New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i'm with you ringo those numbers seem high to me.

i guess if i didn't use a filter packet (so no loss to filter material) and i only squished trimmed top nugs of gg4 or something i might be closer to that range, but i'd rather smoke the top flowers and rosin the B nugs.

i get around 15% average return from using very nice trim in paper filter packets. after many pressings i extract what remains in the wafers by doing an ethanol wash. i use that for topicals and edibles, so it all works out in the end.

no matter how good your tech is, you can't squeeze a higher yield of oils and terps out of your nug than what it tests at. no one is pulling 27% return on blue dream or whatever am i right?

Well the guys who tell me this i feel to be fairly reputable, at least they have no reason to lie to me about it. The rosin thread on tokecity has a couple people saying 30% consistently, notably recently a report of a great strain to squish, here is the quote:

"I have a new favorite strain to squish, Brianberry cough. Had to look twice after squishing the first flower to make sure I didn't squish a ball of hash by accident. 33% return.
"

He also told me he gets 30% on a few strains, and not just on one bud:

"Also, I just tried a small scale experiment to see how quickly I could process an ounce into rosin. I started from jar, rolled all my snakes, used 1 flat iron and the c clamp and ended up with 7.5 40 minutes later. I could probably do it faster but I wasnt trying to rush. If someone did this with two people I could see this going way faster."

lastly:

" it was Jack's cleaner from tga. Tastes so much crazier as rosin than it did as BHO.

Cheesequake, qwerkle, and jillybean have all yielded similarly. Some do better fresher and some need to be a bit drier it seems. "

 

[heady blunts]

aw shit hmk you caught my post right before i edited it lol. i didn't want to come off like a jerk. i'm not calling anyone's reports false just wondering how their processes differ from my own.

i'm very happy with the quality i'm getting but i definitely wouldn't mind getting twice as much for the same amount of work.

also 100% extraction in one press sounds great saves me time and money not having to re run the wafers.

i shouldn't post when i'm not medicated...

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

aw shit hmk you caught my post right before i edited it lol. i didn't want to come off like a jerk. i'm not calling anyone's reports false just wondering how their processes differ from my own.

i'm very happy with the quality i'm getting but i definitely wouldn't mind getting twice as much for the same amount of work.

also 100% extraction in one press sounds great saves me time and money not having to re run the wafers.

i shouldn't post when i'm not medicated...

Hey no worries bro, i dont get those numbers yet either, but i do get close to 20% a lot.

He uses a pinpoint pressure system, with a clamp vise different than the irwin quickgrip. he actually turned me on to the quickgrip i think, check out the rosin tech and pics thread on TC if you like to read more, and see pics of what they are using.

 

[cyphaman]

aw shit hmk you caught my post right before i edited it lol. i didn't want to come off like a jerk. i'm not calling anyone's reports false just wondering how their processes differ from my own.

i'm very happy with the quality i'm getting but i definitely wouldn't mind getting twice as much for the same amount of work.

also 100% extraction in one press sounds great saves me time and money not having to re run the wafers.

i shouldn't post when i'm not medicated...

your work is great to witness !

I have hopes to come in touch with some fine trim, which I know is absolute fire and so I would hope that we can see that 15% that you're seeing commonly.

Interesting about the pucks for topicals, edibles etc, I am still saving up haha, its getting insane. pucks and folded pressed tea bags like a mofo..Any recommendations for what to do? I have some 94% Global Alcool a french product that is consumable, so very clean but not quite 95% I think it will work great. Just not sure what to do really. lol

I also find that it would be nice to get it out in one go, I am upgrading the press to a nice custom doo hicky thanks to Timewizard and his fine work, so I hope to experiment with how to achieve this and whether or not its beneficial to do so.
I've gotten a .8 from 4g of flower which you would think was everything at 20% but there was still another 2% upon repressing. was quite a bit darker, sometimes its nice to keep them separate.

i hope to see numbers north of 24% one day !!

 

[Foreverfamily]

Is rosin tech on PM flowers safe?
will the heat kill PM

 

[slowandeasy]

Well the guys who tell me this i feel to be fairly reputable, at least they have no reason to lie to me about it. The rosin thread on tokecity has a couple people saying 30% consistently, notably recently a report of a great strain to squish, here is the quote:

"I have a new favorite strain to squish, Brianberry cough. Had to look twice after squishing the first flower to make sure I didn't squish a ball of hash by accident. 33% return.
"

He also told me he gets 30% on a few strains, and not just on one bud:

"Also, I just tried a small scale experiment to see how quickly I could process an ounce into rosin. I started from jar, rolled all my snakes, used 1 flat iron and the c clamp and ended up with 7.5 40 minutes later. I could probably do it faster but I wasnt trying to rush. If someone did this with two people I could see this going way faster."

lastly:

" it was Jack's cleaner from tga. Tastes so much crazier as rosin than it did as BHO.

Cheesequake, qwerkle, and jillybean have all yielded similarly. Some do better fresher and some need to be a bit drier it seems. "

My Personal Cheeseqake pheno is a beautiful flower, turning very purple when conditions are right or if taken longer. Anyways myy point is that it looks,smells, tastes, and smokes killer. But no matter what conditions, it just doesn't squish well. But another Subcool strain, Space bomb was dried for only 2 days and was the bottom popcorn...Squishes mad amounts of Rosin. Sometimes certain strains are notbworth the effort of pressing, the returns are just less for some reason. I personally think my Ceesequake is very full of Terps, the Rosin isvalways thinner and hard to get off of the psrchment.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i haven't found a strain i consider not worth squishing, and for runny stuff, scrape it up gently with a razor blade, then use a glass roller tool to pick the rest up, works easy and fast.

