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MountZionCollec

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Seems like a great plan, however some of those amendments look in excess to me. The one that really jumps out at me is the Boran, 1 lb of borax per 1000sq ft?

You seem like you know what your doing, so maybe you could explain how you came up with this soil mix? Soil tests? Years past experience ext ext.... Thank you, love to hear from the pro's.



I have 2 different soils in my yard. The area where the fire came through years ago and burned out a huge open space is where my outdoor garden is and where this soil test was taken. The boron amount in this area is almost zero. SoilmineralsDOTCOM did the analysis. I bumped up some of his recommendations. I bumped the boron from .9 to 1Lb to make the math easier.

I wouldn't say I know what I'm doing :), I would say I'm starting to kind of know what I'm doing.
 

Lochinvar

Member
i went with Michael as well. I sure hope my soil has the shit balanced out of it. he seems to know what he is doing. I can't wait to see how this year treats you. all those seeds, you are bound to find some yummy treasures. will you clone each female before august, or will you be saving pollen from the males. Please don't lose any potential gems. I lke what you are doing good luck
 

Phenome

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ICMag Donor
I've made 10 passes with the tiller in all gardens and still pulling out layers of rocks. I think after 10 passes my soil is just now reaching "field quality status" as I just now have a pure 6" of soil with no rocks, and a few more feet apparently filled with them. It isn't like its a straight layer of rocks beyond 6". I'm going to keep going until I have 9" with zero rocks, the dep of the tiller and tne pick axe my apprentice has been swinging hundreds of times daily breaking up the soil and rocks.

Adding amendments now.
Per 1000 square feet

50 pounds calphos
50 pounds fish bone meal
70 pounds oyster shell
25 LB Epsom salt
20 LB cab meal
20 LB feather meal
20LB kelp meal
20Lb Azomite
1 LB borax, mule team
15 LB Iron ferrous sulfate 20%
3 LB Redmond salt
7 LB Manganese sulfate 32%
1.8Lb Copper sulfate 25%
2.5LB Zinc sulfate 35%
Humate Ore 10 pounds
1" of hummus
Thin layer of gypsum
1/2-1" of old orgsnic potting soil
:yes:
Very helpful
 

MountZionCollec

Active member
i went with Michael as well. I sure hope my soil has the shit balanced out of it. he seems to know what he is doing. I can't wait to see how this year treats you. all those seeds, you are bound to find some yummy treasures. will you clone each female before august, or will you be saving pollen from the males. Please don't lose any potential gems. I lke what you are doing good luck

Micheal is a badass, his book is really amazing. in July I will be taking cuts on all outdoor garden, then the hoophouse in August. It'll be like 500-600 cuttings. Then I will kill half after harvest. I will only get 300 cannabinoid-terpinoid-mold test to choose my mothers for the next year. I'm guessing I'll keep 100-150, about 10 cuts per strain to run next year to help me select the 5 best females. I want a few Mrs. Perfects per strain that I can pass around our beautiful county. A rough plan.

I will be requesting you come by the farm when I set up the mother plant room to store my cuttings in June I hope Ull be available I know ur busy!
 

Phenome

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ICMag Donor
Micheal is a badass, his book is really amazing. in July I will be taking cuts on all outdoor garden, then the hoophouse in August. It'll be like 500-600 cuttings. Then I will kill half after harvest. I will only get 300 cannabinoid-terpinoid-mold test to choose my mothers for the next year. I'm guessing I'll keep 100-150, about 10 cuts per strain to run next year to help me select the 5 best females. I want a few Mrs. Perfects per strain that I can pass around our beautiful county. A rough plan.

I will be requesting you come by the farm when I set up the mother plant room to store my cuttings in June I hope Ull be available I know ur busy!
:jawdrop:
 

Lochinvar

Member
Micheal is a badass, his book is really amazing. in July I will be taking cuts on all outdoor garden, then the hoophouse in August. It'll be like 500-600 cuttings. Then I will kill half after harvest. I will only get 300 cannabinoid-terpinoid-mold test to choose my mothers for the next year. I'm guessing I'll keep 100-150, about 10 cuts per strain to run next year to help me select the 5 best females. I want a few Mrs. Perfects per strain that I can pass around our beautiful county. A rough plan.

