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MileHighGlass

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I'm just hoping that this is an exceptionally bad year and that any other years moving forward CAN'T possibly be this fucking bad. I've pretty much written off my Cacoon #4 plant as it's pretty fuct and won't produce much. The Caccon #2 is doing alright but they are still all over it and the BLR has been relatively unharmed but they have just started gnawing on that one's stems. The BLR is the priority. I need to get out there and do another spray. I'm up to 1 Tablespoon of the garlic/chili extract and 2 teaspoons of neem oil per 48 ounce spray bottle. I'll probably even do 1 tablespoon of neem 'cause fuckem. Budset is starting to set in and I won't be able to spray like this for much longer - then I'm really fucked.

I'm pretty over it all really. At least the greenhouse is protected for the most part otherwise I would be REAL fucking emo.

;_;

This is proof why the 6 plant count is bullshit.
 
Seriously give them a good dusting on the leaves with DE before you spray. The spray seems to spread it out and the don't eat there.

I think the European Paper Wasps are just eating ones that died. My soldier bugs are getting mean and attacking me...They must be low on food supplies. A couple of mantises have moved in over the last few days. These medical tests have left me too drained to get out and spray right now. I only have about 7-8 plants that might close to the half-pound mark. I am in dire straights as well for the next year.
 

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Seriously give them a good dusting on the leaves with DE before you spray. The spray seems to spread it out and the don't eat there.

I think the European Paper Wasps are just eating ones that died. My soldier bugs are getting mean and attacking me...They must be low on food supplies. A couple of mantises have moved in over the last few days. These medical tests have left me too drained to get out and spray right now. I only have about 7-8 plants that might close to the half-pound mark. I am in dire straights as well for the next year.

I did the DE in a neem oil spray awhile back and that did seem to help. I'm getting into flower now though and am sketched out by having any DE on any of the stems and preflowers that will ultimately grow into flowers that are to be smoked. I'm not going to do any more DE applications on the plants.

I just went up and sprayed the BLR and Cacoon #2 and that pretty much used up all the spray. I didn't get a chance to spray the #4 but walked by and looked at it. It had no less than 10 grasshoppers in plain sight, not to mention the ones hiding under the canopy. I'm going to right that one off and maybe water it as it looks like drought conditions pop up. It can be the grasshopper offering plant where they can gather on it instead of the others hopefully.

RIP
 

MileHighGlass

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I did the DE in a neem oil spray awhile back and that did seem to help. I'm getting into flower now though and am sketched out by having any DE on any of the stems and preflowers that will ultimately grow into flowers that are to be smoked. I'm not going to do any more DE applications on the plants.

I just went up and sprayed the BLR and Cacoon #2 and that pretty much used up all the spray. I didn't get a chance to spray the #4 but walked by and looked at it. It had no less than 10 grasshoppers in plain sight, not to mention the ones hiding under the canopy. I'm going to right that one off and maybe water it as it looks like drought conditions pop up. It can be the grasshopper offering plant where they can gather on it instead of the others hopefully.

RIP

Have you thought about netting the plants so the grasshoppers can't get to them?
 
I have noticed the little bastards don't seem to like getting into the buds. I think they are sticky enough to aggravate them away from the bud??? But i noticed that seems to make them want to eat the stem the bud is attached to even more. So i am dusting with DE up close to the buds and let the spray wash it over to dry out in a nice coating of micro razor blades.

In the end that is all the DE is, the Calcium-carbonate and Silica-carbonate exo-skeletons that remain from micro organisms making very small glass shards of sorts. You would have to blast them as hard as a crematorium before they start to burn. They are inert and insoluble to most all of the solvents you use to strip the cannabinoids. It is inert. If inhaled in large enough quantities it will make it too the lungs, but the little traces in smoking will fall out into the muccoidal surfaces of the throat and esophagus. I can almost guarantee that you will not be able to suck in any past the Bronchi which is designed to catch these types of things and flush them out every 8-12 hours.
I know all of this from my med tech background, and i wouldn't be using it if i wasn't pretty darn sure of it. One of my doctors suggested putting some in a smoothie to help my digestive issues...I admitt that that one scares me, but only because i have been so drained down by this over 2 years. I acts as a defoliant for the epithelial cells along the entire digestive tract. I wish that i had know about this while going through chemo. I would have started a regimen of it a month or so before chemo to prep my intestines for what the chemo does. Do not drink this after 1st dose of chemo untill at least 6 months after last chemo.

Try getting some lower into the leaves and around your grow in a 2-3 foot radius. Right now that is the only thing i see that i have done that you haven't. The Nolo-bait vs Eco-bait looks mute. I think they are using the same types of base cultures. I used nolo you used eco, but i don't think that is the difference.
Take care and good luck...i hope what ever took my hoppers away visits you soon.
 
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I have noticed the little bastards don't seem to like getting into the buds. I think they are sticky enough to aggravate them away from the bud??? But i noticed that seems to make them want to eat the stem the bud is attached to even more. So i am dusting with DE up close to the buds and let the spray wash it over to dry out in a nice coating of micro razor blades.

In the end that is all the DE is, the Calcium-carbonate and Silica-carbonate exo-skeletons that remain from micro organisms making very small glass shards of sorts. You would have to blast them as hard as a crematorium before they start to burn. They are inert and insoluble to most all of the solvents you use to strip the cannabinoids. It is inert. If inhaled in large enough quantities it will make it too the lungs, but the little traces in smoking will fall out into the muccoidal surfaces of the throat and esophagus. I can almost guarantee that you will not be able to suck in any past the Bronchi which is designed to catch these types of things and flush them out every 8-12 hours.
I know all of this from my med tech background, and i wouldn't be using it if i wasn't pretty darn sure of it. One of my doctors suggested putting some in a smoothie to help my digestive issues...I admitt that that one scares me, but only because i have been so drained down by this over 2 years. I acts as a defoliant for the epithelial cells along the entire digestive tract. I wish that i had know about this while going through chemo. I would have started a regimen of it a month or so before chemo to prep my intestines for what the chemo does. Do not drink this after 1st dose of chemo.

