Nevilles Haze X Everything....

[gmanwho]

^^^ not the voices, but that guy who is telling you, u better watch out for him! heard a few stories about him down at the pier !


how long will pollen stay viable in the freezer?

hoping to find a frosty male from these wrecked lemons or the white widow skunks. make some f2's. also would be nice to get something to chunk up the grape hash plant some more. i bet that svf pollen to the ghp would be stellar. that would keep them coming back for sure..... not like u want anymore added... just thinking outloud.

that 91 an dkush are stinking up my house at day 20.

 

[Stardog]

Honestly I've never tried saving any of my own pollen. Usually I just take what I can from the first few flowers that open up and toss the plants asap but I have had pollen sent to me on dry ice but it was not viable on arrival. A few flowers can make a load of seeds and I'm only looking for a few thousand. I'll try and save some in my freezer and see how it goes. I have one more male I just flipped and most every clone I have is flowering somewhere in one of my rooms, excepting the hashplant.
The Nevs Blueberry x lucy's are doing great and smell like the Lucy mom. I have to take one out in order to pull up some branches on my Orange Kush so I'll try to take a pic. They certainly are not lacking in vigor or odor.
My first run with this cheese clone is looking "fabulous". Looking at it from below the trichs were glistening but that doesn't tell me much aside from it being pretty. The more I know, the less I know...;-)

 

[Dog Star]

Its good to save polen.. those small laboratory vials that usually seeds come are
great to save small batches of polen for crosses,specialy if you found some combo
that works great in some crossing its great to have extra polen for repeating a cross..

haved SB polen for 5 years in freezer,it was work great if i needed to polinate some
nice girl... have already a "sperm bank" and polen collected from males in those nice vials marked by date and strain.

Now i put 3 male Old School Hashplants on flowering... waiting for some more polen
and will made 6-7 vials and then keep it in freezer..

 

[Scrappy-doo]

I've used frozen pollen that was a few years old and still viable. As long as it's dried properly I could see it lasting quite a while.

My pollen addiction is just as bad as my seed addiction. If I let a male rip I start packaging when he starts dropping and can't stop till he's done. It's a problem. I'll keep pollen from males I have no intention of working with but have to save it because "you never know...". Probably will never even use 90% of what I got.

 

[Raho]

Honestly I've never tried saving any of my own pollen. Usually I just take what I can from the first few flowers that open up and toss the plants asap but I have had pollen sent to me on dry ice but it was not viable on arrival. ...
The Nevs Blueberry x lucy's are doing great and smell like the Lucy mom. I have to take one out in order to pull up some branches on my Orange Kush so I'll try to take a pic. They certainly are not lacking in vigor or odor.

The Blueberry NL pollen used to make the NevEMM x Blue was 2 years old and kept in a paper envelope in a cool dark place in an air conditioned house (not in a fridge.)
The "strike rate" was less than fresh, but still surprisingly good.
I have some oBoy pollen from 2012 stored the same that I hope to try some day.

Scrappy is right about the importance of drying it.

• Step one is to dry it properly.
• Separate out all the veg matter from the pollen grains before storage.
• Mangling the pollen grains with too much handling in collection/processing could degrade the % viable. I am talking about scraping wet granules with cards or blades while separating from male flowers. WAIT till it's dry to work with it and then be gentle.
• Once dried, extreme methods of preservation could backfire as it seems some have experienced. Freezer burn is when moisture inside food crystallizes outside the material, leaving it tasteless and tough when thawed. I can see how freezing seeds or pollen and allowing the moisture to be sucked out and crystallize might be bad for it's chances of re-animation.
• Changes in temperature can cause condensation of moisture in sealed containers which could lead to a blob of bright yellow goop. If you refrigerate, beware of condensation.

Pollen grains are very tough, designed to survive extreme conditions in the journey to reproduction. But like seeds, they are alive and extreme preservation methods in storage can easily backfire.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

I've used frozen pollen that was a few years old and still viable. As long as it's dried properly I could see it lasting quite a while.

My pollen addiction is just as bad as my seed addiction. If I let a male rip I start packaging when he starts dropping and can't stop till he's done. It's a problem. I'll keep pollen from males I have no intention of working with but have to save it because "you never know...". Probably will never even use 90% of what I got.

That sounds like me saving fem seeds from hermie accidents in all the rooms I have run. More than likely never gonna grow them. But hey you never know when somethings gonna fall out of the sky and destroy all my seeds but those fem accidents, lol.

 

[Stardog]

Cool, I'll give it a shot. I should have enough pollen for 10x more than I'll need. This Nevs Blueberry x Lucy was being buried by my other plants in the room she was in so I pulled her out so she'd have a better chance. This one you could never tell it had any haze in her and she smells like the Lucy mom about 90%. I think she'll start to do much better now that she has more light.Pic is terrible but...

 

[Stardog]

The top end of one cheese cut laying up against the wall. This was day 32 of 12/12 and they're doing great, flowers from floor to ceiling etc. This thing can pack on the flowers for sure. We'll never know exactly what it is but it came labeled cheese from some friends who have only brought me great cuts. She certainly performs. I have better pics but having trouble sorting them at the moment.
The only real problem I'm having is the Orange Kush taking over most of the room.

 

[Stardog]

My Mr Frosty living up to it's name @ day 34 of 12/12. She's one of my favorite plants all around.

 

[rasputin]

The only real problem I'm having is the Orange Kush taking over most of the room.
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That's a good problem to have, Stardog!

