MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[NPK]

Hey man, I didn't take any nutrition classes myself because I'm pretty knowledgable about that stuff already, but a class at a community college would be a great, inexpensive way to get a better grounding on the subject. My focus was pretty much exclusively on teaching people the basic muscle-builders. I had my clients do full-body workouts: one or two basic exercises per muscle group, for a total of maybe six or seven exercises and maybe fifteen sets. May not sound like much, but it's really very effective, especially if you cycle your workload and repetition scheme over a period of a couple of months.

One thing that really amazed me was that not a single person asked me about my credentials. Mind you, you don't have to have any kind of certification (although I imagine that most commercial gyms would require that of any trainers using their facilities). Starting that gig was seriously as easy as hanging out a shingle and printing up some business cards. My most important credential was that I looked fit.

As for free trackers, here are some links I googled:

http://www.activemeter.com/
http://www.ritecounter.com/
http://hitslog.com/

I use a tracker when I run craigslist ads. Can't overstate the importance/usefulness of knowing who is looking at you. Granted, it's not so specific that you get the viewer's full name, but very often you'll see the organization the person is with. It might be a university, the viewer's employer, or who knows? In the odd case, it might even be a city's police department.

 

[Guest]

Hey, thanks a lot for that information pal. I dont really think I'd need a class, maybe just a nutrition book more than anything. Personally have done many different types of work outs for a long time, ready on subject, bulk muscle vs trim muscle. My own personal favorite workout is boxing or tennis. Prefer to be in-shape as opposed to just big and can barely scratch my left shoulder with right hand, lol.

And I also googled web trackers, doesnt seem to be big differences in them, but I will SURELY start using them. Thanks for heads up.

 

[Guest]

Haha! Had to come back and share this

Speaking of self employment, own business....just read a Yahoo news piece, Top 5 Be Your Own Boss Jobs

#1??? Home Health Aid...(same thing basically...yeah?)
and then
#5...graphic designer...been seeing a lot of jobs ads for this (so not self employed, of what i saw, but work from home, mostly done your way)...

slowly working on portfolio...I could really benefit from classes though, would give me a 'project' or challenge, and new tools too. From t-shirt designers to graphic designers...marketing agencies...games, movies, posters, and on and on...more my speciality, not 100k+ a year business...but...for side work...knowledge and published talent...one can always fall back into these

having a bitch of a wife, thats for life

 

[pakalolo420]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Julian again.

 

[Julian]

Looks like you guys have been busy .......

Still, I'm not sorry I did it. I learned some really important shit about myself (and built a sweet home gym, to boot). Hell, I've also had a side business cleaning houses. All to the good, man. Very interesting shit, really. Fascinating to know what you'll do, for how much, and for whom. Those gigs gave me an appreciation for the better, more lucrative possibilities out there and certainly acted as stepping stones toward the improved position I'm in today.

I like this/the above........volumes upon volumes for people to gain from......

Know yourself....understand yourself.....learn new things about yourself (always priceless.....)

Any one of the above possible to become something extremely large (changeover is other people performing tasks and you setting it up to run in your absence.......I always liked the cleaning one myself.....had a buddy start one and work up to like 200 people and office building accounts.......fairly well off guy (dare I say wealthy?....or close to....got him a 2MM house and a couple Benz's within 10 yrs........) I wanted to set up my first wife in a similar op....give her something to do besides tanning and her nails

(Again.....people overlook such things........ie: anything can take you anywhere if pursued and worked long enough, the right way.....everyone wants something that will shoot them to the top overnight......but, a lot of money to go around in a lot of things.......)

Was talking to someone about something similar yesterday..........ie: Say you have a smaller, okay business...let's say it makes you 2k a month...hardly enough for most to live well, but......but...........you take a closer look and find the guy owns 10 of them ......(I think we were talking about a guy and pizza places.....small, cheap, low profit business...but,m it works for him.......he does it and knows it well....can get them for cheap......(most of the time like 50k per business more or less).........you keep going, etc...(I'm a fan of multiple income streams......bad month...year in one?...several others to cover you.....I know another guy who owns a bunch of different stuff also.........bar or two...couple laundomats....some rentals...couple buildings...etc....slow and steady guy accumulated......very comfortable right now...did it all with minimum outlay..........

It's a long trip sometimes.....is what it is..........wost thing people can do is assume they accomplish one thing and that's all there is.....lifelong journey...and, you never let up........

Haha! Had to come back and share this

Speaking of self employment, own business....just read a Yahoo news piece, Top 5 Be Your Own Boss Jobs

#1??? Home Health Aid...(same thing basically...yeah?)
and then
#5...graphic designer...been seeing a lot of jobs ads for this (so not self employed, of what i saw, but work from home, mostly done your way)...

slowly working on portfolio...I could really benefit from classes though, would give me a 'project' or challenge, and new tools too. From t-shirt designers to graphic designers...marketing agencies...games, movies, posters, and on and on...more my speciality, not 100k+ a year business...but...for side work...knowledge and published talent...one can always fall back into these

You forgot a "writer"......writing about things such as top 5 be your own boss topics and such ........

(I had to add that.....writers make me crazy.......one specific is articles on real estate and financing and such.......which are always done by a "writer"....whose job it is to "write"....."create a story".......most of the time no real world experience, etc, but, they still get a check for it... (and **** up a lot of people in the process reading what they wrote.....)

As above....anything can become a 6 figure business...(thinking.............) ****, even hot dog carts...(if you own 30 ........)

That actually wasn't always a simple to me as it appears on surface and took me a while to absorb that (key word...absorb..........) Good busi8ness?...couple k?....**** it......open another, and another, and another.......and, in the process, depending on what it is...contributes to earlier topics along the lines of in the end you might be able to sell them off..(exit strategy....) Had a friend who did that with several mid sized business's....cashed out for almost 3MM..........retired before 30 essentially......angles and possibilities are truly endless....truly.......

(And, almost everything can work in some "extra money" .....to some degree.......at some point...to further your interests.....)

All depends how hard you want to pursue things....whichever direction one takes ....I could list examples all day long I have seen firsthand.......literally.....

C'monnn man You know...your quite the "engineer" yourself .....Only difference between us is I have a numbers/overkill problem Little more obsessive.......

This season will not end soon enough for me....I am almost wiped out for the year....(tired...) Still want to try and get some pre/post hang shots...not my priority though...right now...just trying to live day to day and fighting the "back up" that is starting to occur....(shaking head) Starting about next week....hellish amount of work coming till end of Oct......Looks like this is last "light" week.....hit a little heavier with some mold than I would like currently..but, lucky overall I think in the whole scheme of things..(been cutting for 8 weeks now....only loss last week, probably about 10-20%.....which is a little heavier than I like (20%...)......hate to toss nice things...but, flip side is should be an extremely heavy year for bubble .......already building up a nice stash of hefties .....worried about this week/next week....and, then go from there, take it step by step.......Training a new guy on trimming..(old friend needs a little help...figured $200 a day is good..)....seems he has a problem spotting and cutting out mold ..New people....please watch it...and, just get rid of it......little bit?..kept around?...in larger packages?....can **** up an entire larger batch.......ie: take 100 1z colas........each with 1/4 gram mold.....throw them in bag and see what happens to entire batch...

