NFL 2019-2020

[Bababooey]

Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see what happens with the patriots and brady this offseason, with the upcoming penalties for the sideline videotaping, brady’s possible free agency, maybe even gronk will come back if he feels good after a year away, like jason witten did last year?

Bengals will grab Joe burrow from LSU with the #1 overall pick, Tua from alabama is leaving and Miami might draft him at #5 overall, even coming off a hip fracture they might feel he's worth it if he can stay healthy (big if). Dude might not even play at all next season, wherever he ends up, or won't play till like week 12 or so at the earliest im thinking.
Fromm from Georgia is leaving, so he might be there when Oakland picks at #12. Herbert from Oregon has run out of college eligibility and people think the chargers might draft him at #6, he's got a Pac12 fanbase so spanos (fuck that guy, btw) might want to keep him on the left coast. There’s this qb from Utah, jordan love, who might be a good pro, maybe Indy will go for him at #13 or Tampa at #14.
U make a great point, Pop, that Washington and the giants have their QBs of the future so could trade down. I also think it’s possible Washington could pull an Arizona and use 1st rd picks in consecutive years for a QB; Dwayne haskins has some good plays but overall showed he’s still very raw and no sure thing; if the ‘Skins think someone like Tua or Herbert has much more potential they could jettison haskins (maybe the bears will give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him?) and roll with another rookie QB in 2020.

I fear the line between gambling expert and gambling degenerate is a fine one, Joe. But I welcome your opinions nevertheless. After all, a good portion of NFL fandom is driven by gambling interest. And fantasy football is just another form of gambling.

I hear you, a parlay that nets you only a 50% return is tough to swallow, and all it takes is one upset win to lose that money. Having to win more than 2 parlays to make up for losing 1 parlay is a formula that screams ‘break even at best, winning in the long run unlikely, losing in the long run most likely’.
But what about a 4 game parlay with the 49ers, Ravens, Chiefs and Packers winning outright? What are some good gambling sites to look up prospective parlays?
One ‘expert’ has a parlay of minny, ravens and Texans (all money line bets) returning $1230. I mean, a 1200% return, assuming all 3 teams cover the spread? Eassssyyyy money. Heh, im starting to sound like a gambling degenerate myself. “It was a sure thing! I swear!”

Who does everyone have winning this weekend? I’ll roll with niners over Vikings, packers over seahawks, chiefs over texans and ravens over Titans, all home teams. As to point spreads, niners favored by 7, packers by 4.5, chiefs by 9.5 (!), and ravens by 8.5 (also !).
Im thinking chiefs and ravens won’t win by that much, titans D is fairly stout and their O, with Derrick Henry trucking people, is pretty potent and can grind it out as well at the ravens do. Chiefs D isn’t that great and I think Deshaun Watson could score enough to keep it close. Niners D hasn’t really been dominant the last month of the season, theyre probably healthier now but the Vikings have some real talent on offense, and adam thielen could be fully recovered from his hamstring injury; although I think he got a cut on his ankle in practice this week that needed stiches, he’ll still play though. Packers I could see winning by more than 4.5, the hawks shut down a hobbled eagles team, also wentz missed almost that whole game after a dirty hit by jadaveon clowney. Seattle’s D hasn’t been good most of the year, they wont be able to keep Rodgers, jones and adams in check like they did the eagles.
What’s the return on a money line parlay of Vikings, packers, Texans and titans, Joe?


Also, about chargers fans paying to see Brady, there are hardly any left, Joe. They pretty much stopped following the team when it moved to LA/Carson City. Now every home game for the team is like an away game, there are more fans of the opposing team than there are chargers fans.

 

[G.O. Joe]

What are some good gambling sites to look up prospective parlays?

This is what google says of sites with odds and calculators.

http://www.donbest.com/calculator/parlay-calculator
https://www.actionnetwork.com/betting-calculators/parlay-calculator
https://www.vegasinsider.com/parlay-calculator
https://www.oddsshark.com/tools/parlay-calculator
https://www.vsin.com/betting-resources/parlay-calculator

It depends on the book but it's something like 100/1 for those 4 teams. 3 dogs will do that.

