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Mount Zion 2016
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MountZionCollec
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Slowly putting in more rows. Some MASSIVE rocks are stopping me in one area so I'll have tbe neighbor come and dig them out with his tractor. It's on the side where the fence will go so he won't need to drive all over my soil. I've been using a pick axe quite effectively so get some chunkers out, but some are like 4' in all directions. Very rocky soil.
Once I get the rows put in I can put in an order for my drip irrigation. I will run drip emitters down the length of the rows. I'm not sure yet the type yet, or the spacing of the holes, or how many lines I want to use per row. Right now the minimum I am leaning towards is two lines, 1/2 gallon per hour, spaced every 12", in a 1/4" piping.
I will use Pine needles for my mulch. Once they've been out in the rain for a month or 2 there ph is equalized to rain water.
My friend who has a farm 20 minutes away has offered to let me use his tiller to till up my rows. Not sure on the model but it sounded like he bought a good one. Finally getting some half time help on the farm. My cousin is bout to move out here, I'll let him do the tilling.
On Sunday the pops and momma folk will be arriving from "the region" to help build the hoophouse. Will be all finished by next Thursday.
The second picture is the grape vines I put in. I will have 100 grapes (18 varieties) on the left of the garden and 32 berries (all different varieties of blackberries, rasberries, hybrids of the two) on the right side of the garden. Ground squirrels already ate 3 grapes.
I purchased a rotonater that will be arriving soon so I can start blasting ground squirrel holes as they are truly a menace on my spot.
Then I need to get an electric fence put up around the cannabis garden and and totally fenced in vegetable garden of 50x50'
Finish up the chicken coup and get my chickens ordered.
Get a cat to eat and scare the squirrels.
And potentially order some sheep. I'm wanting to get some Awassi that were just let into the USA a few years ago and a few breeders are now selling commercially.
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man , you need to get some machinery in there . a small excavator . mound that place up in no time .
Is that true about the pine needles? Awesome.
MountZionCollec
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A small excavator would be love, but I only have couple big rocks left and I'm worried that if I mounded up my whole hillside with no erosion control in place that it would basically be a giant mud pile that would be a nightmare to work in Laying down the rocks/wood and then trying to till up the soil. It would be mandatory if I was using holes or mounds but growing many plants in rows, and with not much soil depth already I'm most concerned with holding on to the soil I have.
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http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/2702/
http://www.pinestrawdirect.com/pine...ngfactfromfictionthroughanalyticaltesting.pdf
Once there brown there not going to do any real changes to your soil. It is really awsome! Better then any other mulch and it's everywhere for free and it's sustainable.
MountZionCollec
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Really great idea. I have a wicked grasshopper problem each year early summer so I will be employing this! I've heard of chickens foraging on clover and similar, u think once my plants are 1' tall there safe from the chickens? It'll be perfect my chicken coup is right next to my garden.
Some serious work happening on your mountain. I love the look of your soil, dark and friable.
The grasshoppers will be a welcomed feast, just the chickens being in the vicinity scares the shit out of pests.
A foot tall I'd say bigger they'd most likely dig them up while foraging, a harem of chickens can do alot of damage real quick. Test em out, eventually they'll relish the opportunity to find themselves tasty treats.
The grasshoppers will be a welcomed feast, just the chickens being in the vicinity scares the shit out of pests.
A foot tall I'd say bigger they'd most likely dig them up while foraging, a harem of chickens can do alot of damage real quick. Test em out, eventually they'll relish the opportunity to find themselves tasty treats.
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i,ve done long rows on steep hill sides , no problem . no erosion at all . if anything the water is trapped above the mound a seeps into the base of the mound . i,m talking lots of rain .
i kinda think your making this a lot harder than it needs to be . its actually prevents erosion i,m pretty sure terracing a hill . you could in fact terrace it and have foot or so in between the beds and have the original grass thats there as walk ways . your going to want walk ways to leave some room to allow the plants to grow out . i would recommend .
not saying your wrong . just saying seems to be a lot of work that could be done a lot faster and better . digging beds turns soil air rates and loosens the soil couple feet deep at-least . though i would do it a month before i planned using it minimum .
just offering ideas . i,m just a bit surprised you chose this way . especially such a large plant grow .
best wishes anyway , good learning trying new things . maybe next year can pull a machine in and dig it .
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With the waterboard certification and the certified kind orgization I can't just terrace or move earth without permission. I would not allowed to do the recommendation you have with Either certifying agency. To move more then 27 yards of soil and then to post that information under my certifying name would be begging for problems. The only way to legally move that much "earth" would require waterboard approval, county permits, and certified kind approval. Plus all the costs of equipment and time spent getting approval. I have thought out my plan very carefully even if it "surprises you". I am not looking for perfection. I am looking for what works best for me in a sustainable way, that's affordable and that will require little additional maintenance over multiple years and that doesn't require additional permits. I not be changing my garden next year.
I only have 2' of soil AT BEST. So no I will never be terracing.
I have walkways. 2.5" irrigated/amended soil and 2.5' walk space with .5" rocks/wood.
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yeah , didn't know what hoops you had to jump through to achieve my suggestion , i,m just saying the practical way . you said you were worried about erosion , when in fact its the opposite . it would improve erosion .
permission to move dirt , wow . ok .
maybe you could get a donkey and a plow , haha just jokes .
enjoying the show , whens the seedlings go in ?
permission to move dirt , wow . ok .
maybe you could get a donkey and a plow , haha just jokes .
enjoying the show , whens the seedlings go in ?
I'm one to usually bend the rules, but I'm with you on walking a straight line atm. You don't want to give the state ANY reason to come knocking. The level of scrutiny that rec farmers are coming across in OR at the moment is high. CA will not play nice if you poke the bear.
You know some old school rancher or farmer could grade the fuck out of whatever and get nothing more than a friendly wave from neighbors passing by. A piece of equipment heads down the driveway of a young, ambitious canna farmer and the inspector is there before you've even unloaded it off the trailer.
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i,m not trying to spark a debate , as i know nothing about the rules or laws there .
but if your been granted the number of plants you are allowed ( hundreds ) then i,m sure who ever you would need to speak too , has to realise and make good judgment call and know it requires some form of earthworks . its pretty logical conclusion .
anyways all the same , you have chosen to do it the way you have , and as you say , it all takes time and money .
will be a good show regardless .
but if your been granted the number of plants you are allowed ( hundreds ) then i,m sure who ever you would need to speak too , has to realise and make good judgment call and know it requires some form of earthworks . its pretty logical conclusion .
anyways all the same , you have chosen to do it the way you have , and as you say , it all takes time and money .
will be a good show regardless .
Since your working with Michael, maybe you could give a little info as to why he shined everybody else on? Maybe he's too busy. Maybe he doesn't care and makes enough $. He should at least have an automated response that tells people he's too busy and wont be responding to their emails. Myself and a few others waited for weeks to hear back from him and nothing. I'm cool with somebody being up front and saying their too loaded with work. But when he responds with "It could take me a few days to get back to you, but I will get back to you" and then doesn't, its pretty fuckin lame.
maybe he took an easter vacation with his family. i was worried as well, but he got back to me a couple days ago. luckily i have sourced the amendments from the 1st few recs he gave me a couple weeks ago. he says the rest should be done in a week. hes prolly swamped. i will refrain from bad-mouthing the man that is completing my soil rec work. believe me, i know time is short. good luck
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