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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

blastfrompast

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my hunch was right about using too low temperatures to press fresh buds. i press at what i think is around 230-225 usually, so i tried another iron that sits at 265, and i can extract not too badly from fresh flower now with that.

Nice eh :)

Funny I have had people trolling me for weeks saying that pressing fresh flowers was impossible :)

Let ur fresh flowers get a bit droopy and you can lower the temp...

Moisture vs temp......

Cool shit.
 

Sunfire

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I bet you see a lot a temp drain because the moisture will be literally carrying the heat away from the plates. A quick cold pre press might help shed more water.
 

Pangea

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So what would rosiners suggest for seeded bud?

What do the folks running bubble made specifically to be rosined, do?
 

Grey_Fox

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just wanted to show off a few more progress pics of the press from today. hope you all dont mind and enjoy :)
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cyphaman

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Have you guys tried teabags yet?

ive been having some issues here...

with the pneumatic press, they are basically mandatory, the high pressure and heated plates cause the material to spread out fast and far...making it hard to contain. so the filters are necessary, but have to be completely filled, otherwise youll lose oil to the mesh.

without the filters I end up with such a thin flower patty that it contaminates the oils more. or the flowers spread right off the heated plate and then that thick part absorbs oil too. very frustrating.

I think that the key to the shirt press is breaking down the buds then just throw about 1.5 to 2 gs in puck or snake, and throw it in the center of the press, start with 3 or 4 light presses then LOCK it down for 2 to 3 seconds. the gradient to pin point pressure is key to getting good squirt, and youll get a wonderful spray around the flowers that is so easy to clean up and the buds just pick right off....maybe a little cleaning to do. presto....none of this breaking down little buds and spreading them all over the press....just a patty in the center and bam, 1 to 3 presses, folding in btw and your 2nd presses will be just as lovely as the first! msybe 3rd one too:dance013:
 
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cyphaman

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Grey Fox that thing is dope!! nice work, i really dig the manual clamps that gradually build up the pressure, its definitely key.. I dont get how the rosin technologies uses such a quick tap and still gets the results they do on flowers at 150. much to learn still i guess..

for now we have the big boy set up, and ready for much much experimenting......and the shirts press is keeping the dab slabs on deck! heres some pics of the big boy all suited up for battle and then the shirt press results on some blackberry kush!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483512
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483500 (utilizing outer cooling plates to cool resin as it exits, also levels the surface for easy loading)
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483495
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483494
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483492
 

Sunfire

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Trust in your own observations and those of others. They are clearly experiencing a discrepancy in their TC and surface temp. I'm using 4 times the pressure they are and i verify temp as the ancients have always done using water, as well as 3 other modern technologies. At 160 I don't get nearly as fast of a flow as they do.
 

G.O. Joe

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So what would rosiners suggest for seeded bud?

Probably deseeding. How about 2 heated surfaces with holes in them, like nested colanders, hot air suddenly blown through at high pressure for a second, repeat?

At school there was a book on drugs, from the 70's, and non-extract hash oil was described as a product made and consumed in western China. It said something like bags of hash were frozen over winter, then heated in the sun and pounded with a wooden rod until the oil separated. Could be a totally lost, forgotten art by now.
 

Grey_Fox

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Grey Fox that thing is dope!! nice work, i really dig the manual clamps that gradually build up the pressure, its definitely key.. I dont get how the rosin technologies uses such a quick tap and still gets the results they do on flowers at 150. much to learn still i guess..

for now we have the big boy set up, and ready for much much experimenting......and the shirts press is keeping the dab slabs on deck! heres some pics of the big boy all suited up for battle and then the shirt press results on some blackberry kush!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483512
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483500 (utilizing outer cooling plates to cool resin as it exits, also levels the surface for easy loading)
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483495
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483494
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62056&pictureid=1483492
thanks dude!, I agree with the gradual pressure, I have yet to try it out but I am hoping it works out really well in the long run having much more control over the pressure. I might need to get some material to make some squishing bags to make some full use of the surface area I have at hand and to keep it from squishing out under the higher pressures I should be outputting.
 

rasputin

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So what would rosiners suggest for seeded bud?

