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Michigan MMJ law safe!

Gooey

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The clubs will get better with competition just like the prices have...support local growers, as people are saying thats what the consumer has to be responsible for, they vote with their money...keep it in the state...anyone who thinks you have to have another job, get real, caregiving for sick people is a extremly tough job if people take it seriously...keep it green everyone, merry christmas
 

bobblehead

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^Dude knows WTF he's talkin' about. He's here, he's queer and he's in the clubs, lol. He's not queer though....he just gave me a beautiful Son. ;) Poopy knows the ins and outs of what's goin' on here in Michi....he's got a lot of hands on experience with the market right now. How he said it is, is how it is.....These club owners are just ex drug dealers and the bad clubs WILL be weeded out in the future. There are a couple good clubs in our area, but just a couple.

Miss B is right, PTB has it spot on... I don't charge club owners anything less than $300 a zip, and it's the best meds they've got. I charge my patients $250 a zip, after their free oz... The problem is that when they can get the cheaper buds, they won't buy mine. October and November they didn't buy not one zip from me. Fuck that shit...

Then they get this guy to run a clone room... omg... what a joke. He tells me he's going to cryogenically preserve as many strains as he can... This guy doesn't look like he graduated high school, and he's trying to tell me he's going to take tissue cultures and preserve them? what a joke... He's never set foot in a lab, he's hoarding strains in his basement, and telling lies...

The clubs are full of ex drug dealers. Treat them as such.
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
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haha. wonder if that dude is aware that 15-20 minutes of freezing temps damages the tissue of the cuts and makes them completely unviable. lol. cryogenically preserving clones...
 

grow nerd

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"Ex-drugdealers"? You won't sell your pot for less than 1000% net profit, but you can't stand to see others make less than 100% gross profit?

Hey bobblehead, where's my free oz??
 

bobblehead

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1000% profit? ha ha ha... you're trippin dog. Judging by your pics you know something about growing, so you know the costs involved. My time is valuable. I would sell to the clubs for less if they were reasonable, but the same price per a gram all the way up is wrong. That's why I call them ex-drug dealers. Just looking to make a profit.
The difference between me and them is compassion. I'm not going to pass off an inferior product on my patients. The clubs want the cheapest product, and they want to sell it for top dollar. I sell top notch buds (sour bubble, strawberry diesel, C99) to my patients for $9 a gram. The club charges $25 for purple wreck grown outdoors... So yes, they are drug dealers. I'm a caregiver.

Only patients get a free oz... you wanna fill out the paperwork? send me a PM. :)
 

Miss Blunted

Resident Bongtender
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You KNOW THIS Bobblead. I'd be your patient...if Poopy wasn't my caregiver, lol. Well said. I completely agree with you.
 

B.C.

Non Conformist
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you guys can all sit around and think that the top quality ganja just produces itself and we should all be happy to collect anything from it. but the truth is, it takes a lot of work to provide what you call "AAA", my group of growers just call it our normal weed.

I'm not gonna make less for my hard work, because some drug smugglers have overhead to pay, and more people with their hands in the cookie jar.

still you can tell who in this thread is really in the game and who isn't. i particularly love the out of state, non medical people trying to tell a different market what they should do with their crops.

Wow, you really have a fucked up outlook on things. Do you really think you and yer "group" are the only one with good genetics and can grow AAA bud? LOL! "My group jus call it normal weed" LOL!

Hard work?!?! LOL! I'll bet yuv never did a REAL days worth of hard work in yer FUCKIN life!!! I also get a real kick outta folks callin others that are doin the same damn thing, drug dealers and drug smugglers! That's rich! So what if you gotta piece of paper sayin yer legal. That doesn't make you any more morally correct than anyone else. That's jus the pot callin the kettle black. Yer jus pissy cause ya don't have the market monopolized anymore.

I think the whole fuckin "medical" thing is a bunch of bullshit and a front! It's just another way around the law. Go to the doc fera 100$ get yer lil paper an yer in. Real sick people couldn't even afford yer wholesale prices! The prices yuv quoted are right up there with blackmarket prices in non med states. So who the fuck are you really severing?!?!

I wasn't even gonna post in this thread untill I saw you baggin on another member. You got purdy shitty with him. Why, he's got the right to do what you do. You act like you own Michigan. I hate people that look down on others because they somehow think they're better. You seem ta be all about that. What comes around goes around... :ying:

I think I might move to Mich, I gotta lotta biker friends up there that can help me get started. Move over Rover, BC is commin over! LOL!

BC
 
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vonforne

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to B.C. again.

lol

great post B.C.

V
 

PoopyTeaBags

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The point of this thread and the three points that came after it have been long lost... theres deffinently a conseus on people in mi thats been doing this for a long time have alot of effort and time into shit... and then there are some new ones coming in and selling shit weed for the low making clubs not want to buy good meds...

There nothing or no where does anyone say the meds are just as good... on top of that we have a shit ton of cali import...driving prices down even more... which is where the smuggleing comes from i do believe... over all MOST club owners are going for strait profit and dont care about quality or just dont know....

