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Getting Spider Mites drunk on whiskey..then naming them = priceless 
Having the plants lay aroung the house drinking soda all day is not the answer..
Having the plants lay aroung the house drinking soda all day is not the answer..
hehe, I'm hoping to go from :friends: to 
with those mites. They don't suspect a thing.
OK here come the seeds: (and so, so many seeds)
You can see they are less at the top but still there where I didnt want them. That'll teach me to spray a bit after pollinating them rather than just letting the pollen sit there.
I like this plant, so since numbers are low at the mo, (1 male 1 female 1 seedling (which I'll introduce over the next few days at some point)) I decided I had room (and would like) a cutting. So I pulled out all the seed growth sites (as that really takes it out of a plant) and it is sitting in wet soil as we speak, without a dome this time as that causes mold for me, well the plant.
with those mites. They don't suspect a thing.OK here come the seeds: (and so, so many seeds)
You can see they are less at the top but still there where I didnt want them. That'll teach me to spray a bit after pollinating them rather than just letting the pollen sit there.
I like this plant, so since numbers are low at the mo, (1 male 1 female 1 seedling (which I'll introduce over the next few days at some point)) I decided I had room (and would like) a cutting. So I pulled out all the seed growth sites (as that really takes it out of a plant) and it is sitting in wet soil as we speak, without a dome this time as that causes mold for me, well the plant.
lol GMT i didnt know you were an adult film producer
GL with the mites bro, took me forever to win that battle. What won it for me was 1tokes super simple Mite Erradicator mix.... I hasseled with neem for awhile.... every 7days they would be back (neem doesnt kill the eggs).
GL with the mites bro, took me forever to win that battle. What won it for me was 1tokes super simple Mite Erradicator mix.... I hasseled with neem for awhile.... every 7days they would be back (neem doesnt kill the eggs).
Wacky Tobacky
Active member
very nice GMT
Hi BT, good to have you stop by again, I love to capture those intimate moments on film. I did discuss 1tokes explosive solution to mites in the chat room, but there seemes to be some ingredients that are called bu different names on each side of the pond, and I couldnt work out what some of them were called over here. Then I forgot what I was even trying to work out. I'll do a search and try to find the recipe listed somewhere and try again. Thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten there was a household recipe for mitey fireworks. Last year winter eventually solved the problem for me, hoping I dont have to wait that long again this year. I'll get searching.
High wacky, those damn ghosts keeping eating me, I'll never get your high score on that one.
High wacky, those damn ghosts keeping eating me, I'll never get your high score on that one.
GOOD NEWS/BAD NEWS TIME
I found the thread and recipe, and that 1toke is no longer here . Most re-signed up after POM arrived and left, guess 1 toke hasn't got around to it yet. Hope he does.
I copied his post, here it is
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Mite Eradictor (also destroys Powdery Mildew)
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http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....0864#post270864
For those not liking links, here's the basic text:
This kills 'em and the eggs:
http://oregongreenfree.com/forums/i...?showtopic=8038
"So far one formula has come out ahead and there are some instruction changes:
1/4 cup Baking Soda
1/2 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice
2 drops dish detergent
1/4 Teaspoon Epsom Salts
Take a cup of very hot water and desolve the epsom salts,take rest of ingredients and place in a clean 2 liter bottle and let work out. Add epsom solution. Add water to fill to 48ozs(3/4 full).Shake well.
TO USE: Cover soil/medium with plastic,with lights off mist plant all over,especialy under leaves,
Wait 20 mins,then spritz off with clean fresh water shaking as much water off plant as you can.
The fresh water spritz rinse will remove the solution along with the desolved remains of the mites and their eggs.
Have fun with your new "Mite Eradicator"
Note by MrFixit: Water plants 1/2 hour before spraying. This will help keep your plants from absorbing the spray.
This solution has been tested and used as directed will not burn plants,the rinse is very important though as it removes the spent solution before it can concentrate and burn the plant. It also removes most of the dead mites and eggs so you don't end up smoking them.
The formula can be diluted further,to 1 liter and it will still kill the mites but isn't as effective at dissolving and removing the mite parts.