Good chance the favorites all win but I don't like the odds of them all on a parlay, or covering ATS. They're all capable of over and underperforming. Baltimore has a history of overperforming (9-1 ATS L10, KC right behind) so they're most likely to win it all, although I've been putting money on SF, TN, and KC all year.

Shit - the spread for Clemson is getting smaller.

 

[Bababooey]

Well, I would have lost that parlay on the weekend's first game. 49er's dominated the vikings, especially in the 2nd half, and won by 17 (the line was 7). So if I'd bet minny to lose by less than 7 (or win outright) I would have kissed my money goodbye.



Titans not only covered but won handily against the ravens (ravens were favored by 10, lost by 16). Kind of surprising that they laid an egg like that, lamar had 2 picks and a lost fumble, ravens were down 14-0 in the 1st half and abandoned the run after that, think lamar had 39 pass attempts in the 2nd half alone (!). Lamar led the league with 36 passing td's but works best as a low volume, high efficiency passer. He threw td's on something like 8% of his passes this year, and the team broke the record for most rushing yards in a season with around 3300. Greg roman, the ravens off coordinator, is supposedly someone who might get a head coaching job soon for his work turning lamar into an mvp this season, but this last game his playcalls were a real head-scratcher. It's like when he was OC when kaepernick and the 49ers were in the superbowl in 2012-13, they had it at the goal line at the end of the game and threw 4 straight pass attempts into the end zone, converted none and lost. He'll stick with the run and rack up a bunch of wins, but abandon it at the biggest moments.



Im still rolling with chiefs over texans (with texans losing by less than 10) and packers over hawks (with hawks losing by more than 4).



Joe, I calculated my parlay odds at one site and came up with a 135:1 return on a ML parlay of vikes, packers, texans, titans. A sweet return but alas one i would have lost right away, as i mentioned before. That sucks, losing a parlay with the very first game. But i suppose losing it with the last game of the parlay is its own special kind of disappointment too.

 

[SwabianExtracts]

Anyone on the game atm? What a shootout! I can't believe what I am seeing there

 

[Bababooey]

I had the game on in the background while puttering around the house. Saw KC fall behind 24-0 in the 1st quarter, thought well there's going to be another huge upset (after ravens got dominated by the titans), then went about my business. Checked the score in the 3rd and was shocked to see the chiefs up 28-24. Kept an eye on the score and saw the chiefs continue piling on points, and won 51-31. After falling behind 24-0, they outscored the texans 51-7 the rest of the way. Insane. Like Pop says, Mahomes is playing like his hair is on fire.

 

[armedoldhippy]

aint got a dog in this fight, but...what do you folks think of the spot on the 1st down late that gave the W to Green Bay? make it, short, or maybe short but did not see enough to overturn despite questions in my mind? probably gave away my vote there, huh?

 

[GOT_BUD?]

I think Jones's touchdown was a worse call. And that's coming from a Packer fan.

 

[pop_rocks]

happening fellas'
it was another crazy weekend of playoff football and we arent done yet!
kc pulled off one of the biggest turn arounds ive ever seen and the titans are climbing mount Rush' more
i could not believe how tennisee handed it to the titans
l.jackson had one of the best seasons only to be bottled up by the titans defense
it dident help that his timing was all off and he just could not hook up with his receivers; part of it was his fault but i would also say he was hitting guys in the hands a lot and they still couldent reel those balls in
but you have to give it up for the tennissee defense and the way they kept him in check
/this is the second year in a row that b'more falls in their first post season game
pat mahomes might just be one of the best rising qbs in the game
behind by 4 scores in the first half the chiefs were able to rally and ended up scoring on like four drives in a row (or somethign like that)
lets not forget the kc defense in this one; andy reid had his team fired up in the second half
so far im totally diggin this post season with all the upsets and new teams making waves!
packers v 9ers and chiefs v the hot tennissee titans! its going to be a great weekend of playoff football
we will see what this years draft looks like but i think a few teams are going to be shopping for a new qb
other than a few blue chip passers, who else do you guys see as being top-10 material?
/i hear ohio state has another stud pass rusher
hope everyone had a great weekend of football and are all set for the final game to determine who is going to the big show

got any plans for the superbowl baba? the mrs said we should put together a spread and maybe invite some fiends* over for the game!
/*actually meant to type friends but im going to let the play stand!
most likely it will just be me and the mrs and maybe a couple close buddies, but im all about the game so that works for me
/the mrs might invite some of her friends over as well
hope you had a great weekend brother and are all set for the championship games

