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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

woolybear

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After I got tired of tumblers that didn't work, I made this.

Under $10 for the plastic container. And (don't ya love Harbor Freight) a paint shaker for under $50.

I started with poly screen but switched to stainless. I use this for the 150u shake and then I have 20"x24" hand screens that I separate with.

For some reason I can not view this video with Firefox but IExplorer works fine.

http://somevid.com/8m0VDPpWdrsp8X2OzdNo

vid fors for me in FF , very cool!

Where did u source the stainless screens from?
 

MrAwder

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Alright I can wait a month to see what they come up with. Otherwise off to ebay for a pneumatic press, then rip apart a few hair straighteners and make my own frankenstein device.
 

Sunfire

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I use a 110 lpi screen on my tumbler, then it is all about time, 3 min for a #1 and 15-30 for #2...

Doesn't the kief just get everywhere with this design? The dog food container has to be covered no?

Yeah this ape tumbler spins way too fast. I'm thinking about just making knew and using the freezer itself as a collection box. Just a big ass brawl suspended inside the freezer ehehehe!
 

EsterEssence

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A shop brush collects it very easily, if you look closely most of the kief is on the bottom of the drum. Is there better designs probably but i have used this one for years, it's what i have and if it ain't broke don't fix it...
 

Ringodoggie

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Doesn't the kief just get everywhere with this design?

That was another thing I liked about my shaker idea. All the sift collects in the bottom box and you just scoop it out with a credit card. Also, if you look at the video, you can see the little whirlpool of pot in the upper box. It cyclones around and around to make sure no pot gets unshaken in the corners. Every tumbler I tried gathered at least a little.

Sorry to keep beating this but I really love this shaker concept over the tumbler. I can't believe no one has made a commercial version for sale. It works way better. It's way way way cheaper. Any good tumbler I saw was over $300. I bought a couple cheaper ones but they were worthless.

Shake and Sift.... should be as much a household name as Shake and Bake. LOL
 

Sunfire

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Lol just looked back over all of the foundation stuff on instagram and I figured out why his rosin looks so good, it's paper thin! I've been trying tto keep my patties thicker so you can handle them. The pic of the 50 gram slab is funny, you can see his hand behind it for size refference. That thing has to be super thin. I about 50 grams of some dark stuff. I'm gonna go see if I can make it paper thin and look good!
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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are you sure you are doing it as low temp as possible? and if its sift, its going to be kind of dark no matter what right? only buds seems to make the gold extact.
 

Sunfire

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Idk I seen some pics of super nice looking water and sift rosin. There was one from 73 micron that was clear!

OK so turns out if it dark it's dark, even paper thin It's still dark. Gonna try to line up some fresh material today.

Took some modifications but I got the ape in the freezer at -20F hehehehe works great.

I want to design a big ass tumbler where the freezer itself is the collection box.
 
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That was another thing I liked about my shaker idea. All the sift collects in the bottom box and you just scoop it out with a credit card.Also, if you look at the video, you can see the little whirlpool of pot in the upper box. It cyclones around and around to make sure no pot gets unshaken in the corners. Every tumbler I tried gathered at least a little.

Sorry to keep beating this but I really love this shaker concept over the tumbler. I can't believe no one has made a commercial version for sale. It works way better. It's way way way cheaper. Any good tumbler I saw was over $300. I bought a couple cheaper ones but they were worthless.

Shake and Sift.... should be as much a household name as Shake and Bake. LOL

I love DIY. Glad that shaker works for you, but despite your experience, rotating tumblers do work really well and will produce a more purer result than a shaker as a tumbler that rotates within the ideal RPM range gentle tumbles way less aggressively than a high powered shaker,agitator, vibrator like yours.
The more aggressively plant material is sifted, the more contaminant passes through the mesh with the resin. But if a fast made, rough sift is what you want to start with, then this is ideal...if you want a purer sift to begin with then less aggressive sifting is the way to go. Maybe you could try to slow or dampen the vibration on your vibrator and see how that works in comparison.

