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Mk III Terpenator
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Mk III looks serious mate
Looking forward to hearing how it runs for you
Hee, hee, hee, we will be finding out later yet today....................
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Strong Work as usual!!!
I love your solution to the over-sized tee problem on the main column/butane interface. While using the full sized Tri-Clamp Tee, with reducing female pipe thread tri-clamp adapters gets the job done; fabricating a proportionaly sized tee is a more elegant solution, in my opinion.
I love your solution to the over-sized tee problem on the main column/butane interface. While using the full sized Tri-Clamp Tee, with reducing female pipe thread tri-clamp adapters gets the job done; fabricating a proportionaly sized tee is a more elegant solution, in my opinion.
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The Mk III worked ran like a Formula I on the Appion twin, and actually beats the throughput of the Mk IA, albeit with more column changes in the middle.
Not counting the first cleaner load running leaf, I ran five column loads, of three different strains and material grades, and they weighed from 135 to 200 grams, all packed in the same 1.5 X 24" column.
The thing that is mind boggling after running the Mk IA, which will process about 470 grams per hour of prime bud, is that although the Mk III has a column capacity 33% less than Mkl IA, it processes it through the same number of cycles in 12 minutes. It therefore can run four cycles per hour, vis a vis the Mk IA's about 25 minutes per cycle, or two cycles per hour.
That is not counting the 5 minutes hard soak at the end of a series of runs of the same strain, which both the Mk IA and III add on to a series, but not to each cycle.
The Mk IA processes about 470 grams in two 235 gram cycles, in the same amount of time that the Mk III processes about 600 grams in 4 cycles.
The Mk III is actually so fast using the Appion, that the pressure gauge on the first reclaim cycle, looks like the minute hand on the clock as it falls.
The second flood and recover cycle is not quite so fast, as more butane made it through the second cycle, and the third is of course the long one, because it is evaporating butane out of the now open column as well.
As I don't have column heat on the Mk III test sled, the columns iced up on the last cycle, which was slooooow compared to the first two, so I will add column heat.
That was the only time available to stuff the next column, because the other cycles are happening too fast to not pay close attention.
Peak operating pressure in the Mk III ran about ten psi higher than the Mk IA, at 45/50 psi, compared to the Mk IA's 35/45 psi. All well within the component pressure ratings.
The only thing that didn't go very well, was my picture taking, with most of the equipment in mixed shadows under a tree, but got one that demonstrates the point. Alas no good oil shots, as the light wasn't suitable for in the pot and we washed it out with ethanol for winterizing.
I promise to do better with the pictures next time and will report the yields after winterization is complete.
The Mk III worked ran like a Formula I on the Appion twin, and actually beats the throughput of the Mk IA, albeit with more column changes in the middle.
Not counting the first cleaner load running leaf, I ran five column loads, of three different strains and material grades, and they weighed from 135 to 200 grams, all packed in the same 1.5 X 24" column.
The thing that is mind boggling after running the Mk IA, which will process about 470 grams per hour of prime bud, is that although the Mk III has a column capacity 33% less than Mkl IA, it processes it through the same number of cycles in 12 minutes. It therefore can run four cycles per hour, vis a vis the Mk IA's about 25 minutes per cycle, or two cycles per hour.
That is not counting the 5 minutes hard soak at the end of a series of runs of the same strain, which both the Mk IA and III add on to a series, but not to each cycle.
The Mk IA processes about 470 grams in two 235 gram cycles, in the same amount of time that the Mk III processes about 600 grams in 4 cycles.
The Mk III is actually so fast using the Appion, that the pressure gauge on the first reclaim cycle, looks like the minute hand on the clock as it falls.
The second flood and recover cycle is not quite so fast, as more butane made it through the second cycle, and the third is of course the long one, because it is evaporating butane out of the now open column as well.
As I don't have column heat on the Mk III test sled, the columns iced up on the last cycle, which was slooooow compared to the first two, so I will add column heat.
That was the only time available to stuff the next column, because the other cycles are happening too fast to not pay close attention.
Peak operating pressure in the Mk III ran about ten psi higher than the Mk IA, at 45/50 psi, compared to the Mk IA's 35/45 psi. All well within the component pressure ratings.