Getting rid of it doesn't seem so bad anymore, does it? ....

Hope season is treating all well......

Had a lot of commentary on a bunch of stuff, but, haven't had a minute to relax and kick it out....(Actually shouldn't be here now....10 places to be, but, late start for me today.... which is ****ed up because I already blew my entire schedule today ...........)

 

[Guest]

It's a long trip sometimes.....is what it is..........wost thing people can do is assume they accomplish one thing and that's all there is.....lifelong journey...and, you never let up........

So true man...everyone who wants to go far should realize this, you cant let off the gas, lol, cant stop walking the up the hills

thanks for adding 2 cents about writers. I have a handful of work done, unpublished, always watch writing gigs too, well, more since last contract ended.

With the net so big these days a lot of web writers especially are starting off for very low wages. I think I'm about to join that crowd Seen to many missed opportunities to establish published work, because of low pay. Problem is, when next place, or place paying more asks for clips, need to have volume of work already accepted and published.

Anyway, saw one (writing gig) last night, kinda thought about it, very low pay, but you come in and say 'writers', I read with email, starting day, lol. Especially with additional comments about multiple income streams...then I'm like, ok, I dont need to write 8 new articles a week, just 2 a week for 3 or so months, more maybe, small money, but builds credit, and extra volume of work on hand, and 2 small articles can be done and edited in less than an hour each, so still comes out to $25+ an hour.

Now I'm also thinking of other small income streams...

Making breakfast tacos at home, and putting into styofoam boxes to take to various business, mostly 'shop' type places, again, not a lot of money by any means expected, but first half of day done at home, next driving around in your car, done by 11.

Actually, mah woman mentions idea of culinary classes, owning bakery, sandwich shop, food, its like a drug for some of us right, lol. So I tell her, why not do this, part time, work out of home, small scale, see how you like cooking a lot, then selling it to people, see if it makes you feel good enough to dedicate 40-50 hours to, later, more money, if you still enjoy, or want to do, cool

Not more money than at local jobs, but part time hours, build your own contacts/clients, not work for a company to build their contacts, basically you control the chessboard, not pawn of someone elses...

And also still considering ways to market and get the word out best for poop-scoop service. Looked around, someone else does this locally, but from talking, most people havent heard of it...would really like to get my bro involved, just getting out of jail, has no money, and I really none to give him. ..I'm feeling slightly ambitious and in need of more creative control/independence

Hey Julian, good luck with your cuts, I love to imagine dropping all those small side buds, anything the size of thumb or smaller ALL to hash?

But c'mon man, how do you do it? How do you make MASS hash? For that matter how do you keep the trim/popcorns to use for hash later? Just bag em dry in a big trash bag type deal? Im really interested in the left overs. As a self defieid rearranger of the senses through all ways(read intoxications) available, I look foward to a stash of potent hash. Only had VERY small amounts before, scissor hash size. Love the devastating and deep high.

All depends how hard you want to pursue things....whichever direction one takes ....I could list examples all day long I have seen firsthand.......literally.....

Please, feel free to 'litter' these all along our journey, expands the mind...truly

Cheers! Happy harvest to all! The last spot I had near the trains has been mowed! The surroudning veg was from 4 foot to over me when I planted. Bastards, found out they hadnt been tending it because 'rains' had been too heavy....all summer??? More planning to next, lots of fishing to be done in this weather

 

[Julian]

thanks for adding 2 cents about writers. I have a handful of work done, unpublished, always watch writing gigs too, well, more since last contract ended.

I have sooo much stuff along those lines........(things started....)...might do over when I get a chance, etc, from scratch....real estate, trading....grow related , even have sort of a biography deal that moves along every now and them .....another option that people don't understand, and, frankly, I tell people all the time.....almost anyone has knowledge which they could write about (****....been in the can?...write a book about being in the joint...ya know?......seriously.......anything and everything...there's 100 books about it ....and, I guess depending on what one has to say, and, how they say it, depends where you fall in those 100 ....

With the net so big these days a lot of web writers especially are starting off for very low wages. I think I'm about to join that crowd Seen to many missed opportunities to establish published work, because of low pay. Problem is, when next place, or place paying more asks for clips, need to have volume of work already accepted and published.

I never really thought about it as a profession, but know one or two people who answer my questions now and then, etc...

Anyway, saw one (writing gig) last night, kinda thought about it, very low pay, but you come in and say 'writers', I read with email, starting day, lol. Especially with additional comments about multiple income streams...then I'm like, ok, I dont need to write 8 new articles a week, just 2 a week for 3 or so months, more maybe, small money, but builds credit, and extra volume of work on hand, and 2 small articles can be done and edited in less than an hour each, so still comes out to $25+ an hour.

Well, I would assume also comes into play, you do what you know......you do what you like, etc, and, eventually, it sorts itself out (which you excel at, do well financially, etc).....momentum of it's own I suppose.....kind of how my life goes........."shifts" towards one thing or another at will.......I just go with the flow to a degree on a lot of things..ya know? ...same with green ....seems to "work"...I do it well...rewards appropriate, so........another example....

Now I'm also thinking of other small income streams...

always......

Making breakfast tacos at home, and putting into styofoam boxes to take to various business, mostly 'shop' type places, again, not a lot of money by any means expected, but first half of day done at home, next driving around in your car, done by 11.

I actually knew someone whose wife was doing that with...I think it was like...cookies.....would do batches, run them out to stores, etc, etc.....wasn't that bad I think.......($$wise)...at least for her I guess....

Actually, mah woman mentions idea of culinary classes, owning bakery, sandwich shop, food, its like a drug for some of us right, lol. So I tell her, why not do this, part time, work out of home, small scale, see how you like cooking a lot, then selling it to people, see if it makes you feel good enough to dedicate 40-50 hours to, later, more money, if you still enjoy, or want to do, cool

I'm a "chef" myself of sorts...always though about restaurants, etc, but, very hard work, long days, and, of course, your dealing with perishables....which always makes me nervous, but, actually, spans much wider.....You said above....could do personal chef....could do catering.....which can be taken to any level......lot of angles one can take with food I suppose....As far as school and actually knowledge and experience to a greater degree, I mean, from what I hear and have seen, not bad at all as far as a "career"....right place, right position......not bad money (talking 60k-100k+) Local, hotel,cruise ships, etc, etc...I mean, 1,000 angles to food......could even break that down into categories...(I have a caterer buddy...he subs out all his desserts and such to some serious pros....so...and, again, that's all they do......)Weddings?.....lot of angles I would think to it.....

I'd probably be a hell of a lot happier doing that..less money, but, happier.....

Not more money than at local jobs, but part time hours, build your own contacts/clients, not work for a company to build their contacts, basically you control the chessboard, not pawn of someone elses...

That just made me remember someone I "knew" (not close) who was doing corporate catering.....was good...good money, etc......ie: They would be on the speed dial of say...let's say......Bank of America exec offices...etc....(picked out of air for example...don't remember who they were doing but, was financial corporate...)

Of course then one would ask how do they get the accounts, andI think I heard something once to the effect of they offered to do the first one (smaller) for free for a "sample"...and, from then on....well, went well.....

