Nevilles Haze X Everything....

[Stardog]

Oh yeah it's about as much as I could hope for. I had to run out to borrow some flora bloom from my friend up the road and in the 45 min I was gone the Nevs/lucy had crashed to the floor. I had that thing tied up 50 different ways but I think sometimes things can happen for a reason us mere mortals can't fathom so perhaps the powers above or below knew it was going to start to rot and gave me a break... Now the real Lucy and the Kosher have all the room they could ever use to finish off.
Massive rains coming in today, it's going to be a muddy mess out there with crazy puddles seeing that the ground is frozen down 18" or so. Really looking forward to my basement flooding again. I'm not complaining though as things are going pretty well either way. Threw a big Mr Frosty into flower at lights out yesterday. I'll re-pot her this morning, she's been in my veg forever.

 

[Raho]

I love how you got the calyx size up with the Lucy in those Blue Nev crosses.
A perfect complimentary mix.
Guess those girls have a mind of their own. Best not to fight it when they try to tell you something ;-)
Did you ever get a pump with a float switch setup for that basement?
Sleep a lot better at night with one of those setup.

 

[Stardog]

Well it doesn't flood like you would imagine. Water just puddles up at the top of the stairs when the ground is frozen and then it slips through the sand and washes down the stairs. It usually dries up in a day but it drags a bunch of sand down with it. It's ripping out there tonight, pouring rain and 60 F and there's no puddle so the ground must have soaked it in.
Yes though, the calyxes on the Nevs/Lucy's are all fat ones like the Lucy mom instead of the smaller flashy ones on the Nevs Blueberry females. I like them both but the hybrids have a more "dank" or "modern/trendy" smell but as I've mentioned before it's a new smell for me, like a blueberry flower, if there was such a thing. I still have males of the giant phenos I need to transplant. Certainly over done it with my basement veg. Never had that sort of space for myself to veg in so I've gone overboard a bit, plants everywhere, seedlings popping in every corner. At the very least it's keeping me busy because idle hands...well you know that one...

 

[Shooters]

Tribute Pic to Raho & Chaco as it is made with your guys' NevSis x Dubis' Zamaldelica

I call it Chaco's Dubi

 

[Stardog]

Looking nice there Shooters, very nice, vigorous as well. You have to watch out because some of those or rather most of those Nevils hybrids have "the giant gene" I'd call it for lack of a more scientific term. Then add the Zamadelica and I reckon you are quite likely to find some winners in that batch.Best of luck to you on that, sounds like a fun run.
Sometimes I have a Lucy that comes out just perfect. She's a pretty reliable cut in general but 3-4 out of 10 runs she just shines. Now that the Nevs/Lucy is out of there this one has the place almost to itself along with the Kosher unit. This room has seen temps in the high 30's over that last cold blast but everything in here has just been great. I can't recall exactly when I flipped her but she looks about a week or 10 days from being done.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Looking nice there Shooters, very nice, vigorous as well. You have to watch out because some of those or rather most of those Nevils hybrids have "the giant gene" I'd call it for lack of a more scientific term. Then add the Zamadelica and I reckon you are quite likely to find some winners in that batch.Best of luck to you on that, sounds like a fun run.
Sometimes I have a Lucy that comes out just perfect. She's a pretty reliable cut in general but 3-4 out of 10 runs she just shines. Now that the Nevs/Lucy is out of there this one has the place almost to itself along with the Kosher unit. This room has seen temps in the high 30's over that last cold blast but everything in here has just been great. I can't recall exactly when I flipped her but she looks about a week or 10 days from being done.
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Do you set buckets inside buckets ? It sure looks that way. I ask because I dot he same thing. Either cut the bottom off the container with the plant in it, or if it has big enough holes(sometimes I drill 1 1/2 " holes int he bottoms) , I just set it inside a larger container.

Here I thought I was doing something no one else was(mostly because of how "lazy" it seems) . I also was thinking I was wasting soil, and not much root growth went into the bottom container. I was wrong. Took one apart the other day,after I chopped a plant. Root's had completely filled the bottom container.

 

[Raho]

Tribute Pic to Raho & Chaco as it is made with your guys' NevSis x Dubis' Zamaldelica

I call it Chaco's Dubi

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That Nev's Sis was all Chaco, Shooter
Not sure how many Nevil's he went through to find that male, but it was a lot.
Those crosses put fire in a lot of people's gardens. Nice to see you still workin it!

