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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Mikell

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Make hash. If you press those flowers I'll volunteer to be the one to poke you in both eyes and sack you simultaneously.
 

beta

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I believe your method was to turn the frozen bud into hash/sift (via ice water or dry ice) and then press the hash/sift. I have failed at every attempt to press hash/sift so I am going to press the watery mess again.

The trick to pressing hash is to go REALLY slow, with low pressure and low heat. 160F, and don't go over 1 ton EVER. I take it to just below 1 ton and leave it there until I see oil flowing, which takes awhile. Once it starts flowing the pressure will go down, at which point I put it back up just below 1 ton and don't add any more pressure unless it goes below that.
 

Ringodoggie

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Do I have to use a filter with hash or can I just make a puck and press it?

Get your fingers ready M. I'll post a picture. LMAO
 

ReikoX

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Yep, another victim of The Mikell Post.

Back to the corner, bud.

LMAO

:)
No I wasn't. I just wanted to try squishing a fresh bud. This was long befor Mikell's beautiful picture. Fresh frozen rosin is pretty clear you make fresh frozen hash then press that...
 

Mikell

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Ah he's just having a go at it.

Filtre it. Doubled up coffee filtres work but you have to press painfully slow. And it's better with melty hash. Nylon teabags. Scraps of nylon. Premade bags. Your metal screens. Though that's better for 30+g pucks.
 

beta

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Do I have to use a filter with hash or can I just make a puck and press it?

Get your fingers ready M. I'll post a picture. LMAO

You definitely need a filter. I use a single sheet of Chemex unbleached paper filter. It WILL burst if you apply too much pressure too quickly. Again, no more than 1 ton, and don't add more pressure until the pressure drops from flow.
 

Ringodoggie

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I have some bleached white coffee filters. Some tea bags and a pair of old socks.

I have silkscreen cloth but I'm pretty sure that will melt. Same with bubble bags. I also have some stainless screens from some BHO runs I did.

I'm off to heat up the press.
 
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Gr33nSanta

start with the coffee filters, 3 layers around the hash seems to be the sweet spot and also as buddy said you have to press painfully slow.

and as far old socks goes, I ll politely say no :)
 

EsterEssence

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I put the pre pressed puck in a coffee filter, then a metal screen then the whole mess in a parchment envelope, or for directional flow wrap the metal screen in ptfe with only one edge open and put all of that in a parchment envelope then flip the press on it's side to let the rosin run out. I usually use 50gm pucks @ 200* with 1 ton of pressure after the pressure quits dropping and the rosin is flowing. To much pressure and you have a blown out mess...
 

Ringodoggie

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OK, let me repeat it so there can be no mistake.... Fresh..... Frozen

First pic is out of the freezer. Wow, look at all that frost. LOL

Second is the puck. I just pressed this with my fingers.

3rd pic, wow, look at all that pretty water.

I usually wait overnight or a couple days for the water to dry but I tossed one of the 3 presses in the oven at 200F for 2 minutes just to help evap some of the water off a little more quickly.

Last pic. Look at that beautiful stuff. There is plenty more on the parchment. I just grabbed some off the edge.

Was this the way is was supposed NOT to work?

I'm going to go taste that. I'll be back.
 

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Ringodoggie

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Unfortunately, my attempts to press the hash were somewhat less humorous and definitely not as productive. Sad but true.
 

Ringodoggie

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Nyuk Nyuk Boink !

The Fresh frozen inspired me so much, I went to the garden and grabbed a handful of fresh UN-FROZEN popcorn. Waiting for the water to dry off. LOL

Hash was the same old story.

A puck of hash. I broke off a couple pieces.

One went into the coffee filter, one into the tea bag.

As you can see, all I get is a flat piece of hash. No rosin ever comes out. What tiny bit does, is absorbed by the filter.

If I press any harder, the filter bursts and I still get nothing but a flat piece of hash.

Pics show how I kept bursting the filter paper. I even put the burst filter into a new filter. And, it burst.

If I go much higher temp, it all just turns into a dry flaky mess that has to be thrown away.
 

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Gr33nSanta

Nyuk Nyuk Boink !

The Fresh frozen inspired me so much, I went to the garden and grabbed a handful of fresh UN-FROZEN popcorn. Waiting for the water to dry off. LOL

Hash was the same old story.

A puck of hash. I broke off a couple pieces.

One went into the coffee filter, one into the tea bag.

As you can see, all I get is a flat piece of hash. No rosin ever comes out. What tiny bit does, is absorbed by the filter.

If I press any harder, the filter bursts and I still get nothing but a flat piece of hash.

Pics show how I kept bursting the filter paper. I even put the burst filter into a new filter. And, it burst.

If I go much higher temp, it all just turns into a dry flaky mess that has to be thrown away.

I think we have all gone through this, part of the learning curve when no one is there showing you. It appears you use way too much paper, also, the hash has to be very high quality.

Thank you :)

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Mikell

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Anyone use this to make their own bag?

Fucking image search changes google made sure make it a pain in the ass to get an image link.
 

Mikell

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Addressed to the "you're poisoning people with dioxin from bleached paper products crowd".

Technologies for Reducing Dioxin in the Manufacture of Bleached Wood Pulp

Google it. Click the Princeton link.

Then read of the horrifyingly high levels of dioxin residue in various paper products. Average well below 50ppt.

Parts per trillion.

That jug of milk in your fridge is more dangerous. Clerks handling paper are near suicidal.

Prove me wrong.
 
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Gypsy Nirvana

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Yeah.....behave yourself Mikell.

Less of the flaming and mundane profanity makes your posts look much better.

There is no need for all that man.
 

Mikell

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I was born a sarcasshole.

I truley meant no offense, but it does get under my skin that people make claims, others support them (based on little more than industry "cred") and suddenly the industry swings a new direction.

No one bloody bothers to find an answer, pro or con.

I have said before I would stop (albeit begrudgingly) using bleached paper products if I or anyone could provide any information as to toxicity as a result of the manufacturing process (rife with poisonous acids and bases, not to mention zinc chloride).

Back to industry cred. We now have Archive Seeds promoting very expensive (designed to withstand vacuum) nylon screens for hash drying.

25u screens work better than parchment (in my experience), but the concern they express is silicone contamination, something hundreds shy away from based on no evidence (not even a simple side by side analytical).


Bloyd! Got a picture? Sounds intriguing.
 
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