We all deserve to be happy and free of douchebaggery
 
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