The hemp farmer that pollinates my crop will have hell to pay!
I've got Rights...
Hemp farmers have a license!
Rights trump Licenses evey damn day since a license is nothing more than;
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The hemp farmer that pollinates my crop will have hell to pay!
I've got Rights...
Hemp farmers have a license!
Rights trump Licenses evey damn day since a license is nothing more than;
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authorities (don coram & others) say that pollen is like livestock in that regard
if you don't want someone elses pollen/livestock on your property it's YOUR repsonsibility to fence them OUT not the owner of the livestock / pollen producing plants responsibility to keep it IN.
i don't agree with that mentality anymore than you do, or correlating the two
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fence out is a long standing colorado tradition... a "way of the west"
and actually hemp farmers DO NOT have a license
they (we) have a registration with Dept. of Ag hemp program - technically giving us more rights than those with a license. the process is much more streamlined than a MIPs, dispensary or grow license as med/rec.
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That's the purple pheno of Esko's Oaxacan. Very showy. Yield is a bit disappointing- 350g from the 5 healthy plants, 21g from the one I should have culled. Lots of popcorn from the lower reaches. It & the close trim came to 75g. I think that's due to lazy pruning on my part, a very thick canopy & maybe not my best effort at recycled soil.
It's starting to smell fruity in the cure, like overripe apples or pears. No hint of the peppery-ness of old time Mexicans.
That's the purple pheno of Esko's Oaxacan. Very showy. Yield is a bit disappointing- 350g from the 5 healthy plants, 21g from the one I should have culled. Lots of popcorn from the lower reaches. It & the close trim came to 75g. I think that's due to lazy pruning on my part, a very thick canopy & maybe not my best effort at recycled soil.
It's starting to smell fruity in the cure, like overripe apples or pears. No hint of the peppery-ness of old time Mexicans.
I've gotten hit by hemp pollen at a spot last year. It sucks.
You can't tell someone what they can do on they're property but most these hemp farmers are ignorant. Some probably don't care about what happens to others crops. I met one lady that had a 16 acre plot next to a larger plot just down the road. She laughed, appologized and said she had no idea....and shes really intelligent. We're now friends. Her field tested high and got plowed under. There will be volunteers and we aren't growing there anymore.
My friend a little further away also got hit with pollen.
So I got a couple sativa males to return the favor. Why should they tell anyone to take they're grow anywhere just because they do give a fuck.
How does the state supplied seed that tests high? And there's repercussions at the expense of others. Ignorance
You can't tell someone what they can do on they're property but most these hemp farmers are ignorant. Some probably don't care about what happens to others crops. I met one lady that had a 16 acre plot next to a larger plot just down the road. She laughed, appologized and said she had no idea....and shes really intelligent. We're now friends. Her field tested high and got plowed under. There will be volunteers and we aren't growing there anymore.
My friend a little further away also got hit with pollen.
So I got a couple sativa males to return the favor. Why should they tell anyone to take they're grow anywhere just because they do give a fuck.
How does the state supplied seed that tests high? And there's repercussions at the expense of others. Ignorance
Fuckin Monsanto policies!
You don't like our kind'a corn?
Well you gotta grow under a greenhouse then or we will own your farm.
I doubt it was state supplied/approved seed if it tested high. You are not require to use state supplied seed. You can source your seed from anywhere right now basically, as long as you follow the testing procedures, planting reports, etc.
Hemp farmers have more rights than pot growers, rec or medical, ever will. Hemp is under a congressional law and it is a federally binding program assisted with state universities. It will trump your medical grow legally every time.
Pollen is a double edged sword. As we can see by this post of this guy wanting to use sativa males on a hemp field...fine but not everybody plants fiber or uses the seeds that are made. You won't end up effecting their crop at all, especially if its for fiber. Maybe if it was CBD hemp.
I work on both sides and I do breeding, of both types. I have listened to rec growers bitch in county meetings about perceived threats from hemp pollen. It pisses me off. Either step the fuck up and learn how to properly put in pollen filters and air filtration systems or stop growing weed for a living. Seriously. Med growers can bitch but they ultimately can't do anything and rec growers should have the money and proper knowledge to filter it out. All CBD crops and cannabis will end up being grown in greenhouses (with filters!) commercially eventually due to rising hemp farming rates.
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Pollen filters for an outdoor grown crop?
Your fuckin funny dude!
And
Laws that legalize anything NEVER trump individual Rights. On that you are absolutely incorrect.