And also still considering ways to market and get the word out best for poop-scoop service. Looked around, someone else does this locally, but from talking, most people havent heard of it...would really like to get my bro involved, just getting out of jail, has no money, and I really none to give him. ..I'm feeling slightly ambitious and in need of more creative control/independence

I think they have a national chain .....I think.....I know a larger place...read about it somewhere........they also have corporate accounts you can do also......****,l they might even sell franchises now

Hey Julian, good luck with your cuts, I love to imagine dropping all those small side buds, anything the size of thumb or smaller ALL to hash?

A thumb?....nah...more like.....m,......say like a quarter or something.......you know, I mean, has to dry into something useful/useable...(ie: as compared to trimming time, effort, etc).....ie: "worth the time".....

Mind you.....it's also sort of a "bonus".......ie: anyone going through bags can pick out what they want before running it, and keep it, etc, so.....you know..usually like a q'per or half comes out of them before they are run....so......Plus, also......hard to explain to average person but easy to explain to grower ...you know......****, sometimes whole pants go into bubble pile...(might be nice, might be spectacular, but....might be loose due to spot, strain, sun, etc..(threw 2 nice ones in bubble piles a week or two ago....looked ****in awesome, but, so loose....what am I going to do with that?......efficiency...ie: In the time it would take to trim that thing down into something nice in a bag...could go through 10+?- other plants, ya know?...so...not always size.....sometimes density...sometimes quality...etc......Personally?...all your getting from me is hardcore...perfect......anything else...I mean, really,.....I have no where to place it....so...sometimes bubble bags, sometimes swap with partners, etc.......I really have nothing to do with anything not really nice...so.....you know...couple factorsd...between size, density,. rewards , etc....all depends

But c'mon man, how do you do it? How do you make MASS hash?

Much easier than it sounds/looks .....I've had my maker (guy who showed talent, picked it right up ) shopping the portable washing machines lately (actually told him last year, but, last year I basically taught the guy on the runs, so, now, this year, he knows how, understands, etc, so, then I introduced washing machine concept through the bags, so...before, was just running large batches in the larger garbage cans with paint mixers, etc.....run em in winter so, lot of ice, snow, etc.....and, run multiple batches straight...(might go 24hrs straight and wipe everything out, because last thing you want is ______lbs of bud, trim laying around if something should happen, so....I'm sure some would offer commentary about running multiples at same time through same batch/water, but, that's how I do it, and, I find most efficient....ie:....first batch....mix...strain.....2nd...mix, strain....3rd, 4th, etc, etc...then, when I see they are basically too ful we empty and start over again (ie: so much that they won't drain anymore......have to clean em, etc.....and, that way..pulling out bigger loads.....baseball size, softball size, etc, etc....it's what works for me......will probably change iut up again when I grab washing machines, so.....also got some screens, but, problem is, I usually toss the mold in there also, which of course has to be processed a different way (have to strain /ladle off top before pulling......)

For that matter how do you keep the trim/popcorns to use for hash later? Just bag em dry in a big trash bag type deal? Im really interested in the left overs. As a personal defieid rearranger of the senses through all ways(read intoxications) available, I look foward to a stash of potent hash.

Yeah...just hefties, but, kind of same care as for regular......keep em open, aired, dry, close, etc, etc...don't want it to mold if there is none, and, if mold in there, don't want it to get worse....when things are easier and lighter, you can keep moldy stuff in separate bags...when heavier work.....shit all gets mixed......actually...quality of bud people pull out of those trim bags months later is spectacular.... I'm always surprised actually Doesn't get treated very well.....turns out really nice........(hence the reward aspect ........sometimes takes the guy(s)_ weeks to go through them before being ready for the bubble runs .......(which I'm not supposed to know ...but, I know their just buying time to go through them, and, I put shit in there on purpose for em ......guy(s) might sometimes get 10-20lbs of hardcore from those alone...so.......

Only had VERY small amounts before, scissor hash size. Love the devastating and deep high.

You just have to save it...I just gave someone like...maybe.....smaller than a golfball...bigger than a gumball, etc.........guy never had scissor/finger hash before.......was very, very nice also.....

Please, feel free to 'litter' these all along our journey, expands the mind...truly

Dude...anything...everything....you pay attention in life you see it...everywhere, all the time.......just how you observe the world that determines what you draw from it... I drive down the street.....I see shit that makes me think...(when not looking for new spots ....)

Cheers! Happy harvest to all! The last spot I had near the trains has been mowed! The surroudning veg was from 4 foot to over me when I planted. Bastards, found out they hadnt been tending it because 'rains' had been too heavy....all summer??? More planning to next, lots of fishing to be done in this weather

You know they hire private landscaping firms to service their property ........(my dream contract ) Sorry to hear...had the same thing happen..I said somewhere above..(but they shaved all after they found that stretch....) All depends where you do them though...if access.....you assume they will at some point....(access meaning if they can get riding mower, etc)...same with the highways...some areas they tend to, some they don't....sorry to hear.....I had loss myself this year, so...right there with ya....

What can ya do......(see, why you want 50 other spots everywhere ...)

 

[NPK]

And also still considering ways to market and get the word out best for poop-scoop service. Looked around, someone else does this locally, but from talking, most people havent heard of it...

I first read about that right here, and I thought, that's f*cking brilliant. People would definitely pay for that. Hell, I have a buddy who works a lot of overtime, in addition to having two dogs--and unfortunately, he's one of those who just lets the beasts out in the yard to do their thing because he's too wiped out to take 'em for a proper walk. There must be a thousand more like him, busy folks with shit-filled yards.

As for marketing, dude, put up ads on craigslist! Do it regularly. And also print up flyers and post 'em on every public bulletin board you can find. (There are businesses that do just that: post other folks' ads on public bulletin boards.) Whole Foods would be a good place for that--has a high-end clientele willing to pay for services--and the one in my area has a bulletin board. The ad should have those tear-off tags with a name and number. And get the word out among your friends. You'll get a few clients, and over time, if they're pleased, they'll give you references. After awhile you'll get a lot of folks through refs.

Writing! Guys, no lie, that's exactly the career I got so sick of. As such, though, I can tell you there are more avenues for scribes than just journalism. One can write advertising copy, too. Plus, all kinds of companies need business writers. You can also write and edit technical documentation and other business materials. These gigs pay quite well, as much as $60 per hour at this time and in my place. I just gave a buddy a lead that landed him a $60-per-hour contract. Beware though--after some years, this work can also make you want to suck a gun muzzle. That's why I didn't follow up on that lead myself.

As for a biography--Julian, I'd sure love to read yours.

I drive down the street.....I see shit that makes me think...(when not looking for new spots ....)

Now I look for 'em whenever I'm out in my car, too! I don't mind driving quite as much as I used to.

 

[Julian]

I first read about that right here, and I thought, that's f*cking brilliant. People would definitely pay for that. Hell, I have a buddy who works a lot of overtime, in addition to having two dogs--and unfortunately, he's one of those who just lets the beasts out in the yard to do their thing because he's too wiped out to take 'em for a proper walk.