These people are the majority atm... but when real business men with money get in the business these shops will not survive if they keep the status quo... there is nothing wrong with people wanting a fair price for there meds... the shop owners are the ones screwing the customers and the growers....


it is what it is but this stupid bickering by people that are not deep in the game or dont even live here is absolutely retarded... theres alot of people on these boards that have been here for a while and spread out all over michigan and its the same story everywhere... People are taking advantage of consumers stupidity itll end soon enough...
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
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what is it gonna take to get this thread closed down?

yes B.C., people importing 40 lbs of outdoor at a time from cali and moving it through clubs for $60-$70 an 8th straight up are smugglers and dealers. people growing herb legally in MI and moving it to clubs are called caregivers. big difference.

can a mod lock this motherfucker or what? it is useless. the same things are being rehashed over and over
 

B.C.

Non Conformist
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It's not just a Michigan thang....

It's not just a Michigan thang....

I got news fer you guys. The same shit is happening here too, and I don't even live in a med state! I know all about wanna-be newbies growing and selling shit bud. There's Cali od bud all over here too. Locked up, foul tasting, non burning SHIT! and guess what, it's driving the price down here as well. So I fully understand....

Yall should get together and start opening yer own clubs. Word of mouth would quicky spread and have you guys on top of the scene in no time. Quality and integrity speaks fer itself! Put the fucking ripoffs outta bidness!

Good luck to all of you! BC
 

Miss Blunted

Resident Bongtender
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^PTB wants to open a club, I don't....I like just being a grower. A humble farming family that makes a decent living is all I care about. But, to me....I do believe in MMJ and I want to see sick people get relief. Our patients are well taken care of....and it does touch my heart when I can get meds to a cancer patient who's dieing and can't eat. It makes me happy to serve a woman with severe stomach problems who's a great Mother and can be more involved with her children when she medicates. I love medical marijuana....unfortunately it's often abused by both patients, club owners and growers. Finding good, honest people is hard in general and even harder in this business. But, they do exist and I'm glad I get to work with great people and families.
 

grow nerd

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So, as previously mentioned, why is it not okay for shops to make 50-150% gross profit with larger capital and risk involved, but okay for you to make 1000%+ net profit with less capital involved and oftentimes overlapping budget (i.e., part of "home" is used as grow area, not a separate rented property) making it even larger?

I don't have any felonies so hope my question and concern counts.
 

Gooey

Member
Haha^...TMB is the one rehashing the same points....asking for it to be shut, your the only one saying the same shit....anyways B>C you are right on...these folks are just complaining about free market economics...people shop at walmart for a reason folks....shit is cheap...you think 9 a gram is a fair price for a patient? im sorry.. but that is a money maker right their...nothing wrong with that but cant bitch about people opening shops n making it themselves...shit open your own...plenty of room for a top notch club...bunch of wack shit out their, easy for a classy joint to take over....by the way every last one of you is conspiring to commit a felony...not sure we can get high n mighty on others...
 

bobblehead

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I have a question... Why am I growing dank when I could be growing rooms full of double purple doja and sell it for twice as much? Why do patients pay more for purple weed? lol
 

bobblehead

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So, as previously mentioned, why is it not okay for shops to make 50-150% gross profit with larger capital and risk involved, but okay for you to make 1000%+ net profit with less capital involved and oftentimes overlapping budget (i.e., part of "home" is used as grow area, not a separate rented property) making it even larger?

I don't have any felonies so hope my question and concern counts.

You're missing the point. They offer inferior goods at a higher price. They're not supporting local growers, they're supporting drug smugglers... Shall I go on?

They only buy my buds when they can't get cheap outdoor. If they were about spreading the medicine, they would buy everything I have to offer.

Say I dropped my price to $250 for the shops... $9 a gram. Now they flip it for a 150% profit? That's unethical, considering you're doing it on the grounds of spreading medicine. At least cut people a break on ounces! $450 an oz is ridic... Now they're making almost as much as me per oz net profit, and I'm the one incurring more expenses. Gross profit shrinks when I pay my electric, buy fertilizer, give away free meds... The shop is just a broker. Yeah, they have a brick and mortar store front, so what? Real estate is cheap now-a-days, and at $25 a gram, that shit should be paid off. Lawyer fees are probably the biggest expense, if they're trying to do things on the up n up... But a lot of them are just drug dealers from what I've seen.

I have a patient addicted to vicodin, b/c he has horrible pain... Cannabis makes it so he can take less. Should he have to pay $25 for every gram of medication he needs? Be real. And so what if you don't have a horrible illness and you just want to feel good. What's wrong with feeling good? Better to smoke a J then go drink yourself stupid and beat your dog or maybe even your wife... 10-15% gross profit is good for an average business. I'm educated, my time is of value... Growing isn't my only option. I deserve to be compensated for my time invested. How much time is the shop putting into my product? A 50-100% mark-up might be reasonable, but 150%? Big Pharma is just as guilty imo. They have many costs incurred, but what we charge for medication in the US is ridiculous.
 
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grow nerd

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So again, why is it okay for you to make way more than what you think they should make (150% too much, for example, for them)?

If it costs you, for example, $25 per ounce to grow, why is it okay for you to sell it for $250 (1000%) or more?

You're just the drug manufacturer that's mad at the drug smuggler and his "greener grass" business model/style.
 
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