MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[buzzy]

"Outdoor cannabis cultivators are adapting their cultivation and harvesting methods in order to maximize profits and reduce the risk of eradication. In 2006 law enforcement officials in several areas of the country, particularly California and Tennessee, reported that cultivators were changing their cultivation process from a single planting to two-crop plantings with shortened growing cycles. Cultivators achieve two growing cycles by planting specific cannabis strains that mature faster or by planting seedlings earlier in the spring. Cultivators in California, for example, are planting cannabis that buds earlier than most varieties and matures as early as June or July. Cannabis that is cultivated in the spring is harvested in early July, and the plot is replanted, allowing for an additional harvest in September or October. Additionally, law enforcement officials have reported that cultivators are harvesting as many plants as practical, including marginally mature plants, immediately prior to the height of eradication season or before eradication efforts move into the area, in order to avoid the risk of an entire crop seizure"

Ok, so who told em about AFs?! XD

Either that, or they don't know about photoperiods...

 

[LoneStarGrower]

Ok, so who told em about AFs?! XD

Either that, or they don't know about photoperiods...

well all they have to do is read their friendly neighborhood herb growing website...people are delusional if they think LEO aren't at least browsing canna sites to catch on to new "trends", growstyles ect.

by the way julian, thanks for makin this thread and sharing your knowledge with all of us, wish you a safe and succesful 2008 brother

 

[GroBoy2000]

Well, but you have to remind people that is a DoJ site, so....if their end not covered should note address and get in there through front another time.....But, yeah, lot of info ("perceptions"......always ....)

oops, also noted

 

[HOVAH]

Kentucy? what about Georgia. People dont believe it but, southern states have been growin herb and boiling moonshine for a long time ,hell my grandma & pa were moonshiners in the 20s with weeds plants hiding the steels, its like 3 swamps , 3spots with over 5 sqr. miles of woods and 5 lakes all within a walking distance from my house,and i live in a major city, ive been growin their for years... the sheriff dept. have always turnd an blind eye to weed and moonshine ,i know because i smoke with off duty cops every month. Its what our grandfathers did to survive, its GRANDFATHERED so to speak, and its been that way for atleast 80 years, dogfighting also...Weed was legal in Georgia until 1971, then it was outlawed...
1HOV

 

[Julian]

well all they have to do is read their friendly neighborhood herb growing website...people are delusional if they think LEO aren't at least browsing canna sites to catch on to new "trends", growstyles ect.

Always have been, always will be......goes right back to third parties....

If I was running an investigation?.....If I was in charge of a unit?.......Pfffffttttt....How else are you going to learn about the other side than to associate and learn from the other side...

Otherwise they wouldn't know shit....

That's why always have to be aware of that......lot of things I say might appear as details...(or are they? ....misdirection?....sometimes, maybe ........Details of op?...yeah, my last one and previous (but all different ....)

by the way julian, thanks for makin this thread and sharing your knowledge with all of us, wish you a safe and succesful 2008 brother

Very kind of you to say and likewise........not sure what it's going to be, or where it's going to go for me, but, I'm fuckin ready ...that's for sure.......

 

[Julian]

Kentucy? what about Georgia. People dont believe it but, southern states have been growin herb and boiling moonshine for a long time ,hell my grandma & pa were moonshiners in the 20s with weeds plants hiding the steels, its like 3 swamps , 3spots with over 5 sqr. miles of woods and 5 lakes all within a walking distance from my house,and i live in a major city, ive been growin their for years... the sheriff dept. have always turnd an blind eye to weed and moonshine ,i know because i smoke with off duty cops every month. Its what our grandfathers did to survive, its GRANDFATHERED so to speak, and its been that way for atleast 80 years, dogfighting also...Weed was legal in Georgia until 1971, then it was outlawed...
1HOV

Well, I just speak because experience and exposure there, but, know most of south the same........most of south the same, always has been, and, yeah, as earlier....well aware a lot of places things go back generations upon generations....Know the same in Tennessee,Georgia,Mississippi,Louisiana, Carolina's,even in SW and even west coast (Cali, Oregon,Washington...etc.....), but, south tends to be "way deeper".......due to nature in general (families, tighter...etc...ie: families, cousins...spanning cities counties, professions....cops, judges, city, county, state, etc...........)

I liked it down there....("free reign" thing.........always nice to do something feeling safer, etc.......)