The one I am thinking of...can't remember name...I mean, they're ****in huge....really...(from like nothing to something in yr or 2.....) and, if they are smart...I would think all that shit goes to some source for processing, for further benefit/$ ....) Was reading how they have the corporate accounts...lot of landscaped grounds...wildlife, ducks, geese, etc....same deal (they have like a riding vacuum...have actually seen several stories on them.......)

a thousand more like him, busy folks with shit-filled yards.

I laughed when I thought that applicable to any one, any area of their life

"Just working....shit piling up everywhere"

As for marketing, dude, put up ads on craigslist! Do it regularly. And also print up flyers and post 'em on every public bulletin board you can find. (There are businesses that do just that: post other folks' ads on public bulletin boards.) Whole Foods would be a good place for that--has a high-end clientele willing to pay for services--and the one in my area has a bulletin board. The ad should have those tear-off tags with a name and number. And get the word out among your friends. You'll get a few clients, and over time, if they're pleased, they'll give you references. After awhile you'll get a lot of folks through refs.

My old dog walked built up huge within short period of time with just the flyers and tear off's in public places, gorcery stores, etc....also expended to pet sitting, grooming, all that stuff...has quite a few people I think now....

Craigs list can be touch and go....some things explode...others nothing...but, you try, you follow through (ie: not one ad...once daily, etc, for like a month, etc......ll marketing needs repetition...people tend to underestimate power of marketing/advertising...it's repetition..(They say something like someone needs to see something 6-12 times before they call...something like that...) All depends...everyone different though....I go for things when I need them, so...I only see things once, and, for a lot of people accessibility is number one (your not available? Down the list I go until I find someone who is, that I like, etc.....)

On animal notes: I was looking into that to set someone up in something..."Bonded and insured" laughably cheap...they have one major company, and, it's like $200 a yr to be bonded and insured ..(looks good on advertising though ......Can be good too....some places?.....$30-$40 a day to board a dog......etc......so....couple walks, a bath, watch one or two now and then while people go on vacation?......not bad money...($100 a day from a $300 start up..limited/free marketing, etc)...Problem these days is the glut of them, so.......then it's overcome by personality, etc...ie:" People stay away from people they don't like and do business with who they do ...so....

(Same as income streams...when you get into marketing a little more...multiple sources, all tracked for results...etc, you drop what yields nothing and increase with those sources that do, etc....whole science to it actually..not just an ad, etc...so...same deal...multiple marketing sources, etc......always a good thing.....)

Writing! Guys, no lie, that's exactly the career I got so sick of.As such, though, I can tell you there are more avenues for scribes than just journalism. One can write advertising copy, too. Plus, all kinds of companies need business writers. You can also write and edit technical documentation and other business materials. These gigs pay quite well, as much as $60 per hour at this time and in my place. I just gave a buddy a lead that landed him a $60-per-hour contract. Beware though--after some years, this work can also make you want to suck a gun muzzle. That's why I didn't follow up on that lead myself.

See...that's pretty interesting to me...didn't know about those angles.....I like that......been looking for ways to make money when I have insomnia (I don't trade foreign markets, so...otherwise I suppose I could all day and all night......)

As for a biography--Julian, I'd sure love to read yours.

Well, you got a taste here .....But I left out the good stuff ....

Now I look for 'em whenever I'm out in my car, too! I don't mind driving quite as much as I used to.

Driving?.......to me?.....prized...........My "vacation".....ideally no calls...just blow one.....keep an eye open....driving when I do the most thinking and most ideas....anytime, anywhere....day time......nighttime when I hop in cars unannounced and take off for couple hours to see if I have company coming along for the ride .....I really don't listen to anything for most part......(music) always doing something, so...car when I check out rought tracks...other stuff..(great stereo )...yeah......driving...when most of everything comes to me....review day......look around...ideas....blow one.....check some music stuff, etc....and.....come up with new spots (along with strategies...ideas......methods....etc.....)

To those of us who get irritated (drivers...road raqe) (I used to be one...took me 10 yrs to shake it off, and, I can tell a couple very interesting stories about real life altercations ).....a story: (told it yesterday to someone )

Two Monks (Zen) were walking along......and, they came upon a river, with a beautiful woman stuck, needing to get across.......

Without breaking his stride, one of the Monks picked her up.....carried her across, and, set her down, and, kept walking.........

After the second monk was finally unable to remain silent, he turned to the other and said "How could you do that?...Why did you do that?"...

The monk who had carried her, turned, and replied:
"Oh......the woman? I left her back at the river......Why don't you also"

Not to mention that in a major metro, you not only have app. 40-80k LE (corrections, local, sheriff, state,marshalls,fbi,dea,etc) but also a good 10k+/- senior members of OC (LCN,Russians,Asian,Columbians, Greeks,etc), and, another 200K whom are members........300k+/- armed people...ready and trained to use it.......

(Not counting me )

No place for it...don't like it? Pass em, and keep a steady mind

I have a couple stories ranging from ****ed up to insane........

Driving time.....use it to your benefit .....**** everyone else.......(plus, some come in handy.....let them go ahead and take the ticket ..That way, when they're pulled over down the road, you know it's clear for a while

Rambling.....

Baby shit

 

[NPK]

My old dog walked built up huge within short period of time with just the flyers and tear off's in public places, gorcery stores, etc....also expended to pet sitting, grooming, all that stuff...has quite a few people I think now....

Exactly! My buddy's ex-gf is a professional dog walker--has been for a good ten years now. She has done phenomenally well (bought her own house in San Francisco, which is no mean feat), and that success branched off into every area you mentioned. She also has more people asking her to house/pet-sit than she can handle, especially around the holidays. She used to pass those gigs to my pal. And for a long time now, she's been in a position to say yes or no to new doggie clients. If someone's dog isn't well-behaved, she won't take him on. Now she's working on a doggie daycare business, and I don't doubt it will go great guns.

My pal actually wanted to start his own house/pet-sitting business and could have had a great start with his ex's extras, but somehow he never ran with it. I was never able to understand his passivity, until one day he said something that indicated he was afraid of what other people would think if the business failed. Afraid enough to not even try, when he had ZERO-ZILCH-NADA to lose and plenty to gain. Shit, I even gave him an excellent name for the biz: Bow Wow Meow Pet-Sitting Service. If I were a prospective client I'd have chosen him for the name alone! But he did nothing with it. That was a disappointment because I think it really could have become a good thing for him.

Craigs list can be touch and go....some things explode...others nothing...but, you try, you follow through (ie: not one ad...once daily, etc, for like a month, etc......ll marketing needs repetition...people tend to underestimate power of marketing/advertising...it's repetition..

Totally true. Repetition makes a huge impact. I agree with the once-daily posting on cl, too. The site's software won't allow you do post the same exact ad twice within a certain time period, but you can tweak the verbiage such that's it's essentially the same. Or you can delete the previous day's ad and then post the new one--day after day.

Damn, I love this thread.