Your assumption that everybody is growing weed for a living really make YOUR ignorance shine!
Like I said you're going to need greenhouses.
Growing under the sun is already illegal in most counties. And bitching about pollen while doing illegal things is laughable.
It is your right however to isolate your crop from that dispersal. But you don't have any rights to say what an individual can or cannot do....funny to talk about rights when trying to tell people they can't grow seed.
Growing weed for a living was specifically at recreational commercial growers that I have heard bitch about pollen. They of all people should have proper HVAC knowledge and money for filters.
Growing under the sun is already illegal in most counties. And bitching about pollen while doing illegal things is laughable.
It is your right however to isolate your crop from that dispersal. But you don't have any rights to say what an individual can or cannot do....funny to talk about rights when trying to tell people they can't grow seed.
Growing weed for a living was specifically at recreational commercial growers that I have heard bitch about pollen. They of all people should have proper HVAC knowledge and money for filters.
there is no state supplied OR approved ("certified") hemp seed YET
the colorado program is associated w dept of ag
it's my understanding that a federal farm bill outlined allowances for hemp pilot programs via state dept of ags and research programs (like the one that prf. abdel berrada is involved in) thru universities.
ihave no problem with hemp pollen flying around...
i'd like to THINK that pollen is flying for a REASON, but as of NOW there is no industry/market for hemp material that is grown allowing seeds; fiber, food, fuel, etc.
there are currently no processing facilities or the heavy equipment for harvesting hemp properly, for short fiber OR long fiber hemp.
it seems now many hemp farmers growing hemp that throws pollen are just growing it to say they did, on some no-win mission.... some of them almost antagonistically throwing pollen
the colorado program is associated w dept of ag
it's my understanding that a federal farm bill outlined allowances for hemp pilot programs via state dept of ags and research programs (like the one that prf. abdel berrada is involved in) thru universities.
ihave no problem with hemp pollen flying around...
i'd like to THINK that pollen is flying for a REASON, but as of NOW there is no industry/market for hemp material that is grown allowing seeds; fiber, food, fuel, etc.
there are currently no processing facilities or the heavy equipment for harvesting hemp properly, for short fiber OR long fiber hemp.
it seems now many hemp farmers growing hemp that throws pollen are just growing it to say they did, on some no-win mission.... some of them almost antagonistically throwing pollen
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What's your solution for protecting personal grows when folks cant afford pollen filtration for 6 measly plants?
Antagonistically tossing pollen is absolutely the goal of some of these hemp farmers. They prefer prohibition & will realize it however they like making it happen.
What's your solution for protecting personal grows when folks cant afford pollen filtration for 6 measly plants?
Antagonistically tossing pollen is absolutely the goal of some of these hemp farmers. They prefer prohibition & will realize it however they like making it happen.
I don't have one really. It is a tough issue on the med or homegrow side, like I said all they can do really is complain since they do not have the funds to build a nice clean pollen filtered greenhouse. It would be an interesting project to design a cheap pollen filtered greenhouse. Maybe use water to kill pollen instead and incorporate that somehow, I've heard that many a time and it'd be interesting to see if that is entirely true.
I would try to talk with the ignorant hemp farmers in the area and try to source them better seeds. Or show them how to clone and help them find a stable cut. Or persuade them to grow CBD flowers in which case they'll need clones anyway.
Personally I would like to make either feminised fiber seed or sterilized fiber seed specifically for this issue. That would solve everyone's problems but it is probably a ways off to turning everyone's seed stock into sterile/feminized genetics. A lot of people bought terrible European/East European hemp strains with intersexual qualities.
Well those are just assholes. There's a lot in this world.
pollen filters or "wet walls" on greenhouses are a very real thing that will protect from pollen AND raise humidity & lower temps.... speaking of proper knowledge required to cover your ass it may come in handy. also light dep crops that are finished by or before the time that hemp pollen starts to fly (mid august or so, depending on variety) would be a good avenue to pursue if seeking rec or med sensimillia (whether for personal use or commercial legitimate or illicit doesn't really matter imo, we are talking about plant biology and different ways to accomplish different goals within the same geographic area, not who has the "most right" to accomplish their agricultural goals).
and when the DOA comes to test your hemp crop you most certainly ARE required to use state supplied testing - you just get a pass/fail tho as far as i know, you don't get your test result specifics back from DOA, they just tell you if your crop is hot or not
and when the DOA comes to test your hemp crop you most certainly ARE required to use state supplied testing - you just get a pass/fail tho as far as i know, you don't get your test result specifics back from DOA, they just tell you if your crop is hot or not
Testing yes, but as of now you aren't required to use state approved seed is what I meant.
