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Mount Zion 2016
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Sounding super nice MtZion,
If they smoking so good now, how the must shine after a bit more of cure !
Awesome harvest, way to bring it home amigo, enjoy !!!
If they smoking so good now, how the must shine after a bit more of cure !
Awesome harvest, way to bring it home amigo, enjoy !!!
nice thread! wish I woulda caught it sooner.
how many acres is your property and what did it take to provide enough water?
did you end up using the full amount of ammendments? your plants seemed happy.
you got any of the testing done yet? curious about the numbers on those hazes.
great grow!
how many acres is your property and what did it take to provide enough water?
did you end up using the full amount of ammendments? your plants seemed happy.
you got any of the testing done yet? curious about the numbers on those hazes.
great grow!
MountZionCollec
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The property is 10 acres, however it's split in half with my home and farm being on the south facing 5 acres.
I had 9000 square feet in production and I used all the amendments I listed.
Water? Man it's so hard to say as I wasn't watering them on any time of schedule. Growing in the ground in ROWS really uses so much less water then growing in pots or what I "believe" it would take to grow in big mounds. The watering moves much more "wave" like then watering in pots. In pots 300 gallons or under its pretty easy to water, the problem is usually keeping them wet enough towards the end.
I also had mulch down and am at high altitude which changes a lot. Once it started getting into later August and September as the nights were consistently getting into the upper 40s I would come out in the morning and my soil would be drenched from water being pulled up from in the ground even if I didn't water that day or the day before sometimes and so I had to adjust my watering so I barely watered in the fall. The hoophouse was on a different schedule as well it needed even less water all year, maybe every 3 days in summer for 1 hour? For 1000 square feet in there I had 2 drip lines 50' each in 5 rows. So it dropped 500 gallons every hour?
My outdoor garden was around 1300 linear feet or somewhere close with two drip lines dripping 1 gallon an hour every. So I was probably watering about 1 gallon for every linear 1' per day beteeen June and mid August. Linear 1' for me is 3 square in production (not including walkways but actual canopy space). So 10 weeks at 70 days*1300 a day equals 91,000 gallons on 4000 square feet of canopy area. Then I was using about 800 gallons a day for the next 8 weeks then I stopped watering totaling about 40,000 gallons. That's 130,000 roughly on the 4000 square feet cultivation space, 8000 square feet permitted with walkways.
The hoophouse was 500 gallons every 3 days for 14 weeks, probably close to 20,000 gallons in the hoophouse?
Total about 150,000.
No tests this year lost too much product! With hoop collapse and crazy mid October storm plus too many god damn OGs and other experiments and too much unfilled space due to my late start! Not enough money for tests this year I will next year!
MountZionCollec
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The mixed hazes didn't end up being as interesting I was I hoping. Even the Thunks quality was muddied by the skunk.
Skunk #1 is like 95% myrcene and tiny amount of pinene so the skunk really muddies the effects of the haze in that mixed combo, I'm sure many of the others in that mixed cross also muddy the effects
I think the haze*skunk #1 and haze #5*(skunk*haze) would offer some nice phenos with all Sativa terpenes, but that was not the case on the mixed haze. A couple seem to have really small resin heads that won't yield much for any processing as well, though some of the phenos have large heads that yield well in resin.
I'm getting all that skunkman is releasing this year with chimera so we'll see if I can find some winners! One thing is certain, the mixed haze are 95% resistant to powdery Mildew, like seriously resistant not just mild or moderate. That is huge!! The issue with growing commercial long term is finding the phenos that hit on all marks, but most important it needs at minimum to not be susceptible to PM. Just observe what's happening in Oregon to know growers need to prepare for the mold and mildew tests! And they need to find a way to do it that doesn't include pesticides, in Oregon there rejecting some based on have too many ppm of organic pesticides as well.