 

[Julian]

Exactly! My buddy's ex-gf is a professional dog walker--has been for a good ten years now. She has done phenomenally well (bought her own house in San Francisco, which is no mean feat),

I'm semi impressed......(know San Fran values, etc) You know...to anyone not familiar with it, and, find it silly.....Ummm.......the rates break down to about $60 an hour or more , so....(sometimes up to $25 per 15 minute walk, etc....$100 per hour billing, etc..) Not as cheap as most think (when they hire, they pay out something like 10 an hour to the actual walkers, etc...of course, variations, etc....and, really, limit as far as one can go an expand if only as much as one wants to do...again...add everything else along with it.....potential there.....

and that success branched off into every area you mentioned. She also has more people asking her to house/pet-sit than she can handle, especially around the holidays. She used to pass those gigs to my pal. And for a long time now, she's been in a position to say yes or no to new doggie clients. If someone's dog isn't well-behaved, she won't take him on. Now she's working on a doggie daycare business, and I don't doubt it will go great guns.

Yeah, lot of things they can add although I don't agree with turning down people (throw in the Ceasar angle and couple double everything Ceasar Milano is the LA dog guy.....psychologist, etc.....nothing anyone can't learn though....I personally always say anyone, anywhere, anytime, who has, have had, will have dogs should watch as much as possible......actually pretty interesting show........very interesting....

My pal actually wanted to start his own house/pet-sitting business and could have had a great start with his ex's extras, but somehow he never ran with it. I was never able to understand his passivity, until one day he said something that indicated he was afraid of what other people would think if the business failed. Afraid enough to not even try, when he had ZERO-ZILCH-NADA to lose and plenty to gain. Shit, I even gave him an excellent name for the biz: Bow Wow Meow Pet-Sitting Service. If I were a prospective client I'd have chosen him for the name alone! But he did nothing with it. That was a disappointment because I think it really could have become a good thing for him.

Good angle........everyone, anywhere, anytime fears failure......of course.....But, how to avoid that altogether is to start things "on the side".....and, as such, less falls upon it's success..(although the flip side would be that as such people might not dedicate as much into it to start with then, etc....)

See, the other problem with this specific topic and industry is there is becoming a glut (glut? ) in a lot of places..(too many people trying to do it, etc)..Of course, what will happen as with any industry is those lacking social skills, serious approach, fair pricing, reliable service, etc, will fail and market share goes to those who behave as they should etc...I'm pretty easy going...could really give a **** about most things, but, business matters I take serious and really pisses me off (was just talking this week about how I will dismiss people over the most minor things.....No call back in a timely fashion really rubs me the wrong way (sometimes much more )....

People always talk of "being busy"...but, you know what?....if your busy working.......then you should be busy working (ie: How can someone say busy working when not servicing clients? .....ya know?........One of my pet peeves......I actually got into it with my bank yesterday because they pissed me off about something I took as offensive, unprofessional..especially with new clients etc....what you say, or do not say may determine if you secure them or not (ie: Your busy? then tell me your busy and will get back to me later when you get a minute, etc.....)

I do......

Totally true. Repetition makes a huge impact.

I forgot what the actual stats are, but, of course, marketing a science with stats on repetition, etc.....

I agree with the once-daily posting on cl, too. The site's software won't allow you do post the same exact ad twice within a certain time period, but you can tweak the verbiage such that's it's essentially the same. Or you can delete the previous day's ad and then post the new one--day after day.

Yeah, it's once every 7 days for same ad but of course, placing also depends on category.....(you have people who span and do 50 ads a day to try and dominate, etc, so...in some cases and cities and categories...once every couple days may be enough...for others, a single ad on a certain day may get pushed back big time........but, again, onces responses, etc, and, other things may secure people......very good (CL) for a lot of things....contractors do well (if you return call, and, quote reasonable)...lot of other stuff, but, again...depends on category, etc........

I just threw in the caution above because I wouldn't want someone to run a couple ads on CL and use that as a gauge of success of failure......different things have varying degrees of success in different mediums, etc (but, again...what are you going to do once you have contact with the prospect, etc...)

Might work with some, might work with others, and, referrals never to be underestimated depending on your industry.....(One of my business's essentially now private...no advertising..(Haven't in almost 10 years).....small group of clients I've had for years....I won't even talk to someone new......"not accepting new clients at this time"

Damn, I love this thread.

Glad of use and interest.......

Was thinking also about some endorsements.......(just bought some this week)....

My number one preference for scissors are actually kitchen scissors.....strong enough to cut a 1" stalk...yet small and sharp enough tips to do fine trimming work.......(just bought new because my one pair finally broke....got about 3+ years out of them......which for me is absolutely astounding.........

Wal Mart..."Chicago Cutlery" kitchen model......minimal cleaning, no sharpening (optional), and can use without a problem for years....cost under 10 bucks...I bought a bunch for everyone I know ......Can use em in field....can use em home...and, off season, can use em to cut through bones and meat Really my all time favorite......never a problem...(and, how they are constructed they are essentially "unbreakable"......No bolts...they interlock ...(problem with last pair...no interlocking...bolt finally rusted and broke after several years....)

If CC model(s) not in stock....again, go with the sharpest /pointy tip (for fine trim work).....of course, kitchen so larger....very comfortable to use..(no small holes for fingers, etc....)

(I cannot even begin to estimate the amount the last pair has seen Literally ....) Yeah...I like them so much, and they are so efficient and effective I bought a bunch for everyone ....(Yes, I did get a raised eyebrow when I bought xx number ...but...whatever...they're kitchen scissors ...)

Also, as discussed here and elsewhere earlier, I've switched over to cardboard boxes for a while now....(as of couple weeks ago...once true volume hits I go boxes...previously...just dried, clipped, bagged for cure...)......I think superior...all agree who sample .....(ie: dried/clipped or clipped/dried, boxed, then bagged....I do a light/tight compress in the boxes btw.....but, have to always watch sizes and volume has to be appropriate...ie: a refrigerator box would probably not be effective .....But, again depends on method....for a while now doing the out hang,(last several rounds) then trimmed and tossed right into boxes...filled, compress, closed and tossed into stacks....all depends on condition (dry, little moist, etc...all depends....little moist might leave for another day before...if slightly, less...if on drier side than I go heavier and do careful light compress (will moisten up a little and distribute throughout, etc....) Boxes my favorite though........

 

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Damn, I love this thread.

Yes, learning so much, inspired to reach into newer things...if i can start something small and modest before large harvest, even better, more knowledgable, more contacts for future business. Best I've come across. I think I'm starting to notice a difference in my (anybody) Can do attitude, like why not,again, if i dont, someone else will

Dog walker that bought a house in San Francisco, I like this, because in one of my many low points, I was considering it...ads the same way, bulletin boards, paper/web ads, and references...just never did it, honestly didnt think enough money....but people buying houses in SF??? Thats awesome, maybe not something I would do now, but I appreciate the idea of doing something small, and just unravelling the ball until your exhausted, cant take on additional...

Driving?.......to me?.....prized...........My "vacation".....ideally no calls...just blow one.....keep an eye open....driving when I do the most thinking and most ideas....anytime, anywhere....day time......nighttime when I hop in cars unannounced and take off for couple hours to see if I have company coming along for the ride .....I really don't listen to anything for most part......(music) always doing something, so...car when I check out rought tracks...other stuff..(great stereo )...yeah......driving...when most of everything comes to me....review day......look around...ideas....blow one.....check some music stuff, etc....and.....come up with new spots (along with strategies...ideas......methods....etc.....)

Oh yeah, more truth in this. I cant say how many times I've been writing ideas down quickly as possible on highway telling myself I need a damn tape recorder.

