MotherLode Gardens 2016

[Shcrews]

while weedwacking the hillside , we found an iris blooming next to one of the 800gal pots. ive been at this spot for a few years and never seen one of these here

its crazy how much stuff is growing in/around/between the pots in the old garden. might as well be weedwacking a jungle

 

[Shcrews]

babies (round 2)

babies (round 2)

 

[maxmurder]

what rebel grown seeds you poppin?
i just started blueberry muffin and ogxchem with 100% germ.

 

[HillMizer]

Thank Shcrews.
I had to fight for my dog.
Took money for the greenhouse, goats etc.
It was dope. It had a big ass evaporative cooler, wood stove, internal dep system, cameras, motion sensors.

 

[plantingplants]

Shcrews, I got my soil test results for your coots fish mix I got and analysis from leadsled. I'm going to make a thread soon but if you're ordering soil soon I wanted to let you know what you may consider changing.

Iron is high, leadsled suggested that 1000# of rock dust may be to blame. Sulfur is high, gypsum may be the problem. Ca was a little under and he suggested 3000g of ag lime per yard but also said oyster shell can be slow to pop up on tests. K is high. I think that's the compost? Sodium is high... Maybe fish compost But he said you can leach Na and sulfur out by flushing. P is high But not too bad. Nitrate is high. Micros are low (boron is almost good).

I can give you more details if you'd like.

 

[milkyjoe]

For whatever it is worth I would never use gypsum in my original cootz amending. Anytime the basic soil mix has a pH below 6.5 (and guarantee it is below that or you would not need to add so much Ca) then do not use gypsum. All it does is provide a bunch of sulfate that is going to tie up some other cation and leach it out. Use CaCO3 (I use high calcium lime that is 40% Ca instead of oyster shell, 10-11 bucks for 50 lbs and you can get a finer grind), or CaSiO2

Other consultants say it differently. They often talk about not using gypsum until your base cation % of Ca is at or above 60%.

Sulfate is always gonna be temporary anyways. You have to use elemental sulfer to raise S for more than a minute.

 

[FoothillFarming]

Shcrews, I got my soil test results for your coots fish mix I got and analysis from leadsled. I'm going to make a thread soon but if you're ordering soil soon I wanted to let you know what you may consider changing.

Iron is high, leadsled suggested that 1000# of rock dust may be to blame. Sulfur is high, gypsum may be the problem. Ca was a little under and he suggested 3000g of ag lime per yard but also said oyster shell can be slow to pop up on tests. K is high. I think that's the compost? Sodium is high... Maybe fish compost But he said you can leach Na and sulfur out by flushing. P is high But not too bad. Nitrate is high. Micros are low (boron is almost good).

I can give you more details if you'd like.

Lead has been working with me for my soil as well. I am the one where the oyster shells are taking time to show up in my soil tests. Lead and I have designed a new soil from materials in my area, and it took a good month for the calcium to start showing up properly in my tests.

Screws, now that lead has the results from Grassvalley's soil mix, then I would take him up on making soil recommendations. Adjust your mix, make notes, and report back please, .

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

leadsled , has proven to be one top notch dude , selflessly helping many members . i hope karma is dumping fruits at his door .

good see you got back up going shrews . i,m sure being a little behind will be hardly noticed in the end result . any ancient replacements ? i am hoping the others pull through for you though .

 

[Shcrews]

what rebel grown seeds you poppin?
i just started blueberry muffin and ogxchem with 100% germ.

 

[Shcrews]

Shcrews, I got my soil test results for your coots fish mix I got and analysis from leadsled. I'm going to make a thread soon but if you're ordering soil soon I wanted to let you know what you may consider changing.

Iron is high, leadsled suggested that 1000# of rock dust may be to blame. Sulfur is high, gypsum may be the problem. Ca was a little under and he suggested 3000g of ag lime per yard but also said oyster shell can be slow to pop up on tests. K is high. I think that's the compost? Sodium is high... Maybe fish compost But he said you can leach Na and sulfur out by flushing. P is high But not too bad. Nitrate is high. Micros are low (boron is almost good).

I can give you more details if you'd like.

thanks a lot for the info, i would love more details. how are you going to amend that soil? i'm about ready to start mixing.

more soil getting delivered next week

leadsled , has proven to be one top notch dude , selflessly helping many members . i hope karma is dumping fruits at his door .

good see you got back up going shrews . i,m sure being a little behind will be hardly noticed in the end result . any ancient replacements ? i am hoping the others pull through for you though .

the ancients are actually looking a little better now

 

[plantingplants]

You just started seeds again? Won't they be too late to sex? I guess late is better than never just in case. Mine are still small so I'm anxious about how long it's going to take for them to sex. I wish the genetic tests weren't so expensive!

re: amendments, I'll give more details when I'm on my computer but I'm just going to irrigate the micros in and do foliar micro + ca sprays.