Since removing the mite debris is desirable,I recommend the stronger solution,just remember to rinse and shake.
This formula is alkaline(about 7.8-8) so please remember to rinse.
Mite irradication is absolutely assured and guaranteed if used as directed.
I've never seen ANYTHING work this well for mite irradication!!
I used to gas my booths for mites,it worked but they came back,I haven't seen a living mite in a long time now.They haven't come back,partly because of cooler weather,partly because I hosed the Roses that were infecting everything with the formula and wiped out all the mites during testing.
The only thing I wish I'd done different is,I wish I would have done sections of the Roses and preserved
some of the mites for later tests.I've had to go searching for victims to test it on and there just aren't any left!! I did find some victims for my final tests in the park where we have meetings,the plants by the river are pretty sickly and infested(were I should say,I walked around with ONE pint bottle and cleaned up most of the area.LOL)
If news of this formula were to become widespread,mites would become an endangered species!!!So GOOD HUNTING !
Seasider"
"PM'd BankRobber and he told me to post this:
I have been experimenting with similar formulas, so far 2 work.
Trial #1: 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 1/2 cup apple juice. Dilute to 2 liters.
Trial #2 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 3 tablespoons lemon juice , 2 drops dish soap .
Dilute to 40 fluid oz's.
I've tried this on: Wandering Jew,Spider Plant,Fushias,Gladiolis,Roses,Sweet Elysium,Clovers,Daisy,
Rhodadendron, Lawn(grass)
So far it works,both formulas. #2 works best outside and best overall
It has killed any small insects I've tried it on except FLEAS(Darn it!)
So far its killed mites,thrips(Adult),aphids,clover mites, whatever mite type insects that were all over the Gladiolis and it sickened and effected Grass Gnats and mosquitoes.(the mist knocked them down,couldn't find them in the grass to watch if they died but they were having difficulty flying)
I'm waiting for long term effects on the plants I've sprayed,before I'll try it on my plants.
Try mixing up some and try it outside on whatever you can find with an infestation.
The original recipe from a Landscape gardener was: 1/2 cup baking soda, 1 cup vinegar,2cups apple peels.
Blend/Puree , filter , dilute to 2 liters. I haven't tried this one yet (no apple peels).
The trick seems to be 1/2 cup Baking soda to 1 cup vinegar,diluted to approximately 2 liters.
The dishsoap helps wetting & the juices boost effect. #2 seems to help with molds/fungus also.It reduced blackspot on Roses,Gladiolis and Rhodi's and white mold on Roses.( The coast is a perfect proving ground for this stuff!!! We have ALL the bugs and molds !!! I don't have to go far to find infestations of all kinds.)
Seasider"
"REPORT:
For 2 days I have hosed my backyard with this stuff,so far it has reduced blackspot & powdery mildew(white mold),killed all the small insects(size seems to matter on kill,gnats or smaller).
The only plants adversely affected so far are FERNS (they don't like it much,wilted some).
The fleas seem unaffected as are the garden spiders,wood lice,beetles and other large hard insects.
I'm using it far more than necessary to see if it hurts the plants. Repeating doses even after the bugs are dead. The gladiolis were REALY bad with blackspot mold and some kind of black sucker insects about the size of a pinhead.The Glads are doing fine both mold and insects gone! The wandering jew and spider plants are actualy perking up from it.The clover mites? WIPED OUT! Rose mites? WIPED OUT! Grass gnats and mosquitoes? VASTLY REDUCED! Scale insects? DEAD! Aphids?DEAD![THE GARDEN??? (smells like a "Caeser Salad" ! ) ALIVE.]
Seasider "
"Hey Everyone,
I think Seasider is onto something and that's it so cool to see people taking action and experimenting with organic ingredients!
I'm certainly going to try his formula!
It cost me over $300 to manufacture what I came up with, and that dose not include all the labor and the over two weeks it take to complete each batch!
Seasider's stuff is a fraction of the cost, and I can't see any adverse reactions from the ingredients mentioned.
Except for invertebrates "the soap" would kill them, but then we don't need it in our fish tank now do we?