 

[Bababooey]

Why do the refs always blow calls in packers-seahawks games?
Pete Carrol certainly wasn’t happy with the first down ruling, it basically ended the game for the hawks (packers ran out the clock), he got about as upset as ive ever seen him, punching the air in disgust after listening to the ref.
Fwiw, if they did pull out the win I give the hawks more of a chance against the niners than green bay, they played them twice this year, losing one and winning one, both games being very close, whereas in the one game with the pack the niners destroyed them.

Before getting hurt, mahomes was on pace for season like he had last year, maybe not 50tds but close. He’s setting new standards for what to expect out of the QB position; even guys like marino, brady and peyton, they had their one fantastic year but never really got close to those numbers again, even though they had many very good years. We’ll see if Tennessee is able to keep the ball away from mahomes with their run game; they actually beat the chiefs earlier this season.

Chase young of ohio state is supposedly better than either bosa was for them, and those guys went in the top 4. Young will probably go to the redskins at #2 overall, since they already have a young QB in haskins.

Ur right pop, the ravens receivers dropped too many passes from lamar. Not sure why they played so flat against Tennessee, but give the titans credit, even though theyre a 6 seed theyre not playing like it. And derrick henry is the first player in nfl history to run for 180+ yds in 3 straight games (he had 200yrds in the last game of the regular season). So he’s been running his like hair is on fire, if I can steal some of your vernacular.

I’ll probably just order a pizza for the big game, Pop, maybe ill splurge and get giordanos. I had pizza (dominos, cheap but not bad) for the college national championship game and enjoyed the game even though I was rooting for Clemson; LSU won by 17pts so they easily covered the spread.

 

[pop_rocks]

happening baba'
hope you are having a great week and are getting all set for a great sunday of football
nothing wrong with take out pizza, the mrs like pap johns and like like the hut' but dominoes isnt bad pizza for the price
sometimes we splurge on better places, like ny giant pizza or knock out pizza; smaller pizza joints you know
here is a place called filliepes pizza that i used t get but they have been off their game the last few times we got them
they cost more than the smaller joints (the ny giant and k.o. pizza) but it was worth it
/you would spend like $20something for a large pie but it was totally worth it
now they skimp on their cheese and the toppings dont seem as fresh
with a coupon i can score two big pizzas from knock out for a little under $30; usually their hells kitchen pizza 9think a combo pizza with everything on it) and a white or margarite pizza for the mrs
not bad
yeah im hearing a lot of good things about chase young and will have to do some scouting of my own
i think you are spot on about tenissees game plan against the chiefs, control the clock and keep the ball away from mahomes
kc's run defense has been pretty soft this year and d'bo (d.henerry) has been running wild all season
/his playoff running has been off the charts and his hair is truely on fire! brother
cant wait for the weekend to get here and the games to begin

 

[Bababooey]

Yeah the week's going by alright, can't believe it's 2020. A new decade already, seemed like it wasnt that long ago that it was 2010 and the bears were pretty decent most years...


Yeah, like most cheap fast food, dominos tastes pretty good when it's hot and fresh but reheating it for leftovers is iffy, although i did put a couple old slices into the air fryer last night and they actually came out decent, even the woman thought it was good.
That's the thing with almost any restaurant, whether it's fast food or fine dining, the taste of the food almost always comes down to the cook they have working. If it's some person who could care less about their job and/or is inexperienced, youre gonna get some pretty nasty food, cold, poorly cooked, tastes off, etc. With a cook that does it right, your food should at least be good representation of what they offer, whether it's a dollar burger or a fifty dollar steak.