All the sift collects in the bottom box and you just scoop it out with a credit card

it's the same for every tumbler, shaker, screen box too....but plastic is the worse material to sift onto as it readily sticks to it, I'd suggest lining the collection area with parchment paper, metal or glass...if not, then try using a small (new)painter's brush with natural hairs for sweeping up the resin so you can use a card just to scoop up the resin...carding up resin, depending on the age of the resin, the temps and humidity, then some heads may become smudged on the plastic surface, but using a brush prevent this.

you can see the little whirlpool of pot in the upper box. It cyclones around and around to make sure no pot gets unshaken in the corners. Every tumbler I tried gathered at least a little.

The one thing that is impossible with a rotating cylindrical tumbler is "gathering" or what I call "pooling" of the plant material in the corners or at the sides The only time I've noticed pooling is with rectangle shaped flat screen sifting with vibration (the plant material would build up in the corners and need to be flicked into the center), but I've never experienced this build up or pooling with a tumbler, actually I think it's impossible. Maybe try using a slightly concave shaped mesh for your vibrator, this should stop the pooling effects.
Damn, what brand of tumbler were you using?


Sorry to keep beating this but I really love this shaker concept over the tumbler. I can't believe no one has made a commercial version for sale. It works way better.


I don't know of any commercially made hashish specific flat screen vibrators, but it's not a new thing. Hash makers have tried using sieve stacks locked down on laboratory vibrating machines for decades. In theory it works. Everyone thought they could load up a kilo of dry plant material on sieve stack (with eg 220, 160, 125, 73, 25 micron sieves), turn on the vibrator then come back in half an hour to find 99% pure resin sitting on the 73 micron mesh sieve...the problem is that contaminant breaks down into small pieces and is collected on the meshes corresponding to it's size along with all the resin, so they don't work that well unless good timing and technique is used. If fast and cheap is your aim next you are probably better off with a 160 Bubblebag 1/4 filled with dry ice and plant material and this bag is then inserted inside another bag (that collects the sifted resin, so it doesn't fly away) then shake the bags until the resin is separated.
Lab vibrator are heavy duty, well made and cost a fortune new, but are cheap when used and unwanted, many of these also have speed controls that go from a gentle vibration to extreme vibration, many also other features like timers, etc ..some have oscillation to simulate slow "swirling" and other cool features.
 
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What never ceases to amaze me about most poster's comments here...is that they all seem to place looks, smells and tastes over the quality of the high. I know it's hard to show "the quality of the high" in a post, but all I ever read about is color, lol. Color doesn't make you high. Personally, I don't give a hoot about looks, color, smell, taste etc etc..all that matters to me is the quality of the high, the duration of the high is second, everything else is a minor factor.

Would you rather smoke a very clean, clear, beautiful tasting rosin that had an average buzz or a darker, less nicer tasting rosin that warmed your ears, put sweat on your forehead and gave you an excellent high? I'd be reaching for the good high, not the good taste every time.
 

EsterEssence

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I am saying the same thing , the younger crowd is all about how light colored they can make it, however at the same time they want to add terpenes for taste. I do not find that the darker rosin tastes bad actually quite to the contrary the dark rosin i have made tastes like very good hashish only stronger...
 

snake11

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You know what size the plates will be?

Don't know. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just saw an IG post. If you check out foundation extracts you can see videos of the plates they are currently using. My guess is something that sized.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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What never ceases to amaze me about most poster's comments here...is that they all seem to place looks, smells and tastes over the quality of the high. I know it's hard to show "the quality of the high" in a post, but all I ever read about is color, lol. Color doesn't make you high. Personally, I don't give a hoot about looks, color, smell, taste etc etc..all that matters to me is the quality of the high, the duration of the high is second, everything else is a minor factor.

Would you rather smoke a very clean, clear, beautiful tasting rosin that had an average buzz or a darker, less nicer tasting rosin that warmed your ears, put sweat on your forehead and gave you an excellent high? I'd be reaching for the good high, not the good taste every time.


well i have been researching and making extracts for many years, well over a decade, and i can assure you the very best potency oil is also the primo golden extract from the fresh product. I prefer the best of both worlds, great flavor, and excellent stone. I prefer to do all i can to preserve both. To get the second, start with excellent genetics. to get the first, make the best extract you can, in other words, the tastiest and least damaged/tarnished possible extract, which has no separation from being the strongest either, as you infer falsely.
 
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