A key test will be to see if any eggs rehatch or if the plants are reinvested, however respraying with an inexpensive home made product may be worth it to so many!
I say GREAT job & keep up the good fight!
Please keep us informed of your test. and results!
BankRobber!"
"Report:
There seems to be some mild burning where the solution was left on and collected/concentrated.
I would recommend using the 2 liter dilution and spritzing with fresh water afterward and shaking off as much as possible so the formula doesn't collect and concentrate itself to the point it burns tender leaves.
I didn't notice any damage except where it had concentrated and dried,so spritzing and shaking off should do the trick.As far as effectiveness goes,wow! The death and destruction it deals to mites is impressive !!
Popping browning eggs melting,imploding adults,body parts and debris slowly dissolving......EXTREMELY GRATIFYING !!!
TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT !!
The BORG rule ,of mite terror, is OVER !!!!
WARNING !!
A member had severe burning that he attributes to residues drawn out of the container by the vinegar.
USE A CLEAN CONTAINER !! Do not use realy strong vinegar or any with SULFITES in it.
NO SULFITES"
BOTTOM LINE IS IT WORKS AND THEY DON'T COME BACK
This is a duplicate post in response to a thread, I wanted the info out front for more exposure.
===============================================================
Time for me to go hunting for ingredients now.
I found the thread and recipe, and that 1toke is no longer here . Most re-signed up after POM arrived and left, guess 1 toke hasn't got around to it yet. Hope he does.
I copied his post, here it is
===============================================================
Mite Eradictor (also destroys Powdery Mildew)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....0864#post270864
For those not liking links, here's the basic text:
This kills 'em and the eggs:
http://oregongreenfree.com/forums/i...?showtopic=8038
"So far one formula has come out ahead and there are some instruction changes:
1/4 cup Baking Soda
1/2 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice
2 drops dish detergent
1/4 Teaspoon Epsom Salts
Take a cup of very hot water and desolve the epsom salts,take rest of ingredients and place in a clean 2 liter bottle and let work out. Add epsom solution. Add water to fill to 48ozs(3/4 full).Shake well.
TO USE: Cover soil/medium with plastic,with lights off mist plant all over,especialy under leaves,
Wait 20 mins,then spritz off with clean fresh water shaking as much water off plant as you can.
The fresh water spritz rinse will remove the solution along with the desolved remains of the mites and their eggs.
Have fun with your new "Mite Eradicator"
Note by MrFixit: Water plants 1/2 hour before spraying. This will help keep your plants from absorbing the spray.
This solution has been tested and used as directed will not burn plants,the rinse is very important though as it removes the spent solution before it can concentrate and burn the plant. It also removes most of the dead mites and eggs so you don't end up smoking them.
The formula can be diluted further,to 1 liter and it will still kill the mites but isn't as effective at dissolving and removing the mite parts.
Since removing the mite debris is desirable,I recommend the stronger solution,just remember to rinse and shake.
This formula is alkaline(about 7.8-8) so please remember to rinse.
Mite irradication is absolutely assured and guaranteed if used as directed.
I've never seen ANYTHING work this well for mite irradication!!
I used to gas my booths for mites,it worked but they came back,I haven't seen a living mite in a long time now.They haven't come back,partly because of cooler weather,partly because I hosed the Roses that were infecting everything with the formula and wiped out all the mites during testing.
The only thing I wish I'd done different is,I wish I would have done sections of the Roses and preserved
some of the mites for later tests.I've had to go searching for victims to test it on and there just aren't any left!! I did find some victims for my final tests in the park where we have meetings,the plants by the river are pretty sickly and infested(were I should say,I walked around with ONE pint bottle and cleaned up most of the area.LOL)
If news of this formula were to become widespread,mites would become an endangered species!!!So GOOD HUNTING !
Seasider"
"PM'd BankRobber and he told me to post this:
I have been experimenting with similar formulas, so far 2 work.
Trial #1: 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 1/2 cup apple juice. Dilute to 2 liters.
Trial #2 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 3 tablespoons lemon juice , 2 drops dish soap .