Gioradano's stuffed deep dish pizzas are pretty expensive, just a small cheese one is like $15, and the large specialty ones (with multiple toppings) are $30-35. They are pretty hefty pies though, filled with cheese, and one slice is like the equivalent of 2-3 slices of a thinner crust pizza, so it's not a terrible value. There's also 20% off and $5 coupons often available, and if nothing else on football gamedays (Sun, Mon and Thurs) they'll offer free wings with any large pizza, and their wings are $8 an order and actually pretty good, theyre fried in a deep fryer whereas pizza places like dominos cook their wings in the pizza oven.
I do like a nice white pizza, it's so different than regular pizza with the olive oil and ricotta cheese and no tomato sauce. I think I once tried putting ricotta cheese on some frozen pizzas i had (i like to add extra toppings to frozen pizzas) I should try it again some time, like a lasagna u have to mix the ricotta with egg first.



KC is favored by 7 over TN, and SF is favored by 7.5 over GB. Ill go KC for the win and covering, and ill take SF and the points as well. So KC vs SF for the superbowl, with KC winning the lombardi. How 'bout youse guys, what's your predictions?

 

[GOT_BUD?]

My very first memories are of living in Alameda, just a couple blocks from the beach across the bay from San Francisco. But it wasn't until I moved to Wisconsin that I started watching football.

At that time, it was easy to hate on the Pack because the 80's were a dark time for Packer fans. Year after year of 8-8 or 7-9 seasons. And of course the 9r's were on top of the world with Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Dwight Hicks, Ronnie Lott, etc. So it was easy for me to root for San Fran, even though I rarely got to watch their games.

I had always watched Packer games at friends houses, and eventually became fond of them even through the bad years.

Then a kid named Brett Favre came in for an injured Don Majkowski in 1992, and changed the course of history.

So on Sunday, I'll be rooting for the Packers. Knowing full well they're probably going to get crushed by the 49r's. And I'll be OK with that. (I think Za'darius Smith is going to have a MONSTER game though.)

For the Big Show, I'll be rooting for whoever represents the NFC.

 

[pop_rocks]

those were some hella' good years for the sf49ers bud'
bill walsh will always one of the best coaches of all time and they had talent at almost every position, remember a guy names jerry rice?
montana to rice was a great recipe
the 9ers are red hot this year

i like to think of the white pizza as an adults version of cheese pizza
it has a clear taste and bring a lot of flavor
i like the meat toppings but its nice to mix things up a bit
i hear you about how it felt like the decade flew by
im with you on your pics for this weekend and think both teams will cover the spread
if its a low scoring game the titans might have a chance but i think its going to be a track meet out there in kc and im thinking this game is going to be one of those high scoring games (50+ points at the end)
gb v sf will be closer hopefully but im still putting my money on san fran'
a.rog is goign to put up some points but i think the defense and run game of the 9ers plus jimmy.g will be too much
cant wait for the action
tomorrow we are getting chineese take out and on sunday we were planning on making some pulled chicken sandwiches in the insta'pot
the work week is over and im all about the football this weekend
/so any idea whats the grinds for sunday?
hope you enjoy the games and have a great weekend brother!

 

[Bababooey]

Cool story, Bud. Sorry you had to move from Cali to Wisco, most people make the reverse move, that's why there's so many damn packers fans around the country. They get tired of shoveling their driveway 6 months out of the year so they pack up (get it?) and move to warmer climes.
I knew the 80's werent good to the Packers but 8-8 doesn't sound so bad to me. Of course, the 80s were very kind to the bears, even though it's mostly been downhill ever since.
Yeah, I remember those Favre years, bears were a little more competitive back then so I dont have quite the fear/hatred for him that I do for Rodgers. He was a fun player to watch, slinging that ball all over the field, throwing across his body, throwing into impossibly tight windows, trusting his arm strength to avoid bad results. Like jay cutler only, you know, actually good.
He's still the only player to win league MVP 3 years in a row. If he had started playing in 2010 or later, when they started protecting QBs and WRs more, i feel like he could have had 600 tds easy (brees has the record at 547, favre has 508). People rave about mahomes's arm strength, and dude does have a howitzer, but favre's arm was just as strong imo.
Niners crushed the Pack 37-8 earlier this season. I'd say both teams are different now, niners D isn't quite as dominant now, Packers seem to have gotten more comfortable with lafleur's offense and the idea that it's the other Aaron, Jones not Rodgers, who's the key to making it work. Still, even though rodgers grew up in Cali, and still lives there in the offseason, everytime he plays there the results are subpar. Two weeks before the niners game he played at the chargers and threw for a season low 161yds with 1 td, pack lost 26-11. It's like california is his kryptonite.



