Mr GreenJeans First Cab Grow!

[Mr GreenJeans]

Hiya gog!

Thanks for the input!!! Nitrogen overdose - probably so, the curling developed after giving the CaMg+ - so in my impatience I probably gave too much too quickly, or stoner me dumped in tablespoon instead of teaspoon doses Probably should give them a good flush followed by a conservative feed, watcha think?

Hiya Leeroy! Thanks for stoppin by, I think they lined up to give ya a salute :wink:

 

[gift of gab]

That would make sense, as the calmag has some nitrogen I believe. Giving them a tablespoon instead of a teaspoon would be a major overdose. Just a bump in the road. I agree, a flush followed by a conservative feeding should get them back on track.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Thanks gog... luckily only the 2 smallest girls - the one's I - ahem - dropped during transplant - have the curly leaves - I'll flush these 2 out and keep my eyes on the others. If other's start curlin I'll do them too.

Lesson #2 - don't assume that just because all 6 plants are the same strain, that they will have the same nute requirements... Good lesson to learn. I should've known better - these 2 smaller ones were showing no Mg deficiency, I hit them with the same solution as the other plants as an - ahem - preventative, and curled their witlle weaves

Ok - I gonna be flushin tonight

 

[gift of gab]

Ah man Im with ya on lesson #2, I learned that one on my last run. Good call on only flushing the smaller, most effected girls. Id hit the others with plain ph'ed watering when its time and see if that isn't enough.

 

[deZerTomB]

Huge monsters ya got there green jeans, very impressive, keep up the good work & updates.

deZ

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

deZ -

Thanks for stopping in and the compliment!!! :friends:

gog - good idea - the others get a cool sip of pHed water tonight... Thanks for the idea!

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Flush flush flush

Flush flush flush

Just got done. When I looked closely all the plants had tip curl on at least 1/3 of the buds, so decided to bite the bullet and flush 'em all. Flushed them with pH 6 water until the runoff colorless and clear - took a lot of flushing. Then each got a quart 1/2 str CalMag+ and 1/2 str PBP Bloom at pH 5.8 - runoff pH 6.5.

Now to watch 'em perk up....

I definitely know the Vaportec is working now - I flushed them outside, and that wonderful lemon diesel smell was pretty strong by the time I was done. 30 minutes back in the cab and no smell. Man, technology can be great!

 

[gift of gab]

keep us updated, Im sure they will bounce back.

 

[Guest]

Mr Gj
I did tha same thing but with guano. Way to much N and i just flushed with PH h2o
they bounced back fairly quickly.. I think alot of us tend to think sometimes more is better.. I know im guilty.. Anyhow they look friggn great.. What size are those pots?
Ial Be bock... peace..

Sack's First Outdoor Grow
Our grow has adopted some new family members.. LQQK!!

sack :friends:

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

gog and sow -

Pot sizes - 3 3 gal and 3 5 gal. The plants in the 5 gal are definitely bigger. In the group shots the 5 gal are at the corners of the back row, and the center plant in the front row.

Thanks for the great emotional support! Since the leaf tips are just curling and not frying, I'm sure they will bounce back quickly. Definitely quicker than my elbows

Meanwhile back at the farm, I had to water the mums / clones today, so while I was there I snapped some pictures.

Trainwreck Mum 1 - This one was the runt of the 6, still pretty small, but producing enough to harvest clones. She's lst'ed although the main trunk is still not very long. I was thinking of keeping this one as the permanent TW mother.


Trainwreck Mum 2 - This one has been growing well, been lst'ed pinched, pruned - don't know if you can see it from this angle, but it has 2 main branches I've trained to form a horizontal S around the center. This one would be a monster if I veged it a while under MH, so I'm hoping to start this in July. I'm hoping to veg it enough to get a full horizontal figure 8 before putting to flower.


Next up, 2 goo clones that went into soil 2 weeks ago. I'm debating flowering both of them or just one. The larger one was fimmed this past weekend. I've been looking around, but can't find out much about goo, except that a lot of medusers seem to like it. Looks indica with nice short internode spacing.


Finally, the old lady of the bunch, the one remaining Morning Star clone that I nearly killed in Feb. After 3 months of growing straight up, I trimmed it down to 1-2 nodes all around ( except the top branch ), used bonsai wire to bend the trunk 90 degrees, and lst'ed the top branch. It's currently shaped into a horizontal U and almost ready to use for clones.


Got some nice choices to start in July. Pretty exciting to be thinking about a second grow starting pretty soon....