 

[Lyfespan]

i get around 15% average return from using very nice trim in paper filter packets. after many pressings i extract what remains in the wafers by doing an ethanol wash. i use that for topicals and edibles, so it all works out in the end.

i guess if i didn't use a filter packet (so no loss to filter material) and i only squished trimmed top nugs of gg4 or something i might be closer to that 25%+ range, but i'd rather smoke the top flowers and rosin the B nugs.

no matter how good your tech is, you can't squeeze a higher yield of oils and terps out of your nug than what it tests at. no one is pulling 27% return on blue dream or whatever am i right?

loose the filters and just pick the particles, you are loosing 5-10% to the filter.

i have a jar of ethanol with all my pucks in it for tinctures as well. i have just had the pleasure of squishing my first colored bud for some purple to show up in my rosin, waiting for the plant to dry out more for the real squishing so i can shoot some pix.

found that the RAW joint rollers will stand the most packing, i can pack an eightH into them and get them shut, but not roll them, so i just open pop out and turn it over till its super tight. zigzag roller broke the first time i tried to pack it. oh and the new milwaulkee sharpees work best for packing the rollers they have that nice wedged back end for shoving the roller full. ill see if i cant get a video up on ig of a roller being packed, then the clamp being loaded, then the run. ig only lets 15 min clips

 

[Lyfespan]

i haven't found a strain i consider not worth squishing, and for runny stuff, scrape it up gently with a razor blade, then use a glass roller tool to pick the rest up, works easy and fast.

i keep a flexible icepak handy to collect the more viscous oils up, seems the cbd buds all make thinner oils? colder pressing temps coupled with the moister buds yields the buttery oils especially when pressing on humid days. if buttery is what you want be sure to collect quickly out of the press to catch the evaping moisture and stir it in. high temp quick presses under 15 sec yield some shattery stuff, but you loose considerably more terps at the higher temps.

oh anyone else pressing with silicone pads, tunneling after pressing? omg i swear i get a great head change from some of the inhales, and a chance to smell what terps are being lost

 

[Lyfespan]

i haven't found a strain i consider not worth squishing, and for runny stuff, scrape it up gently with a razor blade, then use a glass roller tool to pick the rest up, works easy and fast.

glass tools for collecting FTW

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

some purple to show up in my rosin, waiting for the plant to dry out more for the real squishing so i can shoot some pix.

you may find the purple wont show when its drier, thats happened for me.

 

[Lyfespan]

you may find the purple wont show when its drier, thats happened for me.

i noticed a considerable amount of the pigment stayed on the parchment

 

[Lyfespan]

Oh Hash on the purple pigments, ill bet money those will be best for buttery squishes, ill try a few low temp squishes and see if i cant get the purple whipped up into the wax

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i noticed a considerable amount of the pigment stayed on the parchment

yeah i got the purple parchment many times with no purple oil. purple oil only a few times, and when it was only partly dry.

 

[slowandeasy]

i haven't found a strain i consider not worth squishing, and for runny stuff, scrape it up gently with a razor blade, then use a glass roller tool to pick the rest up, works easy and fast.

Fwiw, it can be very thin a times. Like so thin it just stains the paper the more you mess with it. But. The Spacebomb that. Was pretty wet when Pressed Squishes super sticky Rosin when moist. Same material properly dried will produce a shatter consistency, always good yields. Theo Cheesequake needs everything to be perfect for a decent yield. Low yields and loss of oil that soaks inTo paper, is not worth the time and effort. I can take a couple crappy lower branch popcorn nugsoff other strains and get more return than with my Cheesequake.. I believe Terepene profiles and as others have stated, CBD content can lead to runny rosin. I vpcan get more for the fowler than if I pressed it all...tripust me, some strains don't extract as well or as easily as others. Even with BHO, it doesn't yield as much. And is different consistency.

 

[ChasingGreen]

Can you tell me more about rolling into snakes? Aren't you concerned about the number of trichs you'd lose rolling the bud in your hand?

 

[heady blunts]

i have a 14% cbd flower that makes amazing rosin that's very stable with a great pull and snap texture.

i've been thinking the runny super sappy shit is probably related to specific terpene content. we just cut down another moonflower which has been the sappiest i've squished so far, so we'll see if it consistently gives that texture. first time i pressed it it was fully cured btw, so i don't think moisture was the element that caused the runny viscosity.

 

[Lyfespan]

Can you tell me more about rolling into snakes? Aren't you concerned about the number of trichs you'd lose rolling the bud in your hand?

i over stuff joint rollers to form my snakes

 

[Babbabud]

been squishing kief from the outdoor grow ... wooo hooo this is fun !!!!

 

[ChasingGreen]

Does anyone know of any alternatives to the dies made by Medisun Press? They're tiny and very expensive. I do however, love that they use the 20mm coils as a heating source, and I just bought a 2 coil unit and I have a Hiker grommet press. Looking for some dies that are more rectangle shaped and bigger.

Here are the dies I am speaking about: http://www.medisunfarmsconcentrates.com/product/heated-pressing-dies-pair/

Or, if anyone wants to design one in Solidworks, I'd manufacture it and give you a free set I have access to a full metal shop but I don't know Solidworks.