New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[bloyd]

Yeah yeah yeah... I know... Pics or it didn't happen.
I didn't get a pic of what became of the buds though. They got used up immediately!

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Edited to add:
All solder joints look excellent & there are no apparently loose wires.
I think I took my iron apart more than most.

Thinking I'm going to get another iron unless somebody may have a fix for this one.
What brand & model have been good n durable for yall?

Also,
I'm purchasing 2x4x4 6061-T6 Al plates for my DIY HF 12ton H-frame build and am wondering what wattage cartridge heaters folks are using?

My plan is for 2 heaters, evenly spaced within each plate, for more even heating across the surface. That is unless somebody comes in before I get things built & advises differently.

I read about the Cu/Ni plates that somebody was producing. Any experienced user comments on those?

I was considering purchasing some CLAD stock to work with but it's difficult to find anything I like.

There is often ceramic strip heaters inside the jaws when too much pressure is applied they break and won't heat up

 

[MJPassion]

There is often ceramic strip heaters inside the jaws when too much pressure is applied they break and won't heat up

Darn... Guess I'll have to get out the ol multimeter & soldering iron n remove the heaters from the board n check resistances.
Edit:
No need to check anything. One heater was shattered.
What a pain in the ass removing the elements from the rubber pads.

I picked up another conair iron for 16 bucks at the fam dol...

Working on getting it setup.

 

[Mikell]

Try mounting in JB QuickSet? I had the same issue and it worked until I found a new way to break it.

 

[ReikoX]

Thanks ICMAG

Thanks ICMAG

Thanks everyone for sharing this tech! I built me up a 6T press with 2.5" plates. It's perfect for my personal use, and micro grows. This only cost me about $200 and a couple of favors.

HF 6 ton press $65
PID & heaters $100
Project box $10
Misc hardware $10
2.5" x 2.5" x 1" aluminum plates $15
Machining the plates 1 favor
Top bracket 1 favor

Here are the plates, the holes were a little tight, but a file and some graphite fixed that.

Here is the press all setup. I didn't have the project box yet, but couldn't wait to try it out.

I used my twisty style hash press to pre-press 1 gram pucks.

SQUISH! The plates were about 200-220°F, I pressed slowly until I saw some rosin flow, then applied pressure and held for about 10 seconds.

I did 10 grams and yielded 1.5 for a total of 15%, plus a few dabs (0.2 g) stuck on my collection tool. Two hours from jar to nail!

The only issue I'm having is the bottom plate. It tends to run hotter than the top plate. I think it is from the steel Arbor plate under it retaining heat. Should I get an aluminum plates to replace the steel one, try to tune the PID, or just set the heat lower?

 

[MJPassion]

Hey ReikoX,
If you use heat sink grease you'll improve thermal conductivity to your plates.
I'm not sure how well graphite conducts heat but I'm guessing it's more of an insulator. I could be wrong tho.

 

[ReikoX]

Thanks for the hint, they aren't coming our without breaking them, so I'll remember that for next time. The graphite was used as a lubricant. My mind is blown by this thing!

 

[packerfan79]

10 seconds is a short period. Try 30 or 40 seconds and you will up your yeild.

 

[ReikoX]

10 seconds is a short period. Try 30 or 40 seconds and you will up your yeild.

Total time 30 or 40 seconds or is that after full pressure? It takes me a good 30 seconds or so to slowly build up full pressure, then I wait 10 seconds and release. There is definitely a lot of technique to this, so thanks for the hints.

 

[Chunkypigs]

... Should I get an aluminum plates to replace the steel one, try to tune the PID, or just set the heat lower?

the metal press and frame are acting as heat sinks which throw off the pid's, etc...

there's a type of insulation board that can hold up to high compression forces that you see used on the high end units.

there should be something insulating your heated aluminum from the steel that supports it even if it's end grain hardwood.

I'd like to find out the name and source for the new material for this application.
back in the day there were asbestos products that would be used for this.

anybody got the answer for this?

examples:

 

[FreedomGrower]

I have been pressing drysift at 170 in screens for best taste but some reason the kief gets me higher still out of a bong than the bigest dab I can take at a time on my enail

https://instagram.com/p/BPAt9MwgRGJ/

 

[ChasingGreen]

the metal press and frame are acting as heat sinks which throw off the pid's, etc...

there's a type of insulation board that can hold up to high compression forces that you see used on the high end units.

there should be something insulating your heated aluminum from the steel that supports it even if it's end grain hardwood.