 

[Julian]

"Outdoor cannabis cultivators are adapting their cultivation and harvesting methods in order to maximize profits and reduce the risk of eradication. In 2006 law enforcement officials in several areas of the country, particularly California and Tennessee, reported that cultivators were changing their cultivation process from a single planting to two-crop plantings with shortened growing cycles. Cultivators achieve two growing cycles by planting specific cannabis strains that mature faster or by planting seedlings earlier in the spring. Cultivators in California, for example, are planting cannabis that buds earlier than most varieties and matures as early as June or July. Cannabis that is cultivated in the spring is harvested in early July, and the plot is replanted, allowing for an additional harvest in September or October. Additionally, law enforcement officials have reported that cultivators are harvesting as many plants as practical, including marginally mature plants, immediately prior to the height of eradication season or before eradication efforts move into the area, in order to avoid the risk of an entire crop seizure"

Ok, so who told em about AFs?! XD

Either that, or they don't know about photoperiods...

And of course the other angle is.....they know everything?

Hmmm...........so maybe efforts will alter, double, increase?......

Maybe they will start to include areas closer in to cities?

Maybe they will extend activities year round?

Maybe they will double manpower?....

Maybe they will even double or triple aircraft?....

Oh....yeah..........they have a budget and can't .......



Happy huntin fellas......(maybe you guys can find a minute or two to go after the whitey, H and meth circulating by the hundreds of tons also .......fuckin scumbags .....Gotta try and get all those evil and violent growers with their evil devil weed and flowers.......)

 

[stream]

great thread.

how do you do your legal research to find cases that deal with things you are interested in? if you use a paid service, are you worried about the records that they have of your search patterns?

 

[HOVAH]

The Wire :Ive have 1&2 seasons, i think 2nd season theme song version was the best, the blues really sets the tone alot better. I wish Stinger Bell didnt die, he was ruthless but logical...Its not just a TV show, its pretty much a snapshot of how the laws of our land have transformed the drug game. The actors are REAL people that you can find:
on any Martin Luther King Blvd.,
in any City,
in the good ol' USA.
? How many bags of water cystals do i need for 200 plants?
How far should i spread them out 20ft, 30 ft, 50ft.? TY 1HOV

 

[Julian]

The Wire :Ive have 1&2 seasons, i think 2nd season theme song version was the best, the blues really sets the tone alot better. I wish Stinger Bell didnt die, he was ruthless but logical..

Have you seen all 4 and now 5?...all come together......very cool, and, of course, all build (every episode and season better than the last....5 going to be best no doubt...lot of people not sure what to make about newspaper angle, but, I think many are really going to like where it goes..(funny also

See, I thought S4 intro (music) was best, and, changed the tone......put a little more edge into it I thought........glad Steve Earle got S5's into.....(Intro to this season is Steve Earle, bubs sponsor, real life recovering addict, etc....)

.Its not just a TV show, its pretty much a snapshot of how the laws of our land have transformed the drug game. The actors are REAL people that you can find:
on any Martin Luther King Blvd.,
in any City,
in the good ol' USA.

Well, it is real....almost like a biography......(based on writers real professional lives and experiences.....deacon in S4 was real life avon that writer (Burns) took down and his crew.......Lot of real life actors..(Ex Mayor ws on Carcetti's staff on show.......real governor was in last season as Clay Davis's front desk...Steve Earle real life recovering addict......Norris is the real ex commissioner who did time for corruption....etc....storylines are essentially real....Bunk was real person..Landsman real person..Omar based on real person...etc, etc.....Colvin's legalization a real event....etc.....essentially a biography of the city for the most part....

Anyway ..gets me goin.....

? How many bags of water cystals do i need for 200 plants?

Depends on your hole and your rainfall and your soil......1/2 cup.....1/4 cup maybe.......I always get quite a bit extra of everything.....if some left over...will be used anyway "plants" a wide statement.......hole, size, soil, rainfall, etc, all determines....1/4 a lot more than it sounds......have to see how they work first hand....see, feel, touch, etc....

Don't forget to experiment when you get them (gallon of water, throw in tablespoon and see how it works...give it about 30 minutes more or less.....will give you a good idea exactly how it looks.....I have a picture somewhere in thread and gallery (dry crystal/expended crystal) for example....

Depending on the above....little more not a problem (LOT more can be a problem, but, not one I have experienced so far and I am pretty generous sometimes with my mies ......) Have heard too much can push your plants right up/.out of the hole ...I never had that problem...(probably never used that much.....)

(Don't forget to go with organic ones as mentioned..............)

How far should i spread them out 20ft, 30 ft, 50ft.? TY 1HOV

You lost me....plant spacing?......ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.....spot dictates the method and approach......

Space as spots/methods/strains call for ......early planted though you want to give them about an 8 x 8 footprint.......more or less (I do.....)....meaning 16 ft apart.....could go closer.....could go farther but, again, issue is location/site....what can it handle....what is it best suited for...(site/stealth may call for 50 ft apart...etc.........all depends what your doing...remember......your dictating the method to the site....

