New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[EastBayGrower]

Your better off buying the heat plates and your own manual press you will save quite a few bucks in the process, and hydraulic presses can put as much or more force then pneumatic, hell heavy equipment runs off hydraulics and they lift steel beams that way many tons lol, so yeah hydraulics can easily put down more force then pneumatic.

excellent, god i love ICMAG... gotta donate soon... you guys are awesome..

just found low temp plates also, now just need to find out how to do the assembly to get it all together... off to do more research...

here's a purple cookie frost bud i cant wait to squish this ish..




edit: SWEET! i was wondering how i was going to get a frame, ect.. looks like it will come pretty well assembled except for attaching the plates... i;m liking this... cant believe people on here dont use icmag as a resource, sware its saved me tons on everythign from BS overpriced nutrients, dirt, closed loop, ect.. and now rosin presses... should really give back..

 

[B4URTIME]

excellent, god i love ICMAG... gotta donate soon... you guys are awesome..

just found low temp plates also, now just need to find out how to do the assembly to get it all together... off to do more research...

here's a purple cookie frost bud i cant wait to squish this ish..

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The plates I linked come with the bracket to mount the thing to the hydraulic press the top plate will mount to the hydraulic upper portion and the bottom plate you can easily tack a couple welds to secure the bottom plate.

 

[EastBayGrower]

ok one last question, so now that im looking at the these plates and presses on amazon, preferably a nice lighter mobile table top one since im on the second floor, 100 pds would be about max, so i found a few 12 ton that are like 100 pds and 4ft tall... pretty big unit i feel like... would a 6 ton hydraulic press be sufficient? or is there a large benefit with going with a 12ton+ press..

.. and last question.. about the plates, ill be squishing a both flower and sift, prob more flower if it works well. should i get a 3x5 or 3x3 plate? I'm willing to spend ~$1000 so i want a best unit for the price range.. THANKS AGAIN

 

[packerfan79]

6 tons will be fine. I use a one ton and I do just fine.

 

[EastBayGrower]

6 tons will be fine. I use a one ton and I do just fine.

thanks, with the 3x5 plates can you squish 2 bags at once compared to one with the 3x3?

EDIT: found out about pre presses which does show that a larger surface area on the plates translates to increased work capacity.

 

[Cadfael]

East Bay, find a harbor freight close to you.

You can get a 6 ton press for like 80 bucks. AND there usually is a 20% off coupon floating around in mailers or the internet.

 

[Mikell]

I would say a 10 or 12t if you get the 3x5" plates.

And bench mount the pump. The table I use is too small and I side mounted, now one of my shoulders is visibly thicker than the other. I make all sorts of jokes about it. Or just one sort, the dirty kind.

 

[Hammerhead]

If I had the means to modify my press I would change the plates(2X5). I have to use small pucks. I would rather have 4x5 to be honest. I cant find 4x5 plates that can replace the kind used on Hard press or Resin bomb presses. 2x5 just doesn't give me much room. I have been taking 1" pucks stacking them 3-4 high. This works pretty good. even getting some returns on the 3rd press.

 

[EastBayGrower]

alright guys i made the plunge... ended up pulling the trigger on a black friday deal from the same seller from amazon thats selling the 3x5 plates for $520, he put em up for $280!

got a 2x4 pre press also, once the plates arrive ill head over to home depot/harbor freight and get a 6/10 ton press..

and to think i was going to spend $2000+ on a pre-build press, thanks again icmag...

here's the link to the cheapest 3x5 plates ive found... 710snob 3x5 =$280

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282265605899?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[B4URTIME]

Damn that's almost half the price from the same seller on amazon, awesome find...

 

[GET MO]

I got timewizards 4×5 on a ten ton dake, n made a pre press everything out the door for under a g.

 

[MedResearcher]

Everyone talking about great DIY prices, so I am ready to duck after asking this!


Anyone know the price of the Elysian Research press?


Looks well made, with a cool twist on the drip tech. Although I imagine if you fold the filters right, you can still get some drip with a press sitting vertically.

Mr^^

 

[EastBayGrower]

nice, with that black friday deal ill have the same for about $500, except a 3x5 plate with a 6-ton press with 2x4 pre-press, seems like 80% of the cost is the plates anyway..

whats the large roles of stainless steel mesh for? are people using it to cover there packets to prevent blowout? or am i missing something..

 

[Hammerhead]

Everyone talking about great DIY prices, so I am ready to duck after asking this!


Anyone know the price of the Elysian Research press?


Looks well made, with a cool twist on the drip tech. Although I imagine if you fold the filters right, you can still get some drip with a press sitting vertically.

Mr^^

He doesn't list prices for his press. You have to email him.
https://elysianresearch.com/products/

 

[EastBayGrower]

Everyone talking about great DIY prices, so I am ready to duck after asking this!


Anyone know the price of the Elysian Research press?


Looks well made, with a cool twist on the drip tech. Although I imagine if you fold the filters right, you can still get some drip with a press sitting vertically.

Mr^^

its a bit more than 4 grand...

 

[Sunfire]

I just went back 3 pages and stopped, let me know if I missed anything before that lol.

First off, I've heard maybe 1% of the chinese buyers have good reviews. Lots of bad reviews indeed but if your going to go that route go on alibaba and order it direct and save yourself a lot of money.

