New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[slowandeasy]

I agree that just spraying buds to moisten is not as good as the whole bud having the right moisture content. Too much added moisture does effect the taste and look of the Rosin. Does anyone else feel that the effects are more balanced than say BHO? BHO seems more "heady" to me, makes me feel more tired too. I wil continue to report my results

 

[Ollie]

Lol Ollie are you tony? If so just say so and we can all talk openly.

I wasn't bagging his work at all, I was trying to point out cbn has an important medical role as you just described.

He is indeed doing amazing work and I've said many times on this thread that I like him and appreciate the time he takes to talk with unknown people like me.

My only shit talk was on the press design, which I feel I have every right to say I wasn't impressed because that's the truth. I don't see how so many people are not stepping back and looking at the big picture. Honestly though I feel like there will be no "the one" design as everyone is after different results. Paperless is just the future though, so much waste of resources and time.

No Sir, but would be an honor to meet him ..

I hear You, every person has his way of doing Things and as we know alot of Things can be done several ways and or techniques. SO sure we will se more machines / way of doing it, but im pretty confident in the Work BlueRiver (Trichome Heavy and Co) are doing there extractions.

THere are more out there doing there thing and making great extracts, but i think the openness / transparance (and then not) which Tony and the crew has , makes them more prone to "attention". Legal state ofc also have sth to do with it, but ya.

Big up to all.

 

[CalKicker]

Has anyone tried using a flat panini press for this?

 

[blastfrompast]

Calkicker:

Pressure would be lacking I think....

Rosin = Moisture+Heat+Pressure

All 3 effect yield and flavor and consistancy of finished product.

Give it a go tho, post some pictures.

You might have the next big "thing"

 

[Sunfire]

No Sir, but would be an honor to meet him ..

I hear You, every person has his way of doing Things and as we know alot of Things can be done several ways and or techniques. SO sure we will se more machines / way of doing it, but im pretty confident in the Work BlueRiver (Trichome Heavy and Co) are doing there extractions.

THere are more out there doing there thing and making great extracts, but i think the openness / transparance (and then not) which Tony and the crew has , makes them more prone to "attention". Legal state ofc also have sth to do with it, but ya.

Big up to all.

Ofc and sth I'm unfamiliar with those acronyms, could you expand please my good sir? Are you saying he's drawing more attention for enforcement? I think he's got some connections that most are unaware of. Im sure hes intelligent when it comes to canna law and probably has a team of.lawyers. It seems to me, how the future of recreational and the squashing of patients rights are happening, people like Tony are who the government are going to be turning to for help with regulation. Just my opinion though.

If the frame of the panini press can withstand additional force, like you put it in a shop press, then that would be an easy at home build. You should try it!

Why is moisture so heavily focused on? I'm thinking with really high pressure, moisture isn't necessary. Idk for sure but I'm leaning that direction. My bone dry presses seem.to taste better. Idk why, one day hopefully people will figure it out. For now though I think we need to find the relationship between pressures and temps. Only a few variables at a time. I don't even want to think about moisture content right now lmfao!

Would be sweet to see an alliance with all the rosin press designers but that will never happen as long as instagram promotes nothing but ego.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

thats because they are not acronyms, they are ridiculous abbreviations i believe for of course, and something. i felt fortunate i deduced their mysteries

 

[Ollie]

Ofc and sth I'm unfamiliar with those acronyms, could you expand please my good sir? Are you saying he's drawing more attention for enforcement? I think he's got some connections that most are unaware of. Im sure hes intelligent when it comes to canna law and probably has a team of.lawyers. It seems to me, how the future of recreational and the squashing of patients rights are happening, people like Tony are who the government are going to be turning to for help with regulation. Just my opinion though.

If the frame of the panini press can withstand additional force, like you put it in a shop press, then that would be an easy at home build. You should try it!

Why is moisture so heavily focused on? I'm thinking with really high pressure, moisture isn't necessary. Idk for sure but I'm leaning that direction. My bone dry presses seem.to taste better. Idk why, one day hopefully people will figure it out. For now though I think we need to find the relationship between pressures and temps. Only a few variables at a time. I don't even want to think about moisture content right now lmfao!

Would be sweet to see an alliance with all the rosin press designers but that will never happen as long as instagram promotes nothing but ego.

Im all in the same boat as You, I sincere hope Tony´s model gets approached and used where it can fit use.

In terms of the attention, I didnt meant for heat, but more in the community, Tony / his crew are all over with great Work and that attract people.

Futhermore the openness is also carried out by Tony in Hash Church, alot of knowledge and information which elsewise might not have been public, is openly talked about.