Light dep should work for the most part, unless somebody has autoflowering hemp in the field that has a male busting nuts extremely early.
Do you realize how shitty you sound? Not everyone is "growing for a living" and you are directly shitting on every home grower who avoids shops altogether. You seem to have the idea of "I can do as I please and if you dont like it, fuck off" and that everyone else in the county should have to hook up industrial air scrubbers all because youre ok with your hemp pollen flying around willy nilly fucking up sensi greens... you also seem to care much more about cashing in than you do about the community... maybe I'm reading the inflection wrong, but it sounds pretty bad, especially when its destructive to both THC and CBD farming just to make some string....
This is exactly how it seems. Antagonistic. And with that, they have a successful divide within our community. I for one, think hemp farmers have a responsibility to the rest of the cannabis community to cull males and generally not make an ass of themselves as opposed to letting pollen fly, pollen that will decrease the quality of any consumable smoking greens going forward, selfishly and without any consideration for anyone else.
You should refresh and reread.
I have never once planted pollen tossing hemp personally. I think anyone doing it antagonistically is just an asshole plain and simple. I already addressed that it is not possible for your average homegrower to have filters because they don't have the funds. There is not a readily available 100% solution that I can see of. Light dep, maybe a DIY water wall, or get really early flowering strains. Its a tough issue.
But anyone growing commercially that bitches about pollen, which I have personally heard, is shouting into the wind imo.
I see the distinction, commercial growers should, of course, protect their warehouse with filters, and I see that as their responsibility as well, thats not remotely my issue here, I simply must add that the small home growers essentially have no voice.
A femmed seed would be a great solution if we could get them all to actually use it.
You know I cant help but to think, if they treated things otherwise... demanding that hemp be grown in greenhouses to contain any pollen (which is probably coming the second any of us seed Bayers sensi crops :^) I'd imagine you'd hear the hemp farmers decry that the gubment cannot dictate what they do on their land. They might bring up the costs incurred on building massive greenhouses and say it was unfair to expect folks growing one style of crop to have more restrictions and requirements as the same crop grown in a different style, but using the same practices and medium.
I think the only real solution is not a legislative one, but one of community. I'm sure that hemp farmers dont want sensi cannabis farmers against them but rather with them. Nobody wants some pissed off neighbor with cannabis that has been seeded like ditch-weed burning down their hemp fields, so I'd think, as usual, that education and understanding would help. If the hemp farmers understood what risk of damage they could potentially cause and promptly culled males or used sterile or femmed seeds, then I'd think the sensi farmers could have some understanding that you cant catch everything immediately and that a small amount of pollen is inevitable.
Instead of that, it really seems like many hemp farmers take the opinion of "fuck off, I'm legally better protected and youre all just growing DOPE!" Many seem not only ok with, but in fact overjoyed to ruin other folks sensi crops. This inconsideration and at times seemingly premeditated complete lack of regard isn't going to be helpful to any of us long term, and it seems a good way to divide and conquer.
You know I cant help but to think, if they treated things otherwise... demanding that hemp be grown in greenhouses to contain any pollen (which is probably coming the second any of us seed Bayers sensi crops :^) I'd imagine you'd hear the hemp farmers decry that the gubment cannot dictate what they do on their land. They might bring up the costs incurred on building massive greenhouses and say it was unfair to expect folks growing one style of crop to have more restrictions and requirements as the same crop grown in a different style, but using the same practices and medium.
I think the only real solution is not a legislative one, but one of community. I'm sure that hemp farmers dont want sensi cannabis farmers against them but rather with them. Nobody wants some pissed off neighbor with cannabis that has been seeded like ditch-weed burning down their hemp fields, so I'd think, as usual, that education and understanding would help. If the hemp farmers understood what risk of damage they could potentially cause and promptly culled males or used sterile or femmed seeds, then I'd think the sensi farmers could have some understanding that you cant catch everything immediately and that a small amount of pollen is inevitable.
Instead of that, it really seems like many hemp farmers take the opinion of "fuck off, I'm legally better protected and youre all just growing DOPE!" Many seem not only ok with, but in fact overjoyed to ruin other folks sensi crops. This inconsideration and at times seemingly premeditated complete lack of regard isn't going to be helpful to any of us long term, and it seems a good way to divide and conquer.