Site dictates the method.....site determines best approach..(early, late, larger, smaller, etc.....)

 

[HOVAH]

say i have 200 going out, do u space all 200 plants 16ft apart, or do you put 20 in one spot, then the next patch would be say 50 ft away from the first.....and so on, this is were im confused,?
50plants------50ft------30plants--------60ft------60plants-------50ft-----40plants??


The Wire: Ive seen all episodes season 1 thur present, i own seasons 1and 2, my friend have lost some of the disk in the set and im gonna have to buy them again .. but its worth it..you cant hold someone accountable with ur stuff when everyday theyre high as shit!

 

[Julian]

say i have 200 going out, do u space all 200 plants 16ft apart, or do you put 20 in one spot, then the next patch would be say 50 ft away from the first.....and so on, this is were im confused,?
50plants------50ft------30plants--------60ft------60plants-------50ft-----40plants??

C'monnnnnnnnnn man......

What's your spot?........What's the layout?....What's the best approach?.....I don't know your spot....don't know what it offers and don't know what it can take and far far you can push it.....

But......

I don't need to know your spot to say that 50ft between spots is a bad idea.......goal is to always have them far enough from each other that they won't be in danger should something happen....(ie: one plot gets grabbed by thieves, popo, etc.........50feet away is probably not going to escape untouched smoke: (I thought you were talking plant spacing.......)

You do what you can and what the spot will allow, and, again, depends on area.......I don't favor dense plantings unless mini's.....I try to spread them out as much as possible.....as much space between plots as possible (I keep all mine as far apart as possible.....no safety in having 10 plots in a square block of land......something happens...they're getting them all....so....

All depends on your space, and, I do realize all don't have unlimited land , so...you do what you can, where you can, etc.......If I had a limited amount of land....I'd probably skip the early plantings, or do a couple here and there but concentrate more on mid and late plantings......(that's me...all have different desires and needs.....but, my only desire i to "bring em home".......and, you do what you have to do to try to ensure that.....)

Location dictates the method....not the other way around..(lot earlier in thread on this topic.....)

Early ones can really get out of hand sometimes (this season I had a lot get wayyy out of hand.........far too many 12-16 footers........was not good.......)

Can't tell ya man....you have to take a look and decide what is best for the spot......what approach is best....what would suit your spots the best, and be the safest for those spots.....(remember....don't get wrapped up in preconceived notions........you may want to do larger, early trees, and, spot may not support it..........You do what the spot lends itself best to......)

The Wire: Ive seen all episodes season 1 thur present, i own seasons 1and 2, my friend have lost some of the disk in the set and im gonna have to buy them again .. but its worth it..you cant hold someone accountable with ur stuff when everyday theyre high as shit!

I do... (hold accountable....)....(I lend out a lot of books and stuff and get really pissed off when they don't come back, or, come back fucked up, etc, etc......(because a lot of things get passed around, and, fucking it up is screwing other people who were interested, etc....)

So your on it...(S1-S5......) Yeah...this season looking like going to end up the best one yet......tonights (E4/#54......late night ondemand) going to have a lot of stuff which will surprise a lot of people

 

[buzzy]

Hope your dolla is ok with all the crazy shit happening to your economy across the pond...

Actually is it good thing for traders?

 

[Julian]

Hope your dolla is ok with all the crazy shit happening to your economy across the pond...

Actually is it good thing for traders?

Complex subject...........today was actually not a bad day overall...great for some, bad for others,nothing for some....

Lot of things opened up low, but, almost made their way back up to close of Friday.........shorts covered.......people went in short term for day gain from open to close.......some people added to positions already low......

I didn't have a bad day...made a little money (added to a position or two......)....today not as important as tomorrow and rest of week (I might get rid of things if weakness tomorrow...we will see...Lot of things already quite low, and, see.....lot of things, sure, thy opened lower but last week a great week, so ..

Can never believe "market" news......always something behind it, always manipulation....I don't really even real market news anymore...I skim for idea, but, I ignore specifics..(If one looks for recap they will see 10 explanations for same event ...it's funny........)

Of course, people forget also that just as easy and possible to make money in market headed down...(shorting)....I really haven't been shorting too much now because don't want to be caught in a squeeze because probably coming close to reaching a bottom......Seasonal patterns also we're kind of where we should be on a lot of things with turnaround shortly, etc,. so.....

Market just a bunch of little screaming irrational girls :bighlaugh: Subprime issues completely overblown and irrational......in some cases maybe better because things might have been overvalued to start with and correction only fitting, etc..,....