Its like on the road...you know the roads, know where your going...so that you can let the mind wander, entertain yourself for an hour...very different than trying to sit at home and come up with stuff. On my last contract, had a lot of 70 80 hour weeks, no time at home really, lunch hour didnt offer nothing, but on the drive, almost filled a notebook with short philosophies and realizations.

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Hey guys, found a new tool for plotting a spot...outstandingly useful...IMO...for those that use web-based maps, you can go to google, and of course scope some area with 5-20+ miles gaps between roads, near streams, so find what looks might be good, can use sateleitte for eye view of area (veg, area arrangement, and switch back to plain map easily

so you put in the nearest city, and your state, then click directions, any intelligent person will see the highlighted words near the top, insert your city, or your 'preferred' starting city and what you do is grab the destination arrow, this is great, you DRAG it, to your CR BFE, river, lake, tank, and it will give you your directions to the middle of ****ing nowhere...

that easy, your starting city, the closest city to possible plots, click and drag, instant results...I'll be using this during the fall, cant wait

Question julian, not having a lot of outdoor experience, I have no idea how much water it takes to feed (w/ water crystals in soil) an 8 or 9 foot plant, If I have 20 plants, along 50 feet or so, how large of a res should I make?

I know you dont do much irrigation, so if anyone else knows, please chime in. Only expecting rain once a month for most part, with most temps high 90s, couple dips in 100s...

Gotta do some practice irrigation this fall, never done before, would like to see what it takes to move volume across long distance...gotta rotto tiller and a huge yard

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I feel I can make next year promising in some way, and too, in multiple ways

mucho gracias amigos

 

[Julian]

Been out of pocket.....little exhausted, but, will hit this one quick.......

Question julian, not having a lot of outdoor experience, I have no idea how much water it takes to feed (w/ water crystals in soil) an 8 or 9 foot plant, If I have 20 plants, along 50 feet or so, how large of a res should I make?

I know you dont do much irrigation, so if anyone else knows, please chime in. Only expecting rain once a month for most part, with most temps high 90s, couple dips in 100s...

Gotta do some practice irrigation this fall, never done before, would like to see what it takes to move volume across long distance...gotta rotto tiller and a huge yard

Okay........

Your talking about irrigation, rez, but then saying yard..........If your talking yard......or, anywhere which access and maintenance is not an amazing feat....changes it of course quite a bit....I'm tempted to say forge the crystals, but, the fact of the matter is you might not want to just because.......

Lot depends on as above....ie: Getting them in while wet, prep of spot and soil (loose, prepped, whatever you plan to do, which of course will effect how quickly they will grab, and, reach........

Meaning the quicker they reach deeper, the better overall.....

As far as how much a larger plant can eat daily....I mean, I think it's anyones guess....(now, some will state what they feed plants in containers outside....but, I don't really believe in, or, see a reason for doing so because my personal opinion is it defeats the purpose since yield is directed related to your medium/mass......To illustrate this, of course imagine a 5 foot tall plant in a 2 gallon pot, vs. a 20 gallon pot (yield)....you can, of course, do it (2 gallon)......but of course that 2 gallon vs. a 20 vs. directly in ground would of course, all have varying yields.....(building from smallest to largest to in ground, but, of course, in ground would depend on what kind of prep/soil...etc......

(Of course, larger and more a plant grows, it's diet and feeding schedule does proportionately.....indoor, out, regardless of medium and method, etc........ie: For example, you could have RW soaked, put a clone.....might last 5 days before drying out....vs. a month or more later...might be dried out within half a day, quarter, etc, etc....Larger is is, more it eats, any way you slice it....and, of course, growth and yield proportionate...(I know, I know, your saying "well, that doesn't really answer how much would a 9 footer eat..."......Don't think it can';t be answered due to the above......(I don't water really, so, I would have no idea......I've heard such things that the size and conditions you described could drink 5 gallons a day.......and, could even be more......could be less, but, of course you would just do it day by day and try and estimate the schedule yourself by what you see and feel, etc......

I'm a chronic overfeeder...always have been....ie: push it, push it, push it until any signs you should back off...so, again, another angle......what does it need vs. what can you give it....

Then some would say you want penetration (and, you do....).......which of course is greater when allowed to dry out before next watering, etc.......

Best is probably do full prep(hole, any amendments, anything you desire),with full watering, let it grab, then go from there....(I basically always do, and have done, as above.....I get them in before rains, plant, full complete water (soaked), then rains come in within couple days, and, from there, I never have to water again for the most part.....

Could I?

Absolutely....would do nothing but increase yield......

You start at "optimal", and, work your way down from there to what is reasonable, feasible, and acceptable.....(optimal would, indeed, be steady feed...according to size and diet (ie: some strains heavier feeders than others, etc...)

Lot of people will debate horizontal vs. vertical penetration and prep....(4 x 1 vs. a 4 x 4...) , both seem to get very good results....so......I really have no opinion on the matter, having done both.......(I've done early....3" peat pots in 3" holes, nothing else and a top feed and had heavy 12 footers.......I'm sure yield would have been greater with some prep, but, obviously, was not what I was aiming for when I do that.........all above earlier, where, how and why, so, won't revisit...just trying to touch on all angles.......)

If we me.......20 large?....(I'd go for topped multiple for bushes...I don't like the larger.....16 footers I have really pissing me off.....PITA....)...I dunno...also depends on what your like to do...you say rez, and ask about volume (water/daily-feed) so, I'm assuming less amendments (nutes, organic or otherwise) and looking to feed from rez, etc...so, I dunno...depends also when you want to fill......you could say 200....(20 x 10...), and, see how long to go through it, etc.....to start?.....much less, as above.......late in season?.....maybe 2-3 days?...etc......Really all depends on a lot as above, so....you'd just have to see, and adjust accordingly.....size, weather, strain, period in it's life, etc, etc.......

Even when I have done things in similar situations....still hit them with dry or in hole (so plain water, no rez, etc).....and, if shows a need, then would hit it, so........but, sure enough there and the angles to give you a starting point.....Most I know are in the 500-1,000 (galons) range, so....but, I'm sure they would agree that the flip side, yet again is that when you want to alter diet for any number of reasons, it's a problem because your already holding 200-400-600 gal +/- of current mix, etc....so.....for that reason also I would sooner do smaller and fill more often, ya know?.....

Hope of help.....tired man.....feel myself wandering ......but, should be clear enough....lot of variables.....

 

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Hope of help.....tired man.....feel myself wandering ......but, should be clear enough....lot of variables....