Cya! :friends:

 

[gift of gab]

GJ Id keep one of the goo clones for a mum, assuming those are the only 2 you have.

Pretty exciting to be thinking about a second grow starting pretty soon....

Indeed, won't be long till your running a nice perpetual I bet. Just don't lose focus on whats in front of ya right now, Im sure you wont.

 

[Sleepy]

nice bonsai action!!

the plants look great, MGJ!!

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

gog - yeah - more I think about it you're right on - should save one of the goos for a mom.

Know what you mean - stay focused. Luckily the plants in the mother room are easy to take care of, bare minimum food and water. Won't have to do much with them until next grow. Maybe take a few clones in a week or 2.

Sleepy!

Thanks man! I love twisting plants. You like bonsai? Here's a few in my stable... There's a blue 8 oz dixie cup for size comparison...

A Micro Serissa Foetida - Chinese Snow Rose


Boxwood in training


An Unknown elm variety in training


And a Micro Fuschia left front, Japanese Azalea right rear


Another few hours til lights on...

L8r

 

[GMT]

I love these pics. I tried many years ago to grow bonsia and failed miserably. I dont get it at all. why arent the leaves the normal size like on a small twig? Why arent the roots out growing the tub? Why Why Why? Bonsia is wierd. But I love your collection.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Hiya GMT
Thanks! I killed bonsai regularly the first 5 years I was growing them. The secret - like with 420 - is selection. Have to match the plant to the environment. If you are growing them inside, you need to stick with subtropicals - temperate plants will die in a year + from lack of dormant period. If you grow outdoors in an area where there are real winters, don't get subtropicals. Most everyone I know starts out growing a juniper indoors. If they don't get very cold and few light hours for a least a coupla months, they turn brown and die after a year.

Anyway - like with 420 I like to grow 'em and don't fuss with them much.

Glad you like the pics! The serissa and fuschia have ultra miniature leaves and flowers because they are dwarf varieties. The fuschia flowers are like3-4 mm long!!!

Thanks again!

 

[Guest]

Mr GJ
Have you always grown in soil indoors? And how bad really is the bugs problem?
been thinking really about going soil and hydro this next grow. Ill take care of one. Nephew the other.. So we are a lil paranoid about the mites, gnats, sphids.etc...
Can ya shed some light a lil bit? Thanx.Or anyone for that matter..peace..

Sack's First Outdoor Grow
Our grow has adopted some new family members.. LQQK!!

sack :friends:

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

sow
Last time I grew a lot indoors, I was in NYC doing indoor bonsai, no bug problems and I took no precautions - I was very lucky. Once I moved out West, the climate is mild enough to keep all the plants outdoors... Except this one... an experiment I started 10 years ago with a twisted Costco ficus. No bugs, in the same pot and soil since 2000, gets one cup of water a week and 1/4 str fert 2-3x / yr. Only sunlight is indirect through the closed shades.


Indoor 420 is a whole different ball of wax. I think the bugs stay away from my other plants 'cause I treat them to stunt them. Not the fattest plants on the block. If I grew 420 like this I'd need an ocean of green to get a hit

I have an occassional little fly in my current grow - taking heed from GrowDoc, racqueteer, and others - I spray down the soil surface with neem every week, when the girls were young I dipped 'em twice a week for 2 weeks in neem solution ( they were NorCal club clones ), twice a month one of their waterings I load up with neem, I have 2 fans one blowing down across the plants from the top left corner and one low down on the right oscillating fan, On the large fan up top I hang a no pest strip and change it once a month. So far I have only seen an occasional fly - when I do I surface spray the soil and the lower growth with neem. I have a pyrethrin bomb just in case they get out of hand - the plan being to dump it in the cab at lights out and leave the exhaust fan off until lights on. I also filter the intake - can't hurt.

My mum / clone room is an itsy bitsy space just large enough for a shop light and a small fan. I have 6 plants in there, haven't had to neem them in a month+.

So get soiled! Think you'll like it!

If you get good soil, clean down the cab between grows, and take a few precautions you won't have much trouble.

 

[Sleepy]

beautiful bonsai!!!

no, unfortunately i don't have any, but i am a big fan.

heres one i saw at a conservatory a few years back...its supposedly 90 years old.

 

[zeppelindood]

wow... that is very pretty!
nice Mr G... Sleepy...

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Sleepy - thanks! I learned from a friend in the 80s, been killin 'em ever since! That's a really beautiful Chinese Ginko - I do believe it's 90 years old. I have a few that are 20+ years, the Chinese Snow Rose is 10. Time flies with these little beasties. Thanks for posting that pic!

zep! Thanks very much!