The only thing that didn't go very well, was my picture taking, with most of the equipment in mixed shadows under a tree, but got one that demonstrates the point. Alas no good oil shots, as the light wasn't suitable for in the pot and we washed it out with ethanol for winterizing.
I promise to do better with the pictures next time and will report the yields after winterization is complete.
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OH MY GOD, look at that beast you've created!
So i have like 6 inches to go, does my tube need to be shorter? This was the tube that came with the MKIIIA Kit from Specialized formulations. Also, is there anything special when attaching the compression fittings, just doesn't seem like they seal properly. Almost ready to run!!
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Found this, seems to be a great deal Liquid filled Compound Gauge -30 Hg to 60
Also when looking at filter driers for the appion g5 i noticed not many filters were specified for r600 refrigerant This one was but i didnt contact them to seem a price or anything. Just wondering if its needed or a plain filter, seems like they are all the same, would work just fine. Thanks!!
Also when looking at filter driers for the appion g5 i noticed not many filters were specified for r600 refrigerant This one was but i didnt contact them to seem a price or anything. Just wondering if its needed or a plain filter, seems like they are all the same, would work just fine. Thanks!!
It's a trick! You install the tube into the top fitting and tighten, before lifting the bottom end up into its fitting.
After tightening it, you pull up and out on the tubing to form it in a big smooth loop.
You can obviously also shorten it and use a tubing bender for tighter bends, but tight bends also add more resistance to flow.
6o psi is too close to the actual working pressure, so here is one that goes to 120 psi on the pressure side.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/YELLOW-JACKET-Item-3-18-In-Blue-Compound-2NXE2?Pid=search
We get filter driers at RSD adn use an Emerson Ek-032MF/PCN-0600-10.
OOOOHHHHH, ok that makes sense. I just didn't want to bend the tube too much and make a kink of something but it bends easier than i thought. Got it all together!! Thanks for the gauge recommendation, i was thinking 60 psi was to close but wasn't sure so i figured i'd ask. Also thanks for clearing up the filter thing, once i was looking at filters i saw they were for specific refrigerants and was worried i needed a r600 specific one.
The cost for the MKIIIA was about 1200 for just the unit, then depending on what you get for pumps and hoses could be from 600-1200 more. Making it 1800-2400 depending on condition of parts ie new or used. Much cheaper then other units out there, I talked to another guy and he wants 5k for his, and thats not including pumps and stuff.
The cost for the MKIIIA was about 1200 for just the unit, then depending on what you get for pumps and hoses could be from 600-1200 more. Making it 1800-2400 depending on condition of parts ie new or used. Much cheaper then other units out there, I talked to another guy and he wants 5k for his, and thats not including pumps and stuff.
About $700 with welding and machining labor. The pumps and other stuff costs another $1,200.
Thought i'd share a funny story. Just finished a run and was going to let it sit in a vacuum for a little bit. Normally at this point i remove my column and start to unpack it, this time i was busy and wanted to eat first. So i left it all closed up a went and ate, i came back and didn't even think about it, undid the tri-clamps for the top of the column... POP!! Lol 160 grams of weed then flew up into a cloud above my head and rained back down on me and the surrounding area. It was hilarious lol unfortunately i didn't get pics. So for future advice, when done running immediately remove your column do the remaining butane can vent off . I had done this every time so i didn't even think about it lol.
Now that i think about it, if i could find a bag that would hold up to that pressure i could do this everytime and have and easy tube clearing lol
Now that i think about it, if i could find a bag that would hold up to that pressure i could do this everytime and have and easy tube clearing lol
Hee, hee, hee, been there, done that twice and have seen it one other time. Both times someone came over while I was operating it and engaged me in conversation, so that while I was gabbing, the residual butane in the column warmed up and built pressure.
It does suggest that a blast of air from an air hose might do the same thing.
It does suggest that a blast of air from an air hose might do the same thing.
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mr.shiva
So close to having all the parts ordered, I'm down to the filter drier and the pressure gauge ... Do I need to buy another hose for the pressure gauge?
Yes, I use a hose for the gauge, so that it isn't around the hot water bath.
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mr.shiva
Edit --- figured it out