A cheap shop press and stand alone platens are a good economical option. Don't over load them however. If you get a 6 ton A frame put a 4 ton jack in it. If you get a 12 ton H frame that doesn't have a gauge, like a harbor freight one, go onto the jackxchange website and get a Norco 12 ton bottle jack with a gauge port. Buy a mid grade 70 dollar gauge and plumb it in. Never use full force, ever.

You really don't need more than 1k psi. I've done this experiment countless times. Hashes need even less pressure but with flowers at 2k psi max I only get about half a percent more of tail end darker stuff than I would at 1k psi max. Flowers are harder too, lots of details, moisture content is key. 3x3 platens with a 2x2 material pack witH a 4 ton jack on a 6 ton frame is good. 4x4 platens with a 3x3 material pack on a 12 ton frame only using 9 tons of force is plenty! Even nicer dake and baleigh presses will break I've seen lots of videos of such.

The 710 snob platens use cartridges that have an internal TC wire and your surface temps will be 50-80F different than what the controller reads so be prepared for that. Low temp plates is a good option, cool owner, but they use only one TC in one platen and that will cause discrepancies too. Best to close them together for about five minutes before and in between every press to better equalize.

If you have ig honeyriver710 in LA can custom make you whatever you want and time wizard grey fox up in canada makes good gear and he used to be a major influence in this thread more than a year ago.

Most all press companies say they are made in USA but they mean to say assembled in USA. Pretty much everyone uses chinese controllers and relays and heaters and thermocouples because they are ten times less expensive. We all probably already know from other things in life that chinese stuff will work for about a year and then you may have issues. There's also the idea of buying local and supporting quality American manufacturers. I can get an enail from china for ten times less than an errlectric setup but errlectric is way higher quality and has really nice features. You also get way better customer service and faster warranty claims with American gear. Elysian research and the rosinator platens are the only true 100% American companies I know of. Elysian uses bva hydraulics however, it's a global company but the quality and customer service of bva is top notch. Otc is American hydraulics but ever since Bosche bought the company their service plummeted and many distributors don't even carry their gear anymore. The point being, don't let "made in america" advertising fool you. It is atleast a step in the right direction if the machining and assembly is done in america...or Canada lol! I actually think the hard press is mostly American as well, the ball screw rams in them are from Italy if I remember correctly.

Yes you can use directional flow with any press and do the waterfall technique. Drip offers several distinct advantages bit they are mainly a concern for larger scale production:
1) gravity assistance gets the oils away from the platens quicker and also heat rises off of the platens upwards and away. This is important for slower flowing lower temp presses especially. Not really too big of a deal but little details add up in the end.
2) you can drip straight onto a cold plate. This is great for doing large half pound hash presses because all that oil carries and holds a lot of heat. The pool cools instantly and is easily handled right away so you don't have to wait for everything to cool in order to further process. Not really a concern with smaller presses though.
3) you can see the oils coming out and by simply moving the collection paper you can easily seperate grades. Save the first bit out for head stash, the bulk middle ground for production sales, the tail end darker bits for RSO. You can even bump up the temp as you go. Once again, not a huge concern for smaller presses.

Drip started with Ester essence on this thread almost two years ago when he put a hair iron in a bench press. You can do it like that too but really it's more of a technique for larger scale production. Smaller scale you can use the waterfall technique just fine.

 

[Sunfire]

I think he means the mold, itself rather that the press.

I'm also looking for the right tool for this job. I have used everything from screw type hash presses (worked well but a PITA) to garlic presses to potato ricers to hamburger patty makers to stacks of quarters in drain pipes. LOL

My current platens are 3" diameter round so I start with about a 1" round puck about 1/4" think (about 2 grams of buds/flowers).

RINGO!!!!

where the fuck is my mic jagger press?!?!?!?!?!?!?

With circles piping and rods work great. Local metal shops usually have small drops from cuts that they will just give you.

The best thing I've seen yet with round platens is what medisun is doing by standing up filter bags. Thought that was pretty clever and solves the uneven packing of the corners issue. Seems like this technique may negate the need for pre pressing when using smaller round platens. If you had like 8" diameter round platens, maybe not.

 

[Ringodoggie]

Yeah, custom making rosin presses for the stars has been keeping me busy. Mick just loves his because he gets to open his mouth every time he squishes. LOL

I switched from square platens to round because the flowers I pressed always left a round chip/wafer behind. It seemed logical to go with round plates. I'll snap a shot of it and post it later.

Meanwhile, here's a reminder pic of Mick's just before I sent it off to him.

Right now, I am working on one for Mariah Carey. It is a little like the one I made for Mick only instead of opening his mouth and putting the bud on his tongue, you spread her legs and place the bud on her..... ah, well, you know.

Funny thing is, I am using the same pump on both models but I still get more pressure out of Mick's mouth than I do Mariah's legs. ??? Go figure. LOL

 

[Lyfespan]

Where are you guys getting the pre presses? I see them for a couple hundred dollars. That's crazy to me. I hate the way anything weed related in 10 x more expensive than it should be.

fucking simple pre-puck form is just go get a small section of pipe or square tubing rectangle tubing stock whatever you want the shape to be and cut it to the thickness desired and presto

 

[Lyfespan]

I got timewizards 4×5 on a ten ton dake, n made a pre press everything out the door for under a g.

about the only guys press id buy, he kicked ass in sourcing and fabrication