Dilute to 40 fluid oz's.
I've tried this on: Wandering Jew,Spider Plant,Fushias,Gladiolis,Roses,Sweet Elysium,Clovers,Daisy,
Rhodadendron, Lawn(grass)
So far it works,both formulas. #2 works best outside and best overall
It has killed any small insects I've tried it on except FLEAS(Darn it!)
So far its killed mites,thrips(Adult),aphids,clover mites, whatever mite type insects that were all over the Gladiolis and it sickened and effected Grass Gnats and mosquitoes.(the mist knocked them down,couldn't find them in the grass to watch if they died but they were having difficulty flying)
I'm waiting for long term effects on the plants I've sprayed,before I'll try it on my plants.
Try mixing up some and try it outside on whatever you can find with an infestation.
The original recipe from a Landscape gardener was: 1/2 cup baking soda, 1 cup vinegar,2cups apple peels.
Blend/Puree , filter , dilute to 2 liters. I haven't tried this one yet (no apple peels).
The trick seems to be 1/2 cup Baking soda to 1 cup vinegar,diluted to approximately 2 liters.
The dishsoap helps wetting & the juices boost effect. #2 seems to help with molds/fungus also.It reduced blackspot on Roses,Gladiolis and Rhodi's and white mold on Roses.( The coast is a perfect proving ground for this stuff!!! We have ALL the bugs and molds !!! I don't have to go far to find infestations of all kinds.)
Seasider"
"REPORT:
For 2 days I have hosed my backyard with this stuff,so far it has reduced blackspot & powdery mildew(white mold),killed all the small insects(size seems to matter on kill,gnats or smaller).
The only plants adversely affected so far are FERNS (they don't like it much,wilted some).
The fleas seem unaffected as are the garden spiders,wood lice,beetles and other large hard insects.
I'm using it far more than necessary to see if it hurts the plants. Repeating doses even after the bugs are dead. The gladiolis were REALY bad with blackspot mold and some kind of black sucker insects about the size of a pinhead.The Glads are doing fine both mold and insects gone! The wandering jew and spider plants are actualy perking up from it.The clover mites? WIPED OUT! Rose mites? WIPED OUT! Grass gnats and mosquitoes? VASTLY REDUCED! Scale insects? DEAD! Aphids?DEAD![THE GARDEN??? (smells like a "Caeser Salad" ! ) ALIVE.]
Seasider "
"Hey Everyone,
I think Seasider is onto something and that's it so cool to see people taking action and experimenting with organic ingredients!
I'm certainly going to try his formula!
It cost me over $300 to manufacture what I came up with, and that dose not include all the labor and the over two weeks it take to complete each batch!
Seasider's stuff is a fraction of the cost, and I can't see any adverse reactions from the ingredients mentioned.
Except for invertebrates "the soap" would kill them, but then we don't need it in our fish tank now do we?
A key test will be to see if any eggs rehatch or if the plants are reinvested, however respraying with an inexpensive home made product may be worth it to so many!
I say GREAT job & keep up the good fight!
Please keep us informed of your test. and results!
BankRobber!"
"Report:
There seems to be some mild burning where the solution was left on and collected/concentrated.
I would recommend using the 2 liter dilution and spritzing with fresh water afterward and shaking off as much as possible so the formula doesn't collect and concentrate itself to the point it burns tender leaves.
I didn't notice any damage except where it had concentrated and dried,so spritzing and shaking off should do the trick.As far as effectiveness goes,wow! The death and destruction it deals to mites is impressive !!
Popping browning eggs melting,imploding adults,body parts and debris slowly dissolving......EXTREMELY GRATIFYING !!!
TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT !!
The BORG rule ,of mite terror, is OVER !!!!
WARNING !!
A member had severe burning that he attributes to residues drawn out of the container by the vinegar.
USE A CLEAN CONTAINER !! Do not use realy strong vinegar or any with SULFITES in it.
NO SULFITES"
BOTTOM LINE IS IT WORKS AND THEY DON'T COME BACK
This is a duplicate post in response to a thread, I wanted the info out front for more exposure.