 

[oct]

If theres one thing I've learned over the years, by the time a 6 footer in a 15 gal smarties snap out of it and start growing, a smaller, younger plant will already be ahead of it. I see this topic brought up a lot. I see people make this mistake a lot.

I cut these clones on 4/15 and transplanted on 5/1. I'll probably plant these mid may with supplemental and the only pot they'd touch was a 1 gal air-pot before their final home. If I wait until june, they'll be potted up to a 2.4 gal air-pot mid may and thats it.

Save time, space and your back.

 

[plantingplants]

Yep I saved this quote from shcrews: "last year our highest yielding plant was 18" tall on june 1"

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

If theres one thing I've learned over the years, by the time a 6 footer in a 15 gal smarties snap out of it and start growing, a smaller, younger plant will already be ahead of it. I see this topic brought up a lot. I see people make this mistake a lot.

I cut these clones on 4/15 and transplanted on 5/1. I'll probably plant these mid may with supplemental and the only pot they'd touch was a 1 gal air-pot before their final home. If I wait until june, they'll be potted up to a 2.4 gal air-pot mid may and thats it.

Save time, space and your back.

i like this post ,

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

hay shrews , take it theres no silver lotus getting planted lol

hope all is going well , and more importantly seedlings recovering and new ones getting there feet in for you which ever way you have to go

 

[TheSilverMullet]

I take my main batch of cuttings for the greenhouse on 4/20.

I've always had better luck with plants that never get slowed down by being root bound, getting cold, etc. There's definitely something to be said for momentum.

Then again I don't have "unlimited" space per plant like someone growing fully outdoors. Otherwise I'd take cuts a little earlier.

Still, the largest pot I really want to go to before plugging them in is like a 5 or 7 gallon.

Schrews if you are still in need and feel like heading North...hit me up.

 

[milkyjoe]

This is a Jager clone today. About 5 inches tall or so.

They will be transplanted into 3.5 gallon air pots (oct convinced me) on Friday and if I planned it right, they will be full of roots and ready to transplant 6/1 into their final holes.

So count me in with the mid April to clone crowd. The are far healthier that way to me. And if you are lucky you can keep them stress free their entire life.

 

[TheSilverMullet]

That's a vibrant looking start, Milky.

Nice move on the air pots. I've been on that bandwagon for a good five years now. Clones go strait into a 2 gallon, then a 5 and then the ground. No root circling, no slowing down just watch them hit the ground running.

I also shoot for June 1 but anywhere in that first week is good.

 

[TheOutlawTree]

I guess ill find out the hard way this year for myself. I have a hard time believing that an 8ft plant, planted in early june, could be outgrown by a 3 footer planted in June, especially a cloned plant and not a seed start. I understand that a large indoor grown plant brought outside doesnt work, and i agree, but greenhouse grown for at least 1 month beforehand?

I'm not trying to stir the pot, I have nothing but a whole lot of respect for milky and all you other pro's. I guess there's just some thing's i've got to learn the hard way. Everything i know today about growing, was learned by making mistakes in the past and trying new stuff.

(for now) I feel like as long as you put the extra care in after transplanting, like being positively sure the old rootball is staying somewhat saturated for the first 7-10 days, as well as with nutrient drenches, there shouldnt be that much of a delay in growth?

As far as how the hell you transplant big 15-35g pots.... it can be done, its just a lot more work. Most of us are not farming more than 1 or 2 acres... I'm not seeing the big deal with it. I cant see transplanting giant starts / pots taking any more than a week. And that time includes making sure plants are all staked up with support and maybe even slightly tied up the whole way- the way a landscape tree gets transported so branches dont break.

If I was lower in elevation like 1200-1800ft i would be planting may 10th after these storms pass... but im just under 4,000 so waiting until early june is a must for me. Half of my cloned double dream's were just transplanted a week ago into 25's, and 35s. They are all pushing 6+ feet right now, so they should easily be 8+ ft in early june. They were all rooted / transplanted around march 6-7th indoors and brought to the heated GH april 10th Ish.

 

[cannascholar]

I would dep them if that's an option.

Schrews, have you considered giving the gh another go? Would help to kick those new starts into gear. An 8" max fan with thermostat at the top end for exhaust helps control temps. Personally I watch my gh on Iphone cam and call workers to adjust plastic as necessary.