The BC sweet Kush mother I kept for example isn't resistant, but isn't susceptible either, but it's covered in oil and resin so I'm going to give the clone a run next year to see how it does. It will get pm, but it will get is very slowly and just spots lightly on the Inside. Whereas a mental floss gets PM on the swiftness, it gets it fast and bad! Only issue with the mental floss is its chimeras most susceptible strain to PM.
thanks for the reply, I was curious about the water infrastructure, wells tanks and what does it take to water all of that.
how is it working vending to only one place? do they buy your trim and lower grade plants or are there processors in your area you can work with that buy up stuff and make oil or edibles?
it's really something how well that local soil worked out for you, very interesting thread as you are on the forefront of the new "legal".
how many plants total did you harvest in the end and how many seeds did you start?
what did you do in the end to comply with the 30' to 75' change? did it hurt the amount you wanted to grow?
how is it working vending to only one place? do they buy your trim and lower grade plants or are there processors in your area you can work with that buy up stuff and make oil or edibles?
it's really something how well that local soil worked out for you, very interesting thread as you are on the forefront of the new "legal".
how many plants total did you harvest in the end and how many seeds did you start?
what did you do in the end to comply with the 30' to 75' change? did it hurt the amount you wanted to grow?
MountZionCollec
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I water straight from my well out to the different areas. Depending on how many gallons an hour your well can supply will determine how many drip irrigation holes can be Open at once with this strategy. It takes lot of drip irrigation lines. I got the brown ones that are thicker by 2mm then the black. The tan are 17mm thick. Transfer the water in a 1" PVC pipe that serves a 1/2 tan line with no drip holes on it that carry the water to the drip lines. I just had to keep testing to see how much my well could move on my mountain, I had 7 watering sections with my 2 veggie watering sections included. Next year I'm putting my fruit trees, berries, and grapes where my veggies were.
I am no longer just going to one place I've been expanding out to other dispensaries as well, though at this time of the season many are stocked up. My plan this year is to take my best 1/4 to the bay and the other 3/4 to the dispensary I have been going too to help get the extra money I need to makeup for the losses this year. There are dispensaries that will buy ANYTHING for the right price. Sometimes you need to see 15 dispensaries and sometimes the right price isn't that high lol but it's business just as any other.
I am not sure yet what I will do with my trim and smalls. One idea is dry sifting it then rosin pressing and seperation out into prepackaged grams to dispensaries? I'm not sure what is acceptable at this point I may end up selling to a 3rd party processor to do the work somewhere else if it isn't acceptable to do at my location.
Man I was also extremely impressed by how well the soil worked out! Very little nutrient deficiencies! I really love Michael astera soilmineralsDOTCOM recommendations. Then I just added 2" of organic matter and a layer of gypsum. I tilled it about 30 times or something and that was after weeks and weeks of my assistant pick axing the whole area. My soil is FILLED with rocks, the previous owner called it "Rox a lot Ranch" or something it's filled. It's also old forest soil I have found multiple feet tall tree stumps carried entirely beneath the soil. There was a fire over this area about 10 years ago which bumped up the organic matter and pushed up the potassium really high.
I really don't remember now on numbers of plants I had. 250 or something? I had a ton of clones half of which were very disappointing on yield.
Next year I will be doing 400 plants. 200-250 from seed and 150-200 from mothers I found this year.
The 30' to 75' change really hurt me. I lost 1000 square feet of growing space. I also had to put 40% of my cannabis garden is my garden reserved for fruits and veggies. This area isn't as nice as my hillside in space or soil. Next year I'm putting 40 fruit trees, 50 berries, and 50 grapes into the area within 75' since now that we have an anti cannabis dominated board of supervisors there is 0% chance I'll be able to grow cannabis in that area within the next 5 years at the earliest.
thanks for the reply, I'm loving that the commercial is working on a small farm legally!
hope you keep us updated because this is really good info.
hope you keep us updated because this is really good info.
MountZionCollec
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