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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Sunfire

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I'm not repping ringo till I get my gawd damned custom DAVID BOWIE special edition that I asked for like 3 months ago! Talk about terrible customer service!
 

heady blunts

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i ran out of time to set up the shop press, but i did have time to make another hmk press!

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following hmk's advice, i did a little splicing and routed the wires along the bottom. now there's no obstruction above the plates!
 

Sunfire

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https://youtu.be/KP6izn8l55U

Cool little video on the Oilslick FB.

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GanjaPharma I have an inkling that you could agree with this... So i have been trying really hard to be neutral and keep my mouth closed, but I can't take it anymore. please people stop wasting paper and the earth's resources! Rosintechnologies really pissed me off. Then oakaii posted all those videos of all that paper with Hella thin rosin all over them and mad square feet that were pretty much wasted. Stacks and stack of paper. Now this video where the dude cuts off enough paper and ptfe for like a dozen presses and uses it all for one little puck. Where are the conscious demos that show people conservative techniques and arnt programming us to think "this is how it's done, with huge pieces of paper." I'm really trying to contain myself, but seriously there's no need for so much waste. It'll save you a lot of money in the long run too if for some reason you need extra incentive beyond not furthering the destruction of our children's future planet and home. Sorry guys, jist couldn't hold that one in. But now for some positive constructive criticism...

that seemed like an awfully think pre press. I've found it much more efficient and having better results with thinner pre presses. 1/4" after the pre press is my upper limit for sure. All the material, especially flowers, is very insulating. Takes a good amount of time for the heat to penetrate to the center which increases extraction time and risk of blowout. I guess that's all a matter of perspective and desire however as the balance might be different for everyone. Somewhere along the way though one will probably decide when it's not worth further exposing the oils and terps to heat, and suffer over all return percentages, for the sake of doing larger and thicker presses.

there's alot of people doing home builds and this is something I've been seeing a lot of...platens of softer materials, mostly aluminum, that weren't engineered to begin with so the users arnt made aware of this. Small little presses like that can seriously damage the platens and heating elements in a short amount of time. I don't think with the dnail it's an issue because it's not too high of force. Remember what ringo had said In regards that he noticed a dent forming on the platen? Deflection and creep are real issues to think about. This depends on a lot of factors but I'm just trying to let people know this so they don't buy a press and then ruin it quickly. no one ever talks about this and how much pressure (psi) their platens are designed and engineered to handle. If you get a 20 ton setup and then place a little 1" diameter puck on aluminum platens and crank it to full force, shit will start getting wonky real quick.
 
there's alot of people doing home builds and this is something I've been seeing a lot of...platens of softer materials, mostly aluminum, that weren't engineered to begin with so the users arnt made aware of this. Small little presses like that can seriously damage the platens and heating elements in a short amount of time. I don't think with the dnail it's an issue because it's not too high of force. Remember what ringo had said In regards that he noticed a dent forming on the platen? Deflection and creep are real issues to think about. This depends on a lot of factors but I'm just trying to let people know this so they don't buy a press and then ruin it quickly. no one ever talks about this and how much pressure (psi) their platens are designed and engineered to handle. If you get a 20 ton setup and then place a little 1" diameter puck on aluminum platens and crank it to full force, shit will start getting wonky real quick.

I've been thinking about different platen materials. Especially when people were talking about cartridge heaters. I was thinking along the lines of die and mold steels. S7, H13, P20...i havent looked too closely at anything specific yet. There's different grades of aluminum too, still might be able to go that route with the right grade. They're designed for high pressure and constant high heat, and wear resistant. Of course, for some people, it's probably not that easy to come by, harder to modify, and more expensive. Luckily for me I have a full machine shop at my disposal as well as an assortment of materials. I've just been sitting back taking notes, waiting for the best idea I see and then I'm gonna build one better lol. The main thing that is slowing me down is figuring out how many cartridges will be needed for different size plates, and how to regulate the temp. I think I'm gonna start hanging around some mold making forums. I'm sure they exist...

Mr. Roseberry
 

cyphaman

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They're prices are on their website. Omega cartridges are expensive. I'd suggest putting together your heating package from multiple sources that arnt chinese.

There's a lot more to it then just the cartridges my friends. I'd suggest calling them and talking to someone, you'll gain a lot of insight. Call all the companies you can find, some are more friendly then others.