===============================================================
Time for me to go hunting for ingredients now.
Keefhead
Active member
GMT - thanks for posting a wealth of good information - especially the mite eradicator information. I got rid of them a while back, and now that I am no longer growing a vegetable garden out back, which attracts them like crazy, I no longer have a problem. Gotta remember to keep US clean, not just the grow area. Kill them little beggars.
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Thanks Keef, although I'm trying to clean up the uk lol.
OK heres the update. Baking soda outside the US is called bicarbonate soda. Asking for baking soda, casues all sorts of questions and funny looks in the uk. I used the 1/4 cup of bicarb to 1/2 cup of malt vinegar, dash of lemon juice and epsom salts. No washing up liquid as it wasnt included in all the recipes listed and no apple peel (diluted to 1.5 litres). The mixture stinks badly. And has a ph of more than 8 (the highest my ph test kit measures). I took the plant out of its home as the hps on wet leaves would have burned them badly. I soaked all the leaves first to minimise what the plant would soak up. Left for 10-15 mins, then sprayed with the solution. Its tricky once you have sprayed with water to know where you have sprayed with the solution as its all already wet. I left the now soaking and stinking plant ( really can't say how stong the smell was), to sit there for a while, maybe 20 mins or so and left the room as I couldnt stand the smell. Then I re-soaked the whole plant from bottom up, then realised that the run off was running back onto the bottom leaves (so I'd start at the top next time). Then shook as much as I could off, destroying a few branches in the process, but only the weakest that dont matter anyway. Blew dry the whole thing with a fan and inspected it. Reports of the mites being instantly disolved are overrated. I found a few still not only there but moving around apparently quite happy. Those leaves were removed that the mite tea parties were being held upon. It's now sitting back in its home. I did the same job on a total of 3 plants. Now it's time to wait and see what the long term effects are. I'll update once I know something.
OK heres the update. Baking soda outside the US is called bicarbonate soda. Asking for baking soda, casues all sorts of questions and funny looks in the uk. I used the 1/4 cup of bicarb to 1/2 cup of malt vinegar, dash of lemon juice and epsom salts. No washing up liquid as it wasnt included in all the recipes listed and no apple peel (diluted to 1.5 litres). The mixture stinks badly. And has a ph of more than 8 (the highest my ph test kit measures). I took the plant out of its home as the hps on wet leaves would have burned them badly. I soaked all the leaves first to minimise what the plant would soak up. Left for 10-15 mins, then sprayed with the solution. Its tricky once you have sprayed with water to know where you have sprayed with the solution as its all already wet. I left the now soaking and stinking plant ( really can't say how stong the smell was), to sit there for a while, maybe 20 mins or so and left the room as I couldnt stand the smell. Then I re-soaked the whole plant from bottom up, then realised that the run off was running back onto the bottom leaves (so I'd start at the top next time). Then shook as much as I could off, destroying a few branches in the process, but only the weakest that dont matter anyway. Blew dry the whole thing with a fan and inspected it. Reports of the mites being instantly disolved are overrated. I found a few still not only there but moving around apparently quite happy. Those leaves were removed that the mite tea parties were being held upon. It's now sitting back in its home. I did the same job on a total of 3 plants. Now it's time to wait and see what the long term effects are. I'll update once I know something.
GMT
Keepin my fingers x'ed that you have the solution ( p.i. ) for your problem. Sounds like you did a thorough job.
The Mite Wars - Episode 2 - General Maximus Thorough soaks his way to miticidal carnage...
Keepin my fingers x'ed that you have the solution ( p.i. ) for your problem. Sounds like you did a thorough job.
The Mite Wars - Episode 2 - General Maximus Thorough soaks his way to miticidal carnage...
Hi MGJ,
I'm not sure that this is a good solution yet. A lot of the leaves have whithered , a few of the mites banded together and rolled some of the smaller ones up into mega phones, listening carefully I could hear them shouting in their little mite voices "more seasoning please". lol
I'm not sure that this is a good solution yet. A lot of the leaves have whithered , a few of the mites banded together and rolled some of the smaller ones up into mega phones, listening carefully I could hear them shouting in their little mite voices "more seasoning please". lol
GMT - ROTFLMAO!!!
