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NEW Colorado Growers Thread
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Bobby_Stainless
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I wish you the best of luck, and I am not trying to come off as defensive.
I just think you are in for a surprise, if you think a boutique stand alone RMC will survive in CO. Vertical integration, will eventually kill off all the RMCs. It will kill off all the non-chain stores that exist now.
It's a shame, and I think what we all want is a Cannabis scene that mimics the brewery scene here in CO. Or maybe the wine/vineyard dynamic they have in the wine country. Unfortunately that is not how CO is set up. Companies like Livwell and Native Roots are free to buy up all the licenses they want. That kills competition and it kills quality. Which is already apparent in the flower you find at stores.
15k is just the tip of the ice berg.
Keep in mind, you have to have your facility completely built out, before you apply. Rent in Denver is border line criminal when trying to find zoned areas that will rent a RMC. 5-10k a month. On the low end. The time it takes to build out. The time it takes to get your license. Most likely a year and a half of paying 60-120K a year in rent with no income.
Like you said, you're license is a year out, if you were ready to apply today.
Call it 100k in rent. 50k in build out. 15k in license and fees. etc. etc. You will be 200k in, before you harvest plant 1.
If what you said is true, and the residency clause is lifted, you will then be competing with all sorts of really big outside money. Folks that can come in and buy a 12M turn key, staffed, RMC, MIP, and retail shop that will print money the next day.
You might be able to grow the best pot in CO, but it's not really going to matter if all the stores grow their own.
I feel the market in CO will be very different in 1 year, and monopoly controlled in 3-5 years.
California goes recreational? Lets people do what they do now, just on a rec basis? That would change things. KY wants to separate all licensing and limit the numbers. No vertical integration at all. Kasich just signed a medical bill in Ohio. The next 4 years will be pretty big IMO.
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MileHighGlass
Senior Member
As I see it Colorado is over. It's sealed up and done. bobby is correct unfortunately. Native roots, livewell, etc.. will dominate, and smaller boutique companies will get put out of business, or gobbled up just like any other industry.
Unfortunately Colorado is the worst case scenario for a monopolized Capitalist industry.
Unfortunately Colorado is the worst case scenario for a monopolized Capitalist industry.
Sad but true.
Corvette Doc
Member
THANK-YOU! You just confirmed what I got jumped for saying...Unless you got a 1/4 mil to throw on the table you will not set up a lic. grow, processing center, or sales in Colorado.
I am seriously looking at creating modular grow centers. This might drive down some of those costs???
MileHighGlass
Senior Member
MileHighGlass
Senior Member
I got some sour diesel f2 seeds in 2011 from where, I don't remember. I made some f3's on my first run. Finally pulled the f3's out of the fridge, and got this gem. The coloring is pretty unique. I will be interested to see how the coloring progresses as the plant ages.
Looks like a potential cal/mag issue? Just a shot in the dark though.
MileHighGlass
Senior Member
Well considering all of the brothers and sisters don't look this way it would be a big shot in the dark.
You mean something like something to sit in the back of a truck filled with hemp males fully flowering and driving around spreading, I mean sharing with any female plants with in the reach of their pollen?
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Well seeing that I already own 40 acres in southern co with 2 30x60 greenhouses and room for many more, I think Ill be ok. If not I can always rent one of the many greenhouse they are building up the way from me that already have water permits and state of the art light dep. If you think the game is over thats your own perception, but people wouldn't be dumping millions into infrastructure if that were true. Besides, I only have interest in co if ca doesn't vote rec in this year, which imo is a long shot cause the bill is so poorly written. All the naysayers sound just like all the people that told me I wouldn't make it in the emerald triangle, that was ten years ago.
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Probably the Indo Expo in Denver in a month
When's the Indo Expo next month? Nothing on their site or FB page mentions it.
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SooperSmurph
I wouldn't despise someone who did this selectively near a corporate owned outdoor grow...
Bobby_Stainless
Member
Sounds great. A bunch of light dep. I hope you find someone that wants to buy it. Lots of weed here.
Colorado will be insignificant in the Cannabis industry in 5 years.
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being the SEED of something, the first to do it.... makes colorado significant always.
sure, other places with better growing seasons and better rules, more opportunity will arise, maybe sooner, maybe later. BUT - people will ALWAYS remember colorado for breaking down that most significant door - the first door- the one that led the rest of the country over "the hump" away from prohibition and towards "legalization" (whatever fucked up backwards forms that may take).
also, things MAY look bleak here in colorado, but once other legal markets open up, and the BIG money players have access to other markets.... perhaps, just maybe, if we all don't get too disillusioned.... the pendulum of public opinion could swing back in favor of a sensible system where the "small guys" can get a crack at "the industry". maybe not, maybe just plant count restrictions are loosened, the stigma fades away.... change ultimately will happen. i guarantee you that the current course of legalization in colorado will twist and turn like it always has.
change is constant - so no colorado won't always be the front runner in cannabis industry budding news, but colorado will never be "insignificant" for the sole reason that this state was FIRST. the "jackie robinson state"
MileHighGlass
Senior Member
I get emails all the time about $1000 rec & med pounds.
I am sure there are some even cheaper. There is so much weed going around it's hard to sell it.
And Dispensaries could give two fucks about the quality. It comes down to price only. Period.
I am sure there are some even cheaper. There is so much weed going around it's hard to sell it.
And Dispensaries could give two fucks about the quality. It comes down to price only. Period.
seems that instead of passing a clubs bill that provides a legal avenue for special events and locations licensed for consumption.... localities are still shutting down all the existing clubs who are not in violation of any clear ordinance or law, here comes a message from iBake peeps, asking for help:
Mr.FeelingIt
New member
Hello everyone! New member to ICM and to CO, long time lurker since forum days on EDIT.
How is everyone's evening doing?
Have some seeds coming out of Barney's Farm and others also that will be cracking soon.
I was wondering if anyone had a wishlist of varieties they have been hunting for?
I look foward to the chance at scoring some CrazyXSeeds - Lemon Stinky - grown by MarijuanaMatt!
How is everyone's evening doing?
Have some seeds coming out of Barney's Farm and others also that will be cracking soon.
I was wondering if anyone had a wishlist of varieties they have been hunting for?
I look foward to the chance at scoring some CrazyXSeeds - Lemon Stinky - grown by MarijuanaMatt!