What do the folks running bubble made specifically to be rosined, do?

Dry sift the seeded bud and then rosin the sift. Just did that with some material for a friend that was seeded up pretty good and it worked well. Did 4 passes, first one was kept as sift and the next 3 passes were combined and rosin'd together. Then I used the static tek on the contaminant pile on top of the 61 screen and pressed that up as well.

with the pneumatic press, they are basically mandatory, the high pressure and heated plates cause the material to spread out fast and far...making it hard to contain. so the filters are necessary, but have to be completely filled, otherwise youll lose oil to the mesh.

Cut the excess mesh off the tea bag, don't fold it over if you can't fill the whole bag. You always lose a little to the mesh but as long as you don't fold the excess over you shouldn't lose much. Is the surface area of the filter equal to the surface area of what you are using to press on it with? Or is it smaller?
 

Bionic

Cautiously Optimistic
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Trust in your own observations and those of others. They are clearly experiencing a discrepancy in their TC and surface temp. I'm using 4 times the pressure they are and i verify temp as the ancients have always done using water, as well as 3 other modern technologies. At 160 I don't get nearly as fast of a flow as they do.

I don'y know why but I feel like they change the temps on the machine before snapping pics. I think a bit of fuckery is going on.
 

Grey_Fox

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more progress was made today.
The plates mounted very well with heat and pressure. Just need to fasten the 120v connection so I don't need the tape holding the one end down. I would also like to clean up the wiring on the top plate but space is tight in the top so I may have to suck it up. almost fully completed but its in functioning order now, testing tomorrow! :D :D :D
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Sunfire

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The sizing of the plates and clamp seem to match perfectly. That looks extremely clean!

Get to 50 posts real quick, I have a suggestion for you.
 

Grey_Fox

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The sizing of the plates and clamp seem to match perfectly. That looks extremely clean!

Get to 50 posts real quick, I have a suggestion for you.

:D thanks for the reply. I was super lucky I had the plates on hand already, and yes the fit is really nice, the plates are slightly wider then the clamp pads but the length is right about where I would want it. I think most 2" hair straighteners should have the same size ratio plate so there may be some room for a better unit to be put together with a digital readout.
I'll do my best to get to 50 posts. I'll have to find some places to contribute where I don't feel like I'm hassling everyone :p.
 

blastfrompast

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Nice unit grey fox...

I'm upgrading my hand press for flowers to something beefier that my vice I am using now...My damn breaker bar keeps bending the rod....

Back to alumin and ss for me tho I think....I am going back to my car jack and impact gun for parchment flower presses.....I'm loving live pressed flowers more than my hash presses.
 
:D thanks for the reply. I was super lucky I had the plates on hand already, and yes the fit is really nice, the plates are slightly wider then the clamp pads but the length is right about where I would want it. I think most 2" hair straighteners should have the same size ratio plate so there may be some room for a better unit to be put together with a digital readout.
I'll do my best to get to 50 posts. I'll have to find some places to contribute where I don't feel like I'm hassling everyone :p.



Hey grey fox. How did you attach those plates to the clamp?

Mr Roseberry
 

Grey_Fox

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Hey grey fox. How did you attach those plates to the clamp?

Mr Roseberry
I simply cranked the heat to max and applied pressure. The plates have a slight angled wing on them which a plastic housing slides over. With the heat and pressure the wings dug into the plastic pads of the clamp quite cleanly and at a nice angle so they shouldnt fall off. I can take a picture when i am at home. But max heat and a good handfull of pressure should get most flat iron plates to stick to a clamping pad of varying plastic materials.(i could just be lucky tho.)
 

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