LoL I see that..

bah! bad wording on my part maybe... I prefer dry/top fed ferts...maybe a shot or two of some liquid bloom...res just to supply water, every other day or so I guess...mention volume because wondering how long a 'small' pump has to run to move 200-400gal 300ft away, with about a 20-30foot vertical rise...

best I suppose to return to most spots within a week/ week and half of planting, shouldnt be beyond repair if goes either way, b/c if can use irrigation, thats like, way reduced visits, way better than going out weekly to make 10+ trips with 2 5 gallon buckets....gets real dry here for 2 months or so every year.

lol, I mentioned backyard, as in I woiuld like to go ahead and buy a pump, and run a test from a small, say 50 gal res, to a wildflower path or some winter herb maybe...get an idea for length of water release...i dunno, dont know jack about irrigation yet...slowly, since last night, been reading irrigation threads, i dont have much chance at finding a downhill from creek spot, so...

for record, soil will be near fully amended, I saw some of your drilled holes, LMAO, if only soil looked anything like that around here...but I love mixing organics anyway, kinda like cooking for a party, the more the merrier

so, expecting roots to penetrate quite quickly, and plan on using mulch, plentiful nearby and I've heard about good results with it

Yeah I'm sure your busy tending to lbs and lbs (perhaps next year ill have a small taste of that) ...best you take care of...appreciate you stopping in to say something...maybe I'll get real into it and buy a book on irrigation....

 

[Julian]

LoL I see that..

Uh oh....was it opvious? (3 people told me within the last 24hrs I looked the worse than they've ever seen me .....run down, tired, etc..)

bah! bad wording on my part maybe... I prefer dry/top fed ferts...maybe a shot or two of some liquid bloom...res just to supply water, every other day or so I guess...mention volume because wondering how long a 'small' pump has to run to move 200-400gal 300ft away, with about a 20-30foot vertical rise...

best I suppose to return to most spots within a week/ week and half of planting, shouldnt be beyond repair if goes either way, b/c if can use irrigation, thats like, way reduced visits, way better than going out weekly to make 10+ trips with 2 5 gallon buckets....gets real dry here for 2 months or so every year.

lol, I mentioned backyard, as in I woiuld like to go ahead and buy a pump, and run a test from a small, say 50 gal res, to a wildflower path or some winter herb maybe...get an idea for length of water release...i dunno, dont know jack about irrigation yet...slowly, since last night, been reading irrigation threads, i dont have much chance at finding a downhill from creek spot, so...

for record, soil will be near fully amended, I saw some of your drilled holes, LMAO, if only soil looked anything like that around here...but I love mixing organics anyway, kinda like cooking for a party, the more the merrier

so, expecting roots to penetrate quite quickly, and plan on using mulch, plentiful nearby and I've heard about good results with it

Yeah I'm sure your busy tending to lbs and lbs (perhaps next year ill have a small taste of that) ...best you take care of...appreciate you stopping in to say something...maybe I'll get real into it and buy a book on irrigation....

Okay, so, your talking yard for test run, and guerilla prepped/amended holes with irrigation and occasional hit with nutes (organic or otherwise)....

Well, offhand, I would always go with greater power/capacity than you need anyway, within reason and able to utilize power source...(****, you can buy battery powered pumps starting pretty cheap...then all depends on site.......ie: lines in place running to water source.....for straight watering...or, rez on site with lines........timed, or manual, etc, etc...I mean, I don't do it but I could point you in direction of several who actively do, and, of course, sure a lot of threads on it (should be if not)....

Above states an incline and pitch and of course I would think you wouldn't want to set up to pump up incline if site allowed.......much easier of course to set up and run lines down and then possibly not even talking any power needed at all (gravity feed?)...Would depend on site, layout, vegetation, etc, but, would definitely want to feed downward I would assume (I certainly would)...I know I've seen cheap ones somewhere recently (like 200gph, something like that) battery powered (D's) for piss cheap but, again,....I would always go most power available for anything you need, etc.....ie: If you need 200, better to get something rated at 1,000, etc, run at 25% of load, etc, as compared to a 200 running 100% capacity/load, etc, etc.......I assume same with anything else (I'm not the "mechanic" , so.....but, that's how I look at any and everything and prefer it, etc....

Yeah, the holes ......I think everyone should have power augers (and weedwackers and chainsaws for that matter ....makes all work a hell of a lot easier and quicker, but, of course, depends on location....ie: noise.....not as loud as must thing...just sounds like a small bike from a distance, and, if strong....can pump out as many holes as you like fairly quick to begin with (limiting the duration of sound, etc)......about every 30 seconds more or less in almost any soil (worse might take 60 seconds, etc.....so...1-2, possibly 3 holes a minute....picture misleading, but, can see from length/height of drill bit.....12" wide x up to 3' deep depending on how much you lean into it.....30 seconds.....really can't beat it....can go with native soil mixed...worked.....can go with 50/50....or, can even leave drill/hole excess on top around hole and fill with own mix, working the top excess around hole for even more.......ie: drill......drilling leave all dirt from hole around top of hole.....fill with your own mix, then dust/mix into excess around top for future feeding.......

Yeah, earlier in season/earlier rounds (the "guaranteed" end), I drill, amend, plant, water, before rains, and, then, basically never have to go back.....I assume after 2 weeks....they've already hit the bottom of the hole.....(I have in gallery things less than 7+/- days from cracked seed with 7" roots....so.......wouldn't doubt placed into aerated/amended/watered hole, rains on top, after week or two they've already hit bottom.....

Note to above..."mounds" can also help when a little too much rain....as long as some roots are above/receive oxygen.......they're usually good...I'm no stranger to water issues/problems......(boots outside drying out right now...was in spots today went over top and filled em...but, plants fine.....I know, I know...roots, oxygen, rot, etc, etc, etc....I've already been through this and provided documentation regarding the above....100% submerged no oxygen?....a problem.....50-60-70% submerged?....I do it all the time...many ways, shapes and forms....all pics are beautiful white......water not aerated/no air pump/stone btw......)

Anyway...pumps...incline/pitch, capacity, power.....I'd start with the specs on whatever you start looking at and if not adequate then do some searches to see if there are formulas for determining additional power needed per 1' rise....pressure tables.......etc....something like that...sure there must be formulas and tables somewhere for such things...(I'd just call my guy, couple people and sure I'd have an answer.....must be standard formulas...maybe associated with plumbing or something to that effect....etc)

Anyway, always lot of angles......But,l yeah, I really don't do irrigation so by no means would be the authority, but, many do, so....lot of ways you could run it and I am sure someone running each of those.....

 

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Uh oh....was it opvious? (3 people told me within the last 24hrs I looked the worse than they've ever seen me .....run down, tired, etc..)

lol, funny you say so, though I meant more the variables, lol

yeah, using the auger search term provided what I was looking for. I have a lot of trouble getting past 2 feet with shovel or otherwise, and if having to haul in good soil for 20 plants, no need to exhaust myself on holes when I can make it easy

Well, offhand, I would always go with greater power/capacity than you need anyway, within reason and able to utilize power source...(****, you can buy battery powered pumps starting pretty cheap...then all depends on site.......ie: lines in place running to water source.....for straight watering...or, rez on site with lines........timed, or manual, etc, etc...I mean, I don't do it but I could point you in direction of several who actively do, and, of course, sure a lot of threads on it (should be if not)....

absolutely makes sense...pumping 200 gal every other day, get one rated for 400, maybe 800. Can always spread more plants out, add lines if wanna tax the system...

also been reading about battery powered, sounds effecient...unfortunately very flat around here...not much chance of arranging water downhill to plants...but in that case (being so flat)...the creeks should keep more ground moist I would think. I've got a few questions formulating for another thread/member.