I'd like to find out the name and source for the new material for this application.
back in the day there were asbestos products that would be used for this.

anybody got the answer for this?

examples:
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When I got my set from NewVape, they had the option to add insulator boards, and they're fantastic. I see they now come standard.

 

[Mikell]

the metal press and frame are acting as heat sinks which throw off the pid's, etc...

there's a type of insulation board that can hold up to high compression forces that you see used on the high end units.

there should be something insulating your heated aluminum from the steel that supports it even if it's end grain hardwood.

I'd like to find out the name and source for the new material for this application.
back in the day there were asbestos products that would be used for this.

anybody got the answer for this?

examples:

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TimeWizard GreyFox has a sheet of H330 thermal insulation he was willing to cut pieces off of. He was still testing it out last I checked.

 

[packerfan79]

Do you guys turn your rosin bags inside out? I was watching a video from pure pressure and they sell a useless tool for turning the bags inside out. They claim it prevents blowouts. I kinda think they just thought of another accessory to sell.

 

[MedResearcher]

Ended up getting a ER unit. Very nice machine. Well made, works great. Followed the instructional videos very closely.

Very first flower press was like 18% return at 220 degrees. Nice and gold.

Pressed a bunch more and averaged closer to 20% on flowers. Nice and gold.

Squished some flower that was like 14 months old and the return was lower, around 10% and a bit darker.

Pressed sugar trim which was around 10% also, but ended up a little darker.

Haven't pressed any kief yet, although I do have a big pile ready to go, just been busy.


My buddy was pre-pressing, girlfriend was folding, and I was operating the heat press. Didn't time it exactly, next time I will. I would guess it was about 1.5 maybe 2 hours to make about 100 grams from small flowers. Maybe could speed up a little, but it only drips so fast, so if your determined to get most of the drips out of it you can only go so fast.

Prolly could make a pound in a nice long day from flowers.

Mr^^

 

[Drop That Sound]

guys i really need some help on my new press I been working on

I can't seem to locate two '6.5 x '3 hot plates and heaters, or 12 foot wide rolls of parchment paper anywhere!

Oh and this Timewizard Greyfox Mikell speaks of, let him know i need the whole sheet.

Thanks guys can't wait for my first squish

 

[MJPassion]

the metal press and frame are acting as heat sinks which throw off the pid's, etc...

there's a type of insulation board that can hold up to high compression forces that you see used on the high end units.

there should be something insulating your heated aluminum from the steel that supports it even if it's end grain hardwood.

I'd like to find out the name and source for the new material for this application.
back in the day there were asbestos products that would be used for this.

anybody got the answer for this?

examples:

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That particular example appears to be phenolic sheet as used in the electronics industry.
If it is, I wouldnt expect it to last very long since the highest temp reted stuff I saw was around 284°F.

Here's a list of materials used for heat press insulation...

http://supplies.foundryservice.com/category/press-platen-mold-insulation

 

[Mikell]

guys i really need some help on my new press I been working on

I can't seem to locate two '6.5 x '3 hot plates and heaters, or 12 foot wide rolls of parchment paper anywhere!

Oh and this Timewizard Greyfox Mikell speaks of, let him know i need the whole sheet.

Thanks guys can't wait for my first squish

Kind of a piss poor attempt at trolling. Hang around Instagram and learn from the professionals.

 

[ChasingGreen]

Do you guys turn your rosin bags inside out? I was watching a video from pure pressure and they sell a useless tool for turning the bags inside out. They claim it prevents blowouts. I kinda think they just thought of another accessory to sell.

Yes, I do. It helps a lot. And turning them inside out is a pain the ass, have you tried it? They should just sell them already turned inside out.

 

[packerfan79]

Yes, I do. It helps a lot. And turning them inside out is a pain the ass, have you tried it? They should just sell them already turned inside out.

I haven't had a problem turning them inside out. The ones I have are kinda wide.

 

[Drop That Sound]

Kind of a piss poor attempt at trolling. Hang around Instagram and learn from the professionals.

Ya suppose you are right, but in all seriousness, time is money. Why hasn't someone built a large 6' or bigger press with multiple plates that can press say 20 pucks or bags at a time. I see nintendo's and other items being turned into rosin presses, no joke lol.