Heh, white pizza is like the adult version of a plain cheese pizza, i like that analogy. Throw some fresh basil on top after cooking, it becomes very 'growns up'.
Speaking of the goat Jerry rice, larry fitzgerald is coming back for a 17th year. He's the one guy who might have broken some of rice's receiving records, if he hadn't played with sucky QBs for like half his career.
As it stands now, the closest he comes is he's about 170 receptions behind rice for his career, he's averaged 70 receptions each of the last 2 years so doubtful he makes it unless he plays 3 more seasons, till he's 39. Rice played until he was 41 but he's obviously an outlier. I see Fitz playing maybe 1 more year after this next one but that's it. Then again, maybe he'll stick around for the money. The Cards are paying him 11M/year - the last 4 years he's played on one year, 11M deals. That's an overpay for the last 2 years, but i guess it's more of a legacy/veteran leadership contract now. As long as he doesnt get seriously injured and feels good, why not continue to work and get paid 700k every gamecheck? There's plenty of time to golf when he's retired.



I just had some chinese takeout today, Pop, general tso's chicken, not bad, fried rice was kind of dry tho. Ill probably get a burger and fries, or maybe tacos for sunday? Not sure i want pizza again, maybe ill save that for the superbowl in 2 weeks. There's this asian pork butt recipe i want to try so if i swing by the grocery tomorrow may give that a whirl on sunday. Let me know how ur crockpot pulled chicken turns out, i think youve made this a lot before, for tacos mostly? You use bone in chicken, or boneless skinless meat?

 

[pop_rocks]

we usually get the bone in chicken
you can get some good deals on the thighs or breast and once it cooks down the meat just falls off the bone
you are right, we make the pulled chicken/ pork quite a bit i guess
its super easy to make in the insta pot and you can change the flavor up just by using different sauces, i tihnk we are going to roll with the bbq this weekend
it would also be bomb with that gardinera mix with its slight tang from the vinegar
if pork butt is on sale we might get that
is this one of those red chineese bbq type things?
if you do make the asian pork, let us know how it turns out
i could see fitz playing another year or two, especially if kyler murray continues to shine and they can add a few more pieces to the team
one of the things that made rice so great was his conditioning and it looks like fitzy is in great shape
cant wait for the games tomorrow and hope your weekend is off to a great start brother!

 

[Bababooey]

Is it the insta-pot you use or the crockpot? I know the insta-pot can also be used for slow cooking so I guess you use the term interchangeably. I've never used the insta-pot for anything other than pressure cooking though maybe i should change that...
Every time ive cooked chicken in the slow-cooker it's always been really soft with lots of juice in the pot. What sort of seasonings/sauce do you throw in there? Years ago id just throw some bbq sauce and ketchup into the crockpot with some cut up chicken and made a nice slow cooked bbq chicken dish. It's not really like bbq chicken cooked in the smoker or on the grill of course, since it's so soft, but it tastes good and i suppose you can always throw it in a frying pan to crisp it up a bit if u want some chewiness or crunch to it.



The pork butt recipe is from the NY times and the dish is called Bo Ssam. I think this version is different than the traditional way it's made but supposedly it's fire. Seems pretty simple to make, only need 4 ingredients for the main dish (salt, sugar, brown sugar, pork shoulder or picnic ham) although the dipping sauces require more specialized asian type ingredients.
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/12197-momofukus-bo-ssam


If you look at the notes/comments of the webpage you'll see a lot of useful tips. Like one person didnt want to run their oven for 6 hrs in the summer and used a slow cooker instead and then finished it in the oven for browning. Also adding apple cider vinegar to the salt/sugar rub helped keep it from falling off. Im eager to try it and will post results!