 

[Ncali]

I wonder if there is still magic in the Neville packs. The art of selecting males is the night and day difference between the truth & frauds. Studs showcased in this thread look to be the truth.

Just curious if there's thoughts or maybe even a consensus in this thread, for haze a or c genetics for those of us that missed the train 10 or so years ago. Is digging through mns packs the way to go? Nev haze packs? Just looking for nice haze daddy without having to sort through numerous 16-20week OTH or THH or something. rdIf this is off topic or generally considered a nuisance question, please just scroll on by

Chaco & friends, very inspiring works and thanks for sharing this thread

 

[Shooters]

That Nev's Sis was all Chaco, Shooter
Not sure how many Nevil's he went through to find that male, but it was a lot.
Those crosses put fire in a lot of people's gardens. Nice to see you still workin it!

I must a mis-read (it has been known to happen when smoking lots of zamaldelica) back a few thousand pages ago, but I thought you were the holder of the male N. Haze. Cheers anyway as you two have been rocking this thread with fire for years now!!

 

[MAHA KALA]

I wonder if there is still magic in the Neville packs. The art of selecting males is the night and day difference between the truth & frauds. Studs showcased in this thread look to be the truth.

Just curious if there's thoughts or maybe even a consensus in this thread, for haze a or c genetics for those of us that missed the train 10 or so years ago. Is digging through mns packs the way to go? Nev haze packs? Just looking for nice haze daddy without having to sort through numerous 16-20week OTH or THH or something. rdIf this is off topic or generally considered a nuisance question, please just scroll on by

Chaco & friends, very inspiring works and thanks for sharing this thread

I used two THH males on my trainwreck bx. and one guy grew it out. the plants finished within 70 days. so my males didn't prolong the flowering time hope it helps.

 

[Stardog]

Oh yeah I double pot plants all the time, esp when I have a big one and I don't want to rip it out of the container and transplant it. I picked that up from Zoolander way back as a way to pump up the yield on OG's. Usually I stick a knife into the holes at the bottom of the top pot and drop it into another half filled pot then back fill a bit to cover the holes.
I went through about 40 seeds of Nevils haze from MNS a long time ago just looking for males. It had to be 10 yrs or more and at the time it was spelled Nevilles haze and Raho informed me that Neville was the female version of Nevil so you'll only see me spelling it "Nevil" since. So I found 4 short stocky males that I used to start all the things I've done and passed the pollen around. Most of the females were just too big to be practical inside but I did find one female that I kept around for some time that finished in 80 days but I never used it for making any seeds.
The SSH I grew way back then was not the same thing as the plants I see people growing out now from more recent MNS SSH. A friend and I grew every variety MNS offered at the time and we shared our spaces. This was before all the varieties named after rock bands started being offered so I've never run any of those but the best plants we found as far as females go was a La Nina, a SSH, a Mango x Widow and that one fast Nevils. The La Nina was the best one by far. I wouldn't discount anything from MNS though , even nowadays because I've seen some great grows from recent stock. They aren't going with what's trending in the USA but I'd bet you could still find a great plant in any given pack if you look around and see what people are finding in them.
Sorry for the essay but once I get rolling I have to stop myself or I might not stop... Here's my Kosher Kush @ day 45. When I flipped her she was about 15" tall and bushy.

 

[Raho]

If I were looking for the best current haze from MNS today, I would look hard at Afghan Haze.

It's not a poly like SSH, mango, etc, so even if it is F2+, the chances of keeping the quality are better than most.
YoSammy grew a pack of them out and found an outstanding keeper.

Shanti has stated that he is using a different NL x HazeC than the 2 selections that made the name for legendary strains like SSH and Mango. (C5 #2 and C5 #122)
Probably selected from the same lot that produced those 2 old keepers, or at least a close descendant. The strains built on it should still be excellent, but different yes.
Many suggest Mango haze over SSH today as it is Shanti's line and he would not let it out without it being fire.
Today's G13 haze is another line that is known to produce monsters.

 

[Betterhaff]

If I were looking for the best current haze from MNS today, I would look hard at Afghan Haze.

It's not a poly like SSH, mango, etc, so even if it is F2+, the chances of keeping the quality are better than most.

I’ve been thinking the same after running a few of his crosses with an Afghan/Haze as the dad.

 

[Ncali]

Thank you guys for the feedback.