Sorry to hear they're still partying it up. What's next on your battle plan?
Sorry to hear they're still partying it up. What's next on your battle plan?
G
Guest
GMT said:
I am not so sure anymore mate... maybe you should try it on just one part of the plant first... so you dont get burned again...
G
Guest
GMT said:
I heard they come from outside by air.... they live in nature normaly, but outdoors they have plenty of natural enemies (1500 ladybugs) , so the balance stays ok. (Dont think about eating them!
)
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WARNING!
My plants are nearly dead. They look like I did use napalm. The seedling will not make it. (The seedling if anyone remembers was the only seed that sprouted from the ill timed first tri x tri) The tri father that was not infected but sprayed as a precaution, is is all shrivelled. The smokey girl no longer has a single pistill not shrivelled. Or a single leaf in nice condition. If anyone knows waht I did wrong shout out. Otherwise I have to say DO NOT USE THAT RECIPE.
I'll get pics when I can face them.
I can't be bothered to look for mites right now.
My plants are nearly dead. They look like I did use napalm. The seedling will not make it. (The seedling if anyone remembers was the only seed that sprouted from the ill timed first tri x tri) The tri father that was not infected but sprayed as a precaution, is is all shrivelled. The smokey girl no longer has a single pistill not shrivelled. Or a single leaf in nice condition. If anyone knows waht I did wrong shout out. Otherwise I have to say DO NOT USE THAT RECIPE.
I'll get pics when I can face them.
I can't be bothered to look for mites right now.
admiralcornport
Active member
Oh shit!!!! sorry to hear about all the problems...
Thanks Admiral,
ok here's the update
some pics were taken before and after the spray
This is what promted the use of this recipe. The first sign I saw of the mites was this, the speckiling on the surface of the leaves
turning the leaf over will show little black speckles that move (the mites) and little white eggs
Male before spraying
male after spraying
I misted the plants again not sprayed just steamed, the large female has perked up a bit, but I dont think I'lll get any smoke from her just the seeds, not sure what effect all this will have on them.
pics arent bad so click if you want to see them better, I made them small because it takes me ages to open a page with lots of big pics on it.
So the moral of the story, if your plants are so infected you will lose them, give them a spray if you want, but dont expect it to be a miracle cure.
The mite population has decreased, but there are still a few about. I have taken most of the bad leaves off so that the plant wont absorb anything else from them. Not sure what to recommend any more, waking up this morning was a shock, to see a lovely green plant now with shrivelled leaves and brown spots all over them and whithered pistils, but I think the big plants will pull through, eventually, the clone I took may make it yet too. Make your own mind up about this, I have recommended using this and recommended not using this, so ignore all my recommendations and think carefully.
ok here's the update
some pics were taken before and after the spray
This is what promted the use of this recipe. The first sign I saw of the mites was this, the speckiling on the surface of the leaves
turning the leaf over will show little black speckles that move (the mites) and little white eggs
Male before spraying
male after spraying
I misted the plants again not sprayed just steamed, the large female has perked up a bit, but I dont think I'lll get any smoke from her just the seeds, not sure what effect all this will have on them.
pics arent bad so click if you want to see them better, I made them small because it takes me ages to open a page with lots of big pics on it.
So the moral of the story, if your plants are so infected you will lose them, give them a spray if you want, but dont expect it to be a miracle cure.
The mite population has decreased, but there are still a few about. I have taken most of the bad leaves off so that the plant wont absorb anything else from them. Not sure what to recommend any more, waking up this morning was a shock, to see a lovely green plant now with shrivelled leaves and brown spots all over them and whithered pistils, but I think the big plants will pull through, eventually, the clone I took may make it yet too. Make your own mind up about this, I have recommended using this and recommended not using this, so ignore all my recommendations and think carefully.
Damn..that's heavy duty...1toke is back about, he might know what happened..were they well watered before the treatment?..I think I read that you should mist um good too with water first, so they get all hydrated and won't absorb much of the treatment..
Hope they make a speedy recovery..