I made a little today ...not s much as I could have, but, wanted to see where day went..(If I would have gone heavy at open, would have made a lot today, but, wanted to hold back to see what tomorrow and rest of week hold before committing too much.......I eased up a little end/beginning of year anyway, so.......just waiting, and watching, exercising some patience..(and, might be taking a trip/vacation shortly, so.........do what I can, hop out, hope it stays where it is or gets worse...by the time I get back should be back to normal and a lot of things on their way up....

See ....."market" not really an appropriate term..........10,000+ stocks...all in different positions...situations.........some things go up, some not, done sideways.........some of my best days, have been gloom and doom news days...all depends what your playing ....Today not a bad day though overall and from what I saw from what I play......was a buying day ......(hopefully a lot of shorts covered their positions......)

It's all manipulation man.....all manipulation......

I have seen 40MM share days whose directions were completely altered by 300,000 well placed shares..........(which illustrates a lot.........300k shares sold can completely void 25MM bought...it's interesting and funny the same time ........

Nah..I had an okay day..hopefully another 1 or more this week..pack it up....go on my way and relax a little ......(I can never make enough money.....I have bills coming in that would make the average person gargle Draino ...and just increasing by the day...had some family issues last couple months that require enormous amounts of cash......so.....whatever...I just want to be able to get outta here for a while, take a break....see some nice scenery..breathe some clean air.........sit back, relax.....wake up every day with 3-4 astounding women .....

And maybe have a drink or two ....

We'll see..could be setting up for a HUGE year.........(in general, everyone, market, etc....) we will see.......Nothing is ever as bad as news/media makes it to be .......(People ignore billions are made in "crashes"......billions.........In almost every major market event, if people would have added or held their positions they would have been back to where they were shortly........eh.....depends always though.........)

 

[buzzy]

I just want to be able to get outta here for a while, take a break....see some nice scenery..breathe some clean air.........sit back, relax.....wake up every day with 3-4 astounding women .....

And maybe have a drink or two ....

come over to the UK, we'd love to have you


dunno about the women, but we have clean air and lots of drink

good to hear it's not as bad as they make out... hell, it never is...

 

[Julian]

come over to the UK, we'd love to have you

dunno about the women, but we have clean air and lots of drink

good to hear it's not as bad as they make out... hell, it never is...

Thanks......C'monnnnn, you've got loads of hotties..(and those accents make me nuts ...).....although winter in UK isn't the place for sunshine..is it? ...

Nah....yesterday a good day, today not bad (bad for some things, good for others......) I don't mind when a lot of things plummet......better to get it all out of the way ...lot of things headed down...lot headed up.....all depends.....

 

[Julian]

Security and Legal topics lately, so.....I have to say.....I love Barry Cooper ....

(I know, I know...lot of people have a lot to say, but, I've said it before and I'll say it again: He never wanted to be a cop....he just wanted to be rich

....(read his bio...one will understand .....)

Anyway, so, someone was telling me today now he's got another (or more than one?) DVD out, and,this one deals with growing, stealth growing, etc....Clip that they sent me that's up....

Haven't seen DVD, but, starting to think maybe not a bad way to spend $20 bucks.... (I'm of that mindset........if I spend any amount and learn something, was worth it......)

(Note: I don't know him, never met him,in no way affiliated....just love the guy ........(Think he could use some PR advice though on many levels....coaching, etc.....would do him some good from some of interviews I have seen......)

Anyway...was talking about that and saw clip and wondering what else it holds and how many he's doing/releasing/released...

I like the guy ....Thought worth mentioning....

 

[vod]

He definitely found a good way to get rich and famous

 

[Julian]

And it is a "good" way......not only some longevity to it....not only something "good", but, also, he has an interest in legalization/decriminalization, media coverage, etc, so......(fuckin scary to see some of those interviews..........)

Personally?...I think he got into it in the first place to jack loads TO HAVE MONEY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE......(but, what do I know .....)

I like the guy....happy for em, and, hopes he keeps it up (sure he will because making money ....)

(Again...don't know em....if I did would be different videos with different content and longer .....)

I have a little "rule of thumb" in life about cops.........

Anyone who quits?........is a good person ...(lot of people not cut out for it....a lot don't make it........I know a couple "ex" cops.....and, they're pretty good guys and wanted no part of the bullshit.....on many levels......it's a hard job and take a lot out of you (mind, heart, soul....)...drugs aside.....forget drugs.......a very hard job.....requires a certain type of person......(and not someone whose "a nice guy".........)....

 

[HOVAH]

I agree their accents (UK women) drive me crazy too, I spent 2 months in London back in 95, and they LOVE American Men.
But the best place in EU. is Spain hands down, plus the women soo horney, they just love f*ckin all the time and they are gorgious.

COPS, shit i know some cops who give us information on the department, not sayin what type of Info, but its pretty valuable, and they are comp. nicely.