I've been mulling through Nevilles mango haze beans for a bit, I run a few females on the side of the room with every grow. Really good terps from some, classic woody haze to very very mango. They were decent-to-good effects, yield on some are great & some not so much... I feel males from this pool would be equally inconsistent.

I have packs of la niña, skunk haze and Afghan haze sitting in the battle chest, I think I'll check through these and look for those males with manageable growth/structure and set those aside.

Thank you guys for your sharing your thoughts and experiences. Best of luck with all the gorgeous projects listed here in the thread.


NC

 

[Raho]

Afghan haze would be at the top of the list for me.
I've read people getting incense and brown sugar/cocoa terps with strong haze effects.

I have a pack of ASH waiting to be run that I have high hopes for, but I think you're looking for more sativa than that, right?

Probably hard to go wrong with the skunk haze.
I have a friend in Mexico that picked a keeper out of current MNS skunk haze that he rates very high.

 

[OldCoolSativa]

I agree Afghan Haze is probably one of the better MNS strains to pheno hunt for good haze plants, along with Nev's Mango, Mango Haze inbred line, and Grail Widow. I'm getting ready to flower out some NHM and GW plants right now, and this summer plan to pop ~40 Afghan Haze seeds and select 5-10 of the most sativa-leaning plants in veg to flower out and see what I get.

 

[Stardog]

Completely forgot about Mango Haze. I was given a bunch of F2's from a member here a long time ago and found some great plants. They still took up my whole room but it was well worth it and it changed my perspective on F2's which was based more on folklore than facts at that time. The original packs we had of Mango Haze if I recall correctly had some good plants but no great ones like some of the others did.
I would grow hazes all day long if I could but the huge cost of power in my state and the grumpy patients keep me from doing so. Not exactly sure but I think we're second to only Hawaii for the price of power. They don't call it "Taxachusetts" for nothing..
My complaints are small considering what I'm allowed to do here with a med card. I could also run sour d everywhere as well. That would be great entertainment. Love dicking around with that baby.
My Nevs/Lucy shrunk up rather quickly into nice tight flowers but she still needs another 4-5 days before I can start trimming off the fans I left on. Hung her whole so she'd dry more slowly and so far so good but she's taking up 50% of the space she was when I first put her up.

 

[Scrappy-doo]

So I met the source for the mystery chem Sunday night at Gene Traders and scored a little 411 on it. Came from within the chem family and is speculated to be (or possibly known to be) from original seed stock. The place we were at was loud n busy and I missed some of the finer details, but isn't there 2 seeds from the original 13 that were unaccounted for? From what I gathered this might be one of them. If I'd known Chemdog was there I would have asked him about it, but didn't find out until afterwards.

 

[Chunkypigs]

Completely forgot about Mango Haze. I was given a bunch of F2's from a member here a long time ago and found some great plants. They still took up my whole room but it was well worth it and it changed my perspective on F2's which was based more on folklore than facts at that time. The original packs we had of Mango Haze if I recall correctly had some good plants but no great ones like some of the others did.
I would grow hazes all day long if I could but the huge cost of power in my state and the grumpy patients keep me from doing so. Not exactly sure but I think we're second to only Hawaii for the price of power. They don't call it "Taxachusetts for nothing..
My complaints are small considering what I'm allowed to do here with a med card. I could also run sour d everywhere as well. That would be great entertainment. Love dicking around with that baby.
My Nevs/Lucy shrunk up rather quickly into nice tight flowers but she still needs another 4-5 days before I can start trimming off the fans I left on. Hung her whole so she'd dry more slowly and so far so good but she's taking up 50% of the space she was when I first put her up.

pretty certain the electric costs here are the highest in the US these days, 23 cents a KWH here.

So I met the source for the mystery chem Sunday night at Gene Traders and scored a little 411 on it. Came from within the chem family and is speculated to be (or possibly known to be) from original seed stock. The place we were at was loud n busy and I missed some of the finer details, but isn't there 2 seeds from the original 13 that were unaccounted for? From what I gathered this might be one of them. If I'd known Chemdog was there I would have asked him about it, but didn't find out until afterwards.

dude I was pulling your leg about those cuttings coming from Chemdog, they were from another dude.

thought I had my sarcasm font on when I made the joke about getting them from Chem, sorry.

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Yeah sarcasm doesn't transfer that well to text, at least not for me lol.