I will be requesting you come by the farm when I set up the mother plant room to store my cuttings in June I hope Ull be available I know ur busy!

id be honored. ill shower up real good so i dont bring broads and russets with me. :)
 

MountZionCollec

Active member
The waves of change are upon us!

On Tuesday my county could vote to extend the property line cutoff from 30' to 75
. Originally I thought most of the outdoor garden would not be illegal to grow in but yesterday I went out and measured and it's not looking awful. Out of 4500 square feet of growing spacing (not walkways) 2000' is good and 2500' is too close so I'll put veggies in there.

In the hoophouse they may say it is all bad because it's partly within the 75' or I'm hoping they'll let meet grow veggies (pepper, eggplant) in the 40' long top Portion and then cannabis in the 41'-92' long portion.

The veggie garden is about 2500 in size and now I will move only cannabis into here and the veggies into the cannabis garden within that 75' distance.

Will be doing a large farmers market starting in August, expecting 2000-5000 pounds of produce on about 10 different types of fruits and veggies, 10-30 different types per as I'm looking for the absolute best within different types.

All done tilling in the outdoor, done with hoophouse tomorrow and veggie garden Wednesday. Sheep arrive in 10 days now and chickens also about 10 days away.

County is also asking for a 5k permit fee so I won't have the cash to get certified kind this year.
 

Manivelle

Member
Veteran
is planting some gree fertilizer like alfalfa is considered as a cultivation? there is plenty other stuff to grow on free space :) clovershamrock are good for fixating nitrogen from the air and put it directly in the ground.
 

MountZionCollec

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Germinated the first 500 yesterday. Schnazzleberry #2, BC sweet Kush, Jack pine, sweet Jack, bubba kush*jack-bubba jack?...there was an issue and I'm still waiting on the second half of my outdoor crop which should arrive by late next week I'm hoping. Will post pics of setup soon.

Sheep arrived and are doing great. Irrigation is ordered will be installing next week.

Outdoor hill garden all amended and ready to go. Hoophouse all rocks have been removed amending tomorrow. Outdoor flat garden will be getting amended today, my neighbor passed through many times with his tractor to scrap out the first few layers of rocks. I've also tilled it about 25 times.

The veggie garden will consist mostly of about 150 watermelons, 150 melons, 150 tomatoes, 75-100 summer squash, 50 cucumbers for pickling then a mix of many types of veggies. Hoophouse will have 10 drip lines spaced every two feet in width with a .6 emitter every 12". I'll plant a pepper or eggplant under each drip hole. For the veggies I will place 3-4 seeds at the spacing I want to ensure a healthy plant germinates. I am testing many varieties this year to test what is the best across the board, but most importantly the highest flavor and nutrition of the fruit which I will test with my brix meter. Once I find the best varieties of the types I will grow I will begin a reasonably proper breeding program to produce my own seeds and further perfect them for my local environment. Can't imagine wanting to save more then about 5-10 types of each variety of produce. Will also do a massive winter crop (cabbage, carrots, beets etc) and a large crop in tne hoophouse of hardier summer produce. Looking to supply a year round farmers market roughly every 2 weeks.

Chickens arrive on Friday, will be kept in house for 2 weeks to harden them off for the outdoors. 35 for me and 25 for my neighbor.

My county has passed an urgency cultivation ordinance so I'll be all registered within the next month. No plant limit, just by square footage I'll be all legal.


Things have been crazy and busy as fuck, finally starting to regain my balance internally and externally. Waves have been constant and relentless this winter and spring.
 

MountZionCollec

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After 4 full days ~20 seeds have germinated. Temp is 50 at night, upper 50s to lower 80s during day. Ideally I would have space to germ indoor at constant above 80 degrees but couldn't do it this time very curious to see the germ rate and speed in this setup.