Cartridges are industry standard for a hot press however there are other ways. I'm pretty sure ash uses thin film heaters and a 2 piece platen design. Ringo clearly uses ptc. However keep in mind you want "intimate" surface contact. A proper tool for boring cartridges to the required tight tolerances is called a "Gun drill" and they are expensive. A lathe will work ok if the user is experienced. A drill press will not.

Yes placement is key for good resolution of surface temp. That's where engineers can help with running thermal conductive simulations but ultimately you must build it and play with it.

Whether to convert to hash or not depends on volume your looking at and the starting material. Some strains tumble very clean and productive for me, other do not.

Thanks Sunfire! definitely all about having someone capable of steering you in the right direction. or hell, just do it for you for a fee lol I appreciate your input here brotha.
 

Sunfire

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I've been thinking about different platen materials. Especially when people were talking about cartridge heaters. I was thinking along the lines of die and mold steels. S7, H13, P20...i havent looked too closely at anything specific yet. There's different grades of aluminum too, still might be able to go that route with the right grade. They're designed for high pressure and constant high heat, and wear resistant. Of course, for some people, it's probably not that easy to come by, harder to modify, and more expensive. Luckily for me I have a full machine shop at my disposal as well as an assortment of materials. I've just been sitting back taking notes, waiting for the best idea I see and then I'm gonna build one better lol. The main thing that is slowing me down is figuring out how many cartridges will be needed for different size plates, and how to regulate the temp. I think I'm gonna start hanging around some mold making forums. I'm sure they exist...

Mr. Roseberry

aluminum vs steel is a tough choice to make. 6061 aluminum should be used at the very least. The guys using cheap billet are going to regret it later down the road. 7075 is stronger but harder to tool as it has tendencies to chip and crack so one must certainly have the right tools and equipment coupled with knowledge and experience. I have used just regular cold rolled mild steel for a while, seems to work fine. 1045 steel would be more preferable but more expensive. Thermal conductivity, deflection, weight, cost, source availability, surface hardness, all are factors to consider. How many cartridges of what wattage and diameter placed and what distances are answers for an engineer or anyone who as has access to the proper simulation programs and knows how to use them. It's a VERY slow process to do it right from the ground up.

as I said before there other ways, one can make a 2 piece platen design and use strip heaters or ptc chips.

cyphaman - no worries bro. The thing about paying someone to do it for you, is it will cost a lot to occupy that much time of a true professional. Plus you need to be involved in every detail if you want to receive exactly what you want as everyone will have different ideas of how to go about things. There's a balance involved with this for sure.
 

heady blunts

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here's a quick video i made last week:

how heady uses the HMK rosin press

this was the press from the video:

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the new HMK press i just made has oversized plates and no wire obstructing the opening so i'll probably end up changing the way i package and fold to better fit the new press.

actually in that oilslick video ganjapharmer posted the biggest thing i noticed was they cooked all the oil, didn't get it to run away from the heating plates in any of the presses they showed lol. i can't overstate the importance of getting the packet packed properly and sized properly for whatever press you're using.

i also got the smallest size of those t-sak teabags i posted a few pages back and they work great! i gotta say tho i think i'm faster rolling the little snakes and wrapping them than i am at stuffing a teabag properly. it takes a bit of finesse to pack the teabag so it is as efficient as a press pressed puck or a snake.
 

heady blunts

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i just use a piece of parchment and roll it like a way too tight joint.

i'm a human joint rolling machine. i'm faster and more consistent then those little gizmos. but they'd work well if you're not one of those people that smokes like 8 joints a day like myself lol.

hmk suggested the snakes originally.
 

Ringodoggie

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i'm a human joint rolling machine. i'm faster and more consistent then those little gizmos. but they'd work well if you're not one of those people that smokes like 8 joints a day like myself lol.

I am a joint smoker as well. I roll a 20 pack in the morning and they are usually gone by the end of the day. LOL

Point being... I started using the RAW "tips" in my joints and I'll never look back. No more resin on the lips. No more squished ends. No more roach clips. I totally love them.

Just thought I would toss that out for thought.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread topic. LOL
 
I am a joint smoker as well. I roll a 20 pack in the morning and they are usually gone by the end of the day. LOL

Point being... I started using the RAW "tips" in my joints and I'll never look back. No more resin on the lips. No more squished ends. No more roach clips. I totally love them.

Just thought I would toss that out for thought.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread topic. LOL


lol.. exactly.. lol . exactly 100%.. raw papers. with the filters..
 

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