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Need help!! Nute lock out??

FishmanK

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dog fight!
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marrdogg

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No dog fight just a difference of opinion please don't instigate we have enough of that on IC already.
PEACE!
 

Scrappy-doo

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OK man whatever you say.

I'm curious though, what nute deficiency caused his plants to do this?

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Cause I've never seen a ph imbalance cause anything that looks like that. Please educate me I like learning new things.
 

superx

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Must be said, in all my years or growing i have never taking high/low humidity to heart, DURING THE VEG PERIOD sorry for the cap letters.

I have never recorded an influx of deficiency, i have veged from as low as 10% humidity to as high as 90%, guess what? the plants look the same and the end product the exact.

Transpiration, which is evaporation from plant to leaves, nothing to worry about unless your taking samples and are growing in the lab, stop making things sound so difficult your growing a weed plant plant ffs, do you grow any other plants apart from weed?
 

superx

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Scrappy doo, maybe post a pic of a plant which is suffering from low-humidity..?

Intrigued.....
 

Phaeton

Speed of Dark
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Simple mag deficiency can make ya plants look like that.
PEACE!
I am in this thread because I had some plants with pretty much identical problems.
Playing with pH did not help, reducing ppm on nutrients did not help, dropping temps did not help, different genetics made no difference.

I settled on magnesium shortage and am giving Epsom Salts for the past ten days.
The damage stopped advancing so I am thinking magnesium may have been the answer in this particular case. Hoping the sulfur will help aroma as well.

This was not a problem two years ago. The city updated it's water purification system about that time and had a public announcement warning of cloudy water for the first months as it was a major equipment change.
The water used to be hard with over 350 ppm of minerals, now it is under 200, I blame the new water.
 

bgandgrow

Member
Well they seem to be getting better, starting to turn Green again. I'm gonna get some cal-mag to see if that improves anything. Appreciate all the info so far it's truly helping! Note I do you use straight out of the focet well water its a little hard I saw a ring form in my container. Might play a role in the problem?
 
Well they seem to be getting better, starting to turn Green again. I'm gonna get some cal-mag to see if that improves anything. Appreciate all the info so far it's truly helping! Note I do you use straight out of the focet well water its a little hard I saw a ring form in my container. Might play a role in the problem?

It certainly could be part of the issue. What is ppm/EC of the water out of the tap? I wouldn't think you would need cal/mag with well water.

I use well water on my outdoor plants that are in organic soil mix but use RO water on the indoor that I am adding nutes to.
 

mfdoo0mm

Member
Im glad somebody stepped in to give some correct advice. Whats this about lights when op said in first post his ph was 5.8-6.4 and what hes feeding. I just skimmed real quick but is thete even a base nutrient used?
PEACE!
Yes I saw that but why wouldn't you also tell op about his nute program. And no I have had absolutely healthy plants thrown right under 1000w straight out the rooter! I veg under 1000w nanolux de's at this exact moment turned all the way the fuck up with no probs. If plants are healthy no thats not an issue if your temps are under control and hell 38% humidity in my situation it's pretty much like that now with no problems.

So with that being said if op would have followed your advice he would still be posting sick plants on this thread.
PEACE!

No dog fight just a difference of opinion please don't instigate we have enough of that on IC already.
PEACE!

You're extremely confrontational. But also funny! Your last post is a good example of irony.
 

dimebag_

Active member
marrdoggie…what happened to ur post man..hahaha….^^^^caught her before she was gone.

bgngrow-wassup kid..lots of correct advice already

What did you change to make the plants start to get greener already?? keep doing that…haha

first off, its ok for ph to fluctuate a bit but you should prob try to have it be more consistently the same number everyday or real close.- 5.8 for hydro and I think about 6 for soil. Certain nutrients are absorbed more at different ph levels and others are locked out at certain ph levels, so keeping it around 6 allows for all the nutrients that cannabis needs to be avail to the plant.

Then, if you already switched ur lights to 20/4 then I wouldn't re-adjust it. But if not, 24 hrs on is okay for clones rooting and early veg. But then I think 18/6 is prob better than 20/4 up until flip. I find that my plants grow just as fast, if not faster on 18/6 as they do on 24 light. Plus they do important things while they're sleepin (real specific…haha) Also its better to have your lights too high than too low. Put your hand palm down at plant level- it shouldn't feel super hot on the back of your hand. If it does your lights are too low. Plants generally like it on the warmer side during veg and early flower. Then after that, cooler temps for mid and late bloom.

You're prob sounds like a mag deficiency like a couple dudes mentioned, but hard to say for sure. well water typically has enough calcium/magnesium already. If you google cannabis deficiencies, there are sites with charts and descriptions with pics of leaves with every def u can imagine (like groweedeasy.com and couple others). And you can figure it out that way sometimes.
good luck man
cheers

heres a ph availability chart:


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...lm00D_lHKsp7kRw3HY6CxmfA&ust=1457578018112383

db-
 

bgandgrow

Member
I'm at 1.37 gall the roots are starting to show on the drain holes, gotta flip soon cause I'm running out of room. I've got them at 20/4 just ordered ec/tds meter and cal mag. I put a base 4-4-4 dry fert on the soil. Seems to be helping.
 
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thesloppy

OK man whatever you say.

I'm curious though, what nute deficiency caused his plants to do this?

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Cause I've never seen a ph imbalance cause anything that looks like that. Please educate me I like learning new things.

I hate to even bring up the possibility, but while that does look similar to low-humidity 'taco leaves', hemp russet mites will also make your leaves look just like that (though not necessarily with the yellowing) and rapidly start to kill vegetative growth once they've taken hold. I speak from very recent, unfortunate experience.

If you've got a 50X or more microscope, check the stems of your plants for HRM. Without a microscope (or one that's powerful enough) they can be tough to detect before it's too late....if you don't have a scope, look for a covering of brown dust on the leaf stems of the most affected shoots (that's not dust!). Hopefully that's NOT your problem. The Carson MicroBrite Plus is a decent cheap scope, (which can be an essential garden tool) and the best of the handful I've tried.
 
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