Try getting some lower into the leaves and around your grow in a 2-3 foot radius. Right now that is the only thing i see that i have done that you haven't. The Nolo-bait vs Eco-bait looks mute. I think they are using the same types of base cultures. I used nolo you used eco, but i don't think that is the difference.
Take care and good luck...i hope what ever took my hoppers away visits you soon.

I'm still going to err on the side of caution with the DE but thanks for the input. Any amount of wind would stir it up and poof it around as I was trying to apply it, even after I apply it too. That's why I tried it in solution with a neem spray application so that it would stick and stay on the leaves. Honestly I think that's why they have been leaving the leaves alone and going after the bark. Little, if any spray makes it down there so they go after that. I try to spray as much as I can but way less makes it on there.

Regard nolo bait vs semaspore, etc. I think they all use the same bacteria culture on an oat bran carrier so I don't know how effective one brand would be vs. a different one.

Apologies to anyone not dealing with this grasshopper issue. I know I've been clogging up this thread as well as others and my IG feed with this issue for awhile now. You're still going to be hearing about it some more too though, sorry.

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Apologies to anyone not dealing with this grasshopper issue. I know I've been clogging up this thread as well as others and my IG feed with this issue for awhile now. You're still going to be hearing about it some more too though, sorry.

Don't apologize. This a VERY current crisis in Southern Colorado. looking for answers in the Colorado thread... Best place for regional problems to my way of thinking.
 

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Don't apologize. This a VERY current crisis in Southern Colorado. looking for answers in the Colorado thread... Best place for regional problems to my way of thinking.

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Yeah but we're the only two somehow? Fuckin' hoppers.

I DO have some buddies on the western slope who have said they have been having issues and another one in that similar area who said that they aren't. It seems to be pretty localized. I don't get it?
 
Did you ever watch a movie where James Earl Ray was talking about locust and a god named pizzuzu? (something like that any way). My grandmother use to tell me how the locust come after a drought. When i was in collage they talked about pheromones triggering swarms and how they have stopped it. Well i don't think they completely stopped it and we are seeing individuals acting as a swarm member would w/o the others. I don't really grasp it but i think i see something there. Is there just a simple pheromone spray that will make them go back to being benign???
 
Cant tell you many days i wanted to do just that! LOL...But i am serious that our solution may be a lot more simple than we thought.

It might even prove to be the answer as to mine going away almost overnight...I triggered something that i don't know/understand yet.

In the movie they claimed sound triggered the swarm. Scientists later said it was air born molecules. What if both are half right??? Yeah, i have no way to test out any of this and i really wish i could.

Heads up the Spider Mites are about to start their bloom. For The next couple of weeks step up your fights. They were showing hard around Parkview today.
 
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Did you ever watch a movie where James Earl Ray was talking about locust and a god named pizzuzu? (something like that any way). My grandmother use to tell me how the locust come after a drought. When i was in collage they talked about pheromones triggering swarms and how they have stopped it. Well i don't think they completely stopped it and we are seeing individuals acting as a swarm member would w/o the others. I don't really grasp it but i think i see something there. Is there just a simple pheromone spray that will make them go back to being benign???

I think you're referring to Exorcist II. You need Pazuzu out in your fields swinging whatever the hell he was swinging by the chain.

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MJPassion

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Cant tell you many days i wanted to do just that! LOL...But i am serious that our solution may be a lot more simple than we thought.

It might even prove to be the answer as to mine going away almost overnight...I triggered something that i don't know/understand yet.

In the movie they claimed sound triggered the swarm. Scientists later said it was air born molecules. What if both are half right??? Yeah, i have no way to test out any of this and i really wish i could.

Heads up the Spider Mites are about to start their bloom. For The next couple of weeks step up your fights. They were showing hard around Parkview today.

Man o man... the rabbit hole has just opened.
I read a book last winter by Philip S. Callahan, TUNING INTO NATURE.
Phil was a radar tech turned entomologist that studied insect communication systems. In this book he mentions tricks he discovered to both attract and repel moths using light & frequency. He may have possibly used pheromone traps but I can't recall at the moment.

I'll have to skim a few pages and see what I can find.


...just found the frequency chart from another of his books EXPLORING THE SPECTRUM.
The resonant frequencies of Olfaction Plant & Sex scents range from about 5-500 THz.
These frequencies run through the Infra Red portion of the llight spectrum just into the visible light spectrum.
 

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hoppers took it down all the way ? or you culled her?

That's how it looked as of tonight. I'm tired of fighting them for my least favorite pheno, especially when I have F2s of them. Fuck 'em, they won on this one. I'll pull it officially when I have the time.
 
Man o man... the rabbit hole has just opened.
I read a book last winter by Philip S. Callahan, TUNING INTO NATURE.
Phil was a radar tech turned entomologist that studied insect communication systems. In this book he mentions tricks he discovered to both attract and repel moths using light & frequency. He may have possibly used pheromone traps but I can't recall at the moment.

I'll have to skim a few pages and see what I can find.


...just found the frequency chart from another of his books EXPLORING THE SPECTRUM.
The resonant frequencies of Olfaction Plant & Sex scents range from about 5-500 THz.
These frequencies run through the Infra Red portion of the llight spectrum just into the visible light spectrum.
That is VERY specific! Have to to digest and research. THANK-YOU!
 
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