They are really pushing the boundries (aswell as many others)

 

[heady blunts]

pressed some cbd flowers yesterday.

just waiting to hear back from the lab on procedure.

I've never had anything tested before. what's the minimum sample size generally when it comes to testing concentrates?

 

[GanjaPharma]

pressed some cbd flowers yesterday.

just waiting to hear back from the lab on procedure.

I've never had anything tested before. what's the minimum sample size generally when it comes to testing concentrates?

they gonna want a gram.

they will use half of it for the test...if its dank, then they take the other half home.

 

[Sunfire]

they gonna want a gram.

they will use half of it for the test...if its dank, then they take the other half home.

Lmfao that funny!

Idk, I'm not an analytical chemist. But I was under the impression if they use exactly one gram that makes the math easy for milligram to do percentages. But the math is easy if they used 1 half gram or a quarter. Maybe they need to use more then chunk of the gram sample for different tests of they don't have new cutting edge equipment?

But I agree, 1 gram is the standard, I'd through in a little extra chunk with a smiley face written on a note that expresses your gratitude.

 

[Sunfire]

pressed some cbd flowers yesterday.

just waiting to hear back from the lab on procedure.

I've never had anything tested before. what's the minimum sample size generally when it comes to testing concentrates?

Please send in some flowers to be tested too!!!! We need to see the before and after concerning terpenes and cbd to cbn. Please share the results good sir. And describe in detail your tech, especially concerning temp and pressure to the best of your knowledge. I swear I'll get lots of analytical done when I have time in the future, I'll share it all. If we all share openly we can get to conclusions as a group much faster.

and I'm just going to throw this out there now...if you say your all about the patients, and you make medicine, but then don't support patients rights and refuse to engage in politics, I call wolf in sheep's clothing!

If you live in California you must educate yourself about AB266 and the 2016 changes to come! If we don't unite and fight, patients rights will be stripped away, counties will be given supreme power, and a regulation system will be enacted that only the rich and we'll connected will be able to land the necessary permits. That's for medical, not recreational. The compassionate and sensible use act was written by some of the board member's of my PAC. This is our only saving grace at the moment as it is a constitutional amendment. Please claifornians, educate yourselves, spread word, get involved!

 

[Mikell]

Damnit, I thought I bookmarked the link but apparently not. One of the workers at a testing lab in California runs a blog with a post about how sad it is to destroy unused leftovers from a sample. Not entirely sure I would trust a lab that smoked leftovers.

 

[Sunfire]

Lol that's why id throw in a little extra love for em. I know the owner of sequoia analytical in sac. I trust him and his right hand man.

 

[heady blunts]

oh yea that's the plan! test the rosin and the flowers it came from. I am hoping to find that the cannabinoid ratio stays consistent.

I'm working with material I bought for the time being, so limited quantities for testing and medicating.

I'll be pulling down some cbd flowers in the next few weeks. I also want to test fresh frozen IWE at that point.

 

[EsterEssence]

So, i tried some lower temps, still using a hair iron and vice and last years kief. I read the temp by squeezing a 1/8 inch paper booklet and reading the temp with my ir instantly upon opening the iron. At 160* i got virtually nothing, at 180* i got some, still darker color, tasted a little better, but the yield sucked at 200* the taste and color were the same and a little better yield, at 220* i think some of the terps were steamed off, color was the same didn't taste quite the same, not bad just not the same, yield was back to 30-40%.
I have stores the rosin both in the freezer and out in the air, frozen it stays brittle, out in the air the side against the paper is dull, the rest of the blob is shiny, and is pull and snap even after a few days.

 

[FaX!]

I tried the technique with my purple but unfortunately it was a flop!
I try again with other types of weeda!

 

[Croptober]

45u

 

[MJtheIndicator]

If would be manufacturers haven't proposed using ceramic hot plates, that's probably where they will wind up. Concerning intense pressure though it might be impractical. There might be a way to reinforce the ceramic when its fired to withstand weight, but then the making process and feasibility is getting nuts. If ceramic is the answer the price point will be outrageous. I'm surprised I haven't heard it more considering the ceramic nails on the market.

 

[Sunfire]

I was talking with a friend about making ceramic plates. Would be pretty easy to use a little ss box as a mould. Sink in the coils, smooth it out, screw on the top plate, and bake it!

Idk if it would really end up being that easy, but sounds easy! Either that or CnC. I think Sera mic would be much cheaper no?

 

[Ringodoggie]

If I am not mistaken, the hair straighteners are a ceramic coated metal plate with a thermistor heating element in back. Shouldn't be too expensive to make a bigger model.

Here is a shot of the inside of mine.