I've added mounds as well as some small trenches to the list of ways to keep water to plants...very dry, and I would love to think I dont need to see them more than once a month or less, plus that way, come harvest its like this big surprise/gift, lol "oh hey, what are YOU doing there, pretty lady..."


You use a ****ing chainsaw too? Really like the idea of hitting dense area with 3/4 power tools just ripping it a new one, and building it up your way, lol, might try such techiniques, never have before, some places could use it, other wouldnt get any benefit

I see what you mean about standards/ tables for pumping uphill. Well, probab;y truly only like 10-20 feet of rise at most, would like to be higher, in case of flooding, but will have to see what some sites offer, waiting to take care of warrants before can really start scoping spots, dont worry, just tickets

thanks for quick response

 

[Julian]

lol, funny you say so, though I meant more the variables, lol

Always variables.....rarely anything cut and dry...most of the time solution is merely "we're going to go with ___", etc...You try, revise, etc....always....

yeah, using the auger search term provided what I was looking for. I have a lot of trouble getting past 2 feet with shovel or otherwise, and if having to haul in good soil for 20 plants, no need to exhaust myself on holes when I can make it easy

I hear ya.....not a pleasure for anyone....even small ones can be PITA....(a lot of em, etc..)

absolutely makes sense...pumping 200 gal every other day, get one rated for 400, maybe 800. Can always spread more plants out, add lines if wanna tax the system...

Well, not to mention angle of you always want purchases to be of long term use....I'm not cheap, but, I hate to have things with life sitting around useless, etc, or have to get rid of em, etc...so.....always go with best thing....can work into larger and larger projects, etc....(machinery, of course, harder it works, shorter the life, more potential problems, etc.....)

I don't know if 200 every other day is necessary..(who knows..later in season, heat, weather, might be, etc.....) as above, throughout season, and cycle, and size, and diet, needs change, so....depends lot on your site and rainfall, etc...(You stated maybe once a month.....a 2"+ all day heavy storm goes a long way, especially if crystals and some good soil, so....also depends on your placement to start, and, as above, when and how you get them in....(placement meaning of course the plot....can utilize bottom of hills and such, etc,...lot of areas will of course stay moist longer than others, etc, etc...so......)

These are all things everyone has to work out, plan and contemplate, etc, etc....some think of objective as "optimal"....I think of objective as easiest for me.......what is going to make my life easier....require least amount of effort, etc, etc, so...everyone has their own desires and goals.....of course, you want to come somewhere in the middle (as close to ideal as possible with least amount of maintenance, which goes to the above..planning, placement, etc, etc, etc.....

also been reading about battery powered, sounds effecient...unfortunately very flat around here...not much chance of arranging water downhill to plants...but in that case (being so flat)...the creeks should keep more ground moist I would think. I've got a few questions formulating for another thread/member.

Well, rarely is anything totally and completely flat, so......again, you keep in mind and try and work that to your advantage..(even a 5' rise...slight pitch can help out with such things....)

I think creeks, rivers and such give much more groundwater than people think offhand......(talking couple feet down, etc....) I plant a lot of spots that are..........maybe 200' from a river, and,.......can see clearly sometimes, etc.....haven't watered those spots ever....at all...not once.......(but, again, those go in early and deep before rains, etc, so......they're settled in and reaching...)

I've added mounds as well as some small trenches to the list of ways to keep water to plants...very dry, and I would love to think I dont need to see them more than once a month or less, plus that way, come harvest its like this big surprise/gift, lol "oh hey, what are YOU doing there, pretty lady..."

People tend to find my conversations and comments to the girls much funnier than I do .....



Yeah, again, endless things...trenches, placement (bottom of hills and such), "wells"...ie: middle of plots dug out a little, etc.....shovelful could hold an extra gallon, which, when it comes down to it...couple extra gallons might be just what you need to get through to next rain, next visit, etc.....you watch weather, (as earlier, daily, because conditions change....storms dissipate, develop, etc....day by day, so...always have to keep on eye on 2 week outlook on a daily basis........could very well save you a trip at the last minute......which is priceless....

It's not uncommon for me to have things make it a month if in early, deep and established, so......all depends, again, on endless variables, separate and also combined.......not cut and dry at all....

You use a ****ing chainsaw too? Really like the idea of hitting dense area with 3/4 power tools just ripping it a new one, and building it up your way, lol, might try such techiniques, never have before, some places could use it, other wouldnt get any benefit

For my situation and experiences...absolutely.....I've got trees falling all around left and right in heavy storms.....some by or in patches, some across trails and roads, etc....so....got to be able to clear them out asap in some situations......ie: what are you going to do if you have a load packed and come to a tree blocking the only way out? ....

I see what you mean about standards/ tables for pumping uphill. Well, probab;y truly only like 10-20 feet of rise at most, would like to be higher, in case of flooding, but will have to see what some sites offer, waiting to take care of warrants before can really start scoping spots, dont worry, just tickets
thanks for quick response

Of course, such would also have wear and draw on pump and power, so...sure there are calculations somewhere about it.......could learn them, find them, etc....me?...I';d just ask someone instead I have enough stuff on my mind .....

 

[Julian]

Well isn't that f*ckin special...........

Seems that a single mindless little f*ck has just ruined the activities , profits, and rewards of who knows how many in an entire nation.....


Train Derailing How-To From Associated Press

CHICAGO, ILLINOIS — News that a dozen railroad spikes disappeared from a section of commuter rail highlighted a fear familiar to many train passengers: Sabotaging the tracks that crisscross the nation would be frighteningly simple.

Employees of the Metra suburban rail system discovered the damage Monday on Chicago’s South Side, where the spikes normally hold down metal plates that bind the rails to wooden ties.

“The tracks themselves are generally open and unguarded,” said David Heyman, director of the homeland security program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank. “Thousands of miles of tracks are not fenced, and they’re not watched.”

Those tracks “remain vulnerable to anyone who wishes to do something malicious.”

The FBI is investigating whether the tracks were sabotaged. A Federal Railroad Administration spokesman said if enough spikes were removed, the tracks could shift and cause a train to derail.

The United States has more than 140,000 miles of track that carry millions of rail passengers every year and scores of freight trains hauling hazardous materials. Potential sabotage also poses a risk to the untold number of people who live near tracks, experts say.

“You need a good crowbar, a spike crowbar,” and a strong person probably could do the job alone, said Robert Gallamore, who recently retired as the director of Northwestern University’s transportation center.

Steps are being taken — and more are in the planning stage — to beef up rail security. According to the Transportation Security Administration, about $110 million will be awarded to major rail systems this year.

But little is spent on railroad security, compared with the amount spent on air travel, said John Bentley of the Brotherhood of Local Engineers and Trainmen.

I edited parts of story not relevant........

And that's that I suppose.........it's not enough that you have idiots all over who don't know how to drive, or watch where they are walking and bring attention and some heat, but, now you have FBI and Homeland Security coming into the picture.......

Someone just bury that guy so we can get back to work ....

 

[Guest]

well that sure is nice...I live very near, have since I was like 10. Love walking from time to time, even hopping one for a mile or two of fresh air...

more security...

of course what they say is true...vulnerable...but waste of resources without a doubt IMO

one day I'll take a looooooonnnnnggg ride south....deep south...see if i can slow the clock a bit....