Yeah, i think Rice recently said he could still play in the NFL, and seeing him on tv as a commentator he still looks like he has the same body type as he did when playing. Fitzy has been able to avoid injuries so keeping sharp physically hasnt been an issue for him. Maybe he can play till he's 40 too. Darrell Green played cornerback for the redskins into his 40s, i think he still was one of the fastest players in the league when he was 40. So it's not unheard of that a speed/skill position guy can play effectively into their 40s.
We'll see what happens with the games tomorrow, hope the games are exciting either way!

 

[SwabianExtracts]

Anyone on the games tonight?
King Henry doing it again...just crazy.
No way they can beat Kansas right?

 

[pop_rocks]

happening guys! hope everyone had a great weekend
the football was off the hook for the most part and we got to see two fun games

that was a tough loss for the titans sawb', but tenneessee is now a team to keep an eye on and we will see how they do next next season

i hear you about j.rice being in great shape
did you see rice during the 9ers game? he looked great for a guy of his age
it looked like the titans got off to a good start and were playing their kind of football but mah'hommie took the chiefs and put that team on his back!
same thing as last week, he just turns things up to another level and wins games
the big improvement i saw was in the chiefs D
they were able to bottle up t'train (t.henery) and limit him to almost no yards in the 2nd half
their defensive front was playing like gorillas and the secondary was patrolled by one mean honey badger!
/did you see some of those licks he was handing out?
the only defense playing with more intensity is san fran
i was kind of let down by the pack and a.rodgers
i think he is a great qb and no doubt hof all the way
but man the niners just made the packers look bad in a lot of ways
they whole team was held in check and they had no anwsers to the 9ers Offense or defense
this is going to be one heck of a super bowl!
yeah man, its the insata-pot shes been using
i guess its kind of like a slow cooker/crock pot, pressure cooker type thing but it really gets the job done
one reason she likes it so much is if replaces like 4 kitchen things and it does all those thigns well
i was even telling a lady at work about it and she got all mad (in a funny way) because it cooked better rice than her $200 zoroshhi rice cooker
hope you ate good this past weekend during the games brother but be sure to save some room for the main course; we got one hell of a super bowl brewing!

 

[Bababooey]

Yeah Swabian, when TN jumped out to a 10pt lead early i thought maaayybbeee they have a chance, keep running the ball with a lead, keep mahomes on the sideline, play solid D (they shut down the patriots and ravens). But like pop said, mahomes did mahomes-like things and ate up that lead before halftime, just like he did last week. He reminds me of the warriors with durant, a team could be up 10pts on them and in 5 mins the warriors would flip that lead around and they would be up 10pts (20pt swing). Get a stop, hit a 3, get a stop, hit another 3, repeat. For KC it's like get a stop, score a TD, get another stop, score another TD. Just amazing.
KC beat the spread (won by 11, favored by 7) and the O/U too (total score was 59pts, O/U was 51). Same with SF-GB, SF won by 17 (favored by 8) and the O/U was 48 (57pts were scored). Whose bets panned out with these numbers?


I think a lot of ex-athletes keep in shape, theyre so used to exercising that it becomes habit, especially if theyre on tv a lot theyre motivated to not get fat. Except some basketball players, shaq and charles barkley got fat, but they struggled with weight gain during their playing days as well.


GB had a 13 win season and made the NFL final four but yeah, SF seems to have their number, like they did during the kaepernick-harbaugh years. They got run over by the niners rushing game, mostert had 200+yds and 4tds. I think kaepernick once had 150+yds rushing against them in the playoffs which was a single game QB record (maybe since broken by lamar). But rodgers seemed optimistic, theyre winning again, just have to get over this last hump and maybe he can win another title for Titletown.


We've only ever used the instapot for pressure cooking, we'll have to check it out for rice making and slow cooking, Pop.
We have to wait a whole 2 weeks before the big game. What should we do in the meantime? Talk shit about each other's teams?

 

[Jellyfish]

The secret to good chicken is Sage, Bababooey.