Chicks are doing Awsome. Wife has been wiping butts like crazy, only lost 1 so far.
 

MountZionCollec

Active member
As of yesterday morning 65 had germinated.

As if this morning 111 had germinated.

Sweet skunk 36/90
Schnazzleberry #2 21/120
Jack pine 20/120
BC sweet Kush 18/110
Bubba Kush Jack 17/70

Chickens still doing great, same as sheep. Going to pick up another livestock guardian breed puppy soon, maybe today. its mostly Akbash/Anatolian + little great pyrennes. Parents and family members all working dogs. My current dog isn't able to handle all the guard duty. She's half Great Pyrenees, 1/4 German Shepherd and 1/4 lab.
 

FoothillFarming

Active member
Schnazzleberry?

Do the Schnazzleberries taste like Schnazzleberries? (Super Troopers)

Hoping for a big day with seed sprouts for you, I am hoping you get 95%+.
 

MountZionCollec

Active member
Currently about 175 have germinated, With about 20 being culled for problems. The biggest mistake I did was get into a rush with this first batch. I should have post poned the first batch until after the storms blew threw. I popped them late Monday night in a hurry to get them going before we got hit with a week of cool cloudy and wet weather starting on Thursday. I also think the electronic temp meter is wrong. Says it stayed in 50s, but now that is getting into the 90s and the reader doesn't show that I think it was actually getting down into the 40s.

The next mistake I made was watering the pots too often for that extremely wet environment.

If I could germ inside I would but no room this year. From the seeds that have germinated some look EXTREMELY vigorous and healthy so I will AT MINIMUM find a keeper mother to run for next year while I continue popping seeds for half my crop in 2017.

The sweet skunk*jack is what has impressed me the most. Even with the awful introduction into the world 50% have germinated and a SIGNIFICANT, like almost all, are in perfect health.

The first 50 Panama DC arrived yesterday. I will get them going today.

I really have no patience for weakness. Any weakness or falling prey to pest/disease or nutrient imbalances and I'm yanking them. I have the desire to use zero pesticides This year. If I yank half the garden so be it.

I am excited to get the next 50 seeds going to see how the rate improves with the much warmer weather and keeping better soil moisture levels.

I will also be purchasing 100 cuttings. I am not sure on the spacing yet, it will depend on how many seeds I get to germinate, but I'm leaning towards 3 or 4'. I'm thinking of going with dark heart Nursury.

-the white.....purple Cadillac....pre-98 bubba Kush....ghost og....3Xcrazy....purple Kush....Skywalker og....kens GdP...SFv OG*afghani 1....Skywalker og.

Got my new puppy!! Finally, finally I understand how to properly raise and interact with livestock guardian breed puppies and dogs. I only had to fuck up one Caucasian shepherd to realize there was a lesson to be learned. The new puppy I now know is roughly 75% akbash, 20% Anatolian, 5% Great Pyrenees, all roughly. She's 16 weeks old and was born with the goats.
 

gorilla ganja

Well-known member
Sounds like a super busy time for you. So many seed starts, I can't wait to see what you end up with for "Keepers".
Can we get a pic of the new dog if you get a chance please.
looks like paradise is coming together with a lot of hard work.

Peace GG
 

MountZionCollec

Active member
good start.

what county?

Haha well it's been an epic rough start, and spring, and I don't even wanna mention the winter or last fall.... :) but I think I'm about to smooth out this crash landing over the next couple weeks, hoping for redemption with these next germinations. My greenhouse went from jungle to desert, 100 degrees and low humidity so that's fried a good number of this first batch. At least all next batches won't have nights in the 40s!


I'm in calaveras county.
 

MountZionCollec

Active member


1) 16 week old akbash
2) 2 year old most Great Pyrenees
3) flat garden! About 2750 square feet, or close to 3k. Planting regular seeds every 2.5', fem every 3', cuttings every 4'

Pine needles are laid down.
 

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