Nice work on the D Kush, by the way. Smoked some that you gave to gman. That line was supremely underrated, and I can't help but think back to when dozens of packs sat on seedbay for what seemed like years.

 

[Stardog]

Oh yes indeed Ras the D-Kush is a great line. All the females I found were pretty damned good. I kept 2 and made the mistake of giving one to somebody to hold for me and...it never came back! The one I have though is good. The small ones I flipped in rockwool are turning into 2' tall bushes loaded with flowers. I have a pic somewhere of the orange kush after I fixed her up with a fishing pole, some hooks and a couple of those yoyo units. I swear, after the third defoliation I thought I had it set perfectly, the plant had other ideas...

 

[Dog Star]

Smoking now Orange Diesel V3 cut and it have nice taste on oranges and diesel in same parts.. very nice sativa effects but i cut it with a BHO oil tobacco soaked mixture and now a stone is better balanced but a bit overhelming after i smoked half of jo.. ;D

have only one person lately i exchange stuff and clones here where i live,understand what you talking about as sometimes people are ignorant and dont give a damn no matter how good previouss you was on them.. live and learn..

he gives me back Amnesia Core cut and thats why i will give him in future again
if he needs some plant.. but a circle is narrow cause of experiences..

 

[Stardog]

The last of the female Nevs Blueberry x Sour Grape. Flipped her a bit too big and she went straight for the roof so I knuckled as many branches as I could reach and I'll just hope for the best. I have mothers of this one since the other two turned out so well. This one is equally smelly in the grape dept so next time I'll be sure to keep her lower. It's hard to tell from the pics because my camera distorts things but both these plants, the Orange and the Grape cross are really big. It's only day 36 of 12/12 for both so we've a ways to go before they really start to shine.

 

[Stardog]

Same thing here Dogstar, my circle is really small and tight. Despite legalization I'm running lower key than I ever have because I know that the bigger money interests don't want me around. The only thing legalization has done for me is give me a headache. I still only trust about 5 people and 4 of them are from IC...it's a shame but it's true.

 

[Stardog]

Crazy issue here with my male. The flowers open, petals spread out, tap them with my finger lightly from below and no pollen. I've done this 100x, I did have one flower dust my finger a bit so I ran it over my sour d. The other 50 flowers I've tried just fell to the floor without dropping a grain of pollen. Weird. I have another male on deck so we'll see if it's just the one plant, a really healthy, vigorous one as well so I can't explain it. I'll try again today in about 5 minutes...

 

[budelight]

Hey there, could you share a little about your breeding setup? Do you keep makes in the shed or a separate pollen chucking tent?

Interested too hear why the male might be dropping balls vs dropping pollen. Which male are you throwing over the sour? With any luck I'll have some ecsd x deep chunk seeds ripening up over the next few weeks.

Hope your keeping humidity down and not having any issues like the outdoor growers these past week or two. I needed to find out if our outdoor Gg4 is still in good shape after the storms passed.

PS, is the d-Kush the same as the orange Kush?

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Your guy shootin blanks?
Put some oyster puree in his next meal, maybe that'll get him in the mood.

I've had a male or two do the same thing before. Some just don't have any sauce.

 

[gmanwho]

that male from seed or clone?

if from seed i wonder if the males will delay maturity like some females will do from seed. i would imagine it is a good possibility. sometimes if you put them into 12/12 to early the flowering could be delayed, more so then if it was a clone of the same plant later on when grown. for this maybe the males need a few more weeks to mature before 12/12. or hold that one where it is an see what happens over the next few weeks.

whenever i saw a female from seed do this it seemed to be always be behind about 10days(give or take) in flower at the day 20 mark. it was like the first 10 days of 12/12 it was still in veg mode.



if you dont have it lined up already, i'd love to hit the hash plant with the sfv pollen. i got a few hp im gettign ready to veg out. i day dream about this one the last few days..... i could see it being similar in ways to the dank franks bluedigiberry u had at one point. atleast i think it was df's bluedigiberry.

1) the hp is already covered, an 2) maybe the sfv potency an thickness could bring the thunder...

i should just break out the colloidal silver.

anyone know if its true that a clone will hold its original maturity date from seed?

loving the show!!!!!! still some nice days ahead to get out there

 

[Stardog]

This male was fairly old when I flipped it. I'd guess it was 3 months in veg before I flipped it. I ended up just ripping it out of the slab and replacing it with another one. I did take some branches and set them in a cup of water to see if any flowers would open and drop some pollen. I started these SFV BX3's back in May and some are still in veg, one of them in straight hydrocorn is gigantic, I'm just waiting for the weather to turn a bit before I turn any more lamps on. These last few weeks have been a trying time with the weather etc...Things could be much worse though, my complaints are minimal really.
BUD, the D-Kush is from Karma Chem D x SFV Bx2. It's a beast of a plant and if you wanted it would be by far the biggest plant in your garden short of a haze or haze hybrid etc. The Orange Kush is another animal entirely. One of these males will make some pollen. This is the first time I've ever had this issue where the flowers just open up and drop to the floor without a speck of dust excepting the one that dusted my finger very lightly.
The outdoor Sour Grape is more or less destroyed, bud rot set in and that's all she wrote on that one. I'm not sure any outdoor plant that I have could have made it through 19 days of rain and clouds. All the plants I have finish in October.

 

[Stardog]

Most of if not all of the flowering plants in my shop are firing so despite the dud of a male I had my mid October is going to be aflame with flowers. I have a fairly large Lucy just starting to fire off some flowers. I've had to keep a few lamps off but she's still doing just fine.