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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Ringodoggie

Ringodoggie

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It rained all day so I got a few minutes to snap some pics of my setup.

The first pics is all assembled. Then, I just tore down the layers in each successive pic.

For the top plate, I used a hi-temp epoxy to attach the PTC's and it worked fine. However, since the bottom PTC's were upside down, the weight was just enough to make them fall off when they got real hot so I made the little metal tray to hold the bottom PTC's.

I also used the arbor plates that came with the press on top of, and underneath the aluminum plates. This stopped any warping or bending.

I simply lift the top plate off with a pair of pliers. Insert my package and press. After it's done, I just slide the package out and get ready for the next press.

Seems to work pretty well so far. I will test the variable controller on the PTC's tomorrow.

Also, for whomever was asking about welding the bottle jack.... as you can see in the last pic, it just sits on a little plate that pushes a rod. Pretty simple... and much smaller than you might think.
 

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cyphaman

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Sunfire said:
The heater wouldn't shut on or off like a pid. The controller would just regulate either voltage or amperage, same as a rotary dimmer.

I'm surprised they really have sensors in them????

What's a mosfet?
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I think that high quality cartridge heaters with thermocouple inside is what most people are using. if you note in one of hashtrodamos post all the red wires coming out of the side of the one aluminum plate...those are many cartridge heaters inserted into circular tunnels driven into the aluminum dies, the key is to have them evenly dispersed which is a bitch and then to dial in temp control which is probably even trickier to do. but this is what I am looking into atm trying to get this settled by the end of the month. hashtradamas might just be able to hook me up with something sooner so im keepin options open. this is too fun though. thanks again ringo and grey fox, nice work!

http://www.omega.ca/shop/hsc.html?g...sIKFuA-zC06xNdHMWjtg9Fp_IF-zb2hCaYaAqGQ8P8HAQ

http://www.omega.ca/pptst_eng/CSS_CSH.html
 
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Grey_Fox

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mack 10 said:
So if you had a whole room to turn into rosin
Would you press buds or get hash first then press?
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I'd say it really depends on how much time you are wanting to invest on which part.
Obviously collecting the hash first is going to be time consuming but pressing said hash is less time consuming than pressing flower.
It's really going to be a toss up and you'll probably want to factor in cost for parchment/screens for pressing flower vs kief and then add on the time it takes for each method. With flower it takes a fair bit of prep work and you end up with a lot of separate pieces of parchment to collect from where as you can get higher yields off less presses with the kief. I'd say both have their advantages and its really where you want to spend your time which will determine the right course for you.
Id say pressing flower is more for the home user where as pressing kief would be much better for production runs.


And thanks for the post Cyphaman, The first link seems really expensive for a cartridge heater but I guess if it works well the price doesn't matter. Do you have a quote at all for the second link you showed? those ones seem like they would be cheaper in the end.
 
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Sunfire

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They're prices are on their website. Omega cartridges are expensive. I'd suggest putting together your heating package from multiple sources that arnt chinese.

There's a lot more to it then just the cartridges my friends. I'd suggest calling them and talking to someone, you'll gain a lot of insight. Call all the companies you can find, some are more friendly then others.

Cartridges are industry standard for a hot press however there are other ways. I'm pretty sure ash uses thin film heaters and a 2 piece platen design. Ringo clearly uses ptc. However keep in mind you want "intimate" surface contact. A proper tool for boring cartridges to the required tight tolerances is called a "Gun drill" and they are expensive. A lathe will work ok if the user is experienced. A drill press will not.

Yes placement is key for good resolution of surface temp. That's where engineers can help with running thermal conductive simulations but ultimately you must build it and play with it.

Whether to convert to hash or not depends on volume your looking at and the starting material. Some strains tumble very clean and productive for me, other do not.
 
mack 10

mack 10

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Will only be 4-6 pounds.
But that's a lot of bud pieces to press.
( only rocking the hand iron)
Think I'll need a small vice too.
 
Ringodoggie

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If it were me, I would make bubble hash out of it. Take the full melt and smoke it. I find really good hash every bit as enjoyable as rosin.

Take the "less than" full melt quality and use it for making rosin.

Any bud that is 1/2 gram or bigger goes in my rosin press. Anything smaller goes into the washing machine. I just like the taste and smell of flower rosin more than the dry sift rosin. JMO
 
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Grey_Fox

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Ringo knows whats up. PLAY DA DRUMS!

I sent some money yesterday to someone on Alibaba for some MCH heaters (essentially ptc heaters just solid cast instead of wound wire) Fingers crossed it isn't a scam and I have a decent supplier : O
 
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Sunfire

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Hahahaha Alibaba scams. I found multiple ptc chip manufacturers. None in the states but you don't have to risk it if you don't want to. They will also make whatever size and wattages you want and whatever set max temp. Idk about lead times though. It sucks when you find just the right thing and then it's a 2 month lead time.
 
Ringodoggie

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You can buy the PTC's from USA sellers on eBay but they cost 4 to 5 times more than the China direct sellers.

I use the feedback as my guide. Several thousand transactions and anything over 98 or 99% and they are probably A+
 
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blastfrompast

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Having custom mch made in canada was crazy exPensive.. I have a shop in Ontario that will sell off shelf or custom fab if anyone wants pm me
 
mack 10

mack 10

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Ringodoggie said:
If it were me, I would make bubble hash out of it. Take the full melt and smoke it. I find really good hash every bit as enjoyable as rosin.

Take the "less than" full melt quality and use it for making rosin.

Any bud that is 1/2 gram or bigger goes in my rosin press. Anything smaller goes into the washing machine. I just like the taste and smell of flower rosin more than the dry sift rosin. JMO
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Funny you say that as u was thinking of bubbling the lot.
I like the rosin idea too.

Decisions, decisions...
 
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