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Julian

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OLDFAMILYRED said:
julian, you make me proud to be in the same field=) youre a credit to us all,,,,,,,,
keep on kicking out the great reading material......lime
Well thank you my friend.....it's very kind of you to say....I'm quite humbled....

Hope all is well with you and yours, and, season/year treating you as well as you wish it to :smoke:
 

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Back to legal:
Everything is "engineered"....everything is a lie.

They're not your friend, they don't want to be, and, the entire process is psychological manipulation...

Edit: An offer of a cigarette.......permission to smoke, is not...(Relax subject, build rapport, which leads people to "open up"....Question about your family?....Just an opening to take the conversation full circle eventually...)

Say nothing, means N O T H I N G!

At All!!

For the fiesty :biglaugh: That would also include insults, comments, swearing.....Be polite. It makes a difference. (They got you....you lost....that battle is over. They won. Don't blow this one and risk losing the war :smoke:...

If you do not have an attorney? Request someone else (family, friend, etc...someone who is thinking clearly....) arrange one for you...

It's a stressful, shocking experience.(As in "shock"....not a figure of speech".....an assault on the senses.....as it is created to be. I would think the majority aren't of sound mind for quite a while.....and that should be expected and understood.

The first step to anyone handling it successfully is understanding all of the above, expecting it, and being absolutely aware of exactly what they are doing.

They're running a game on you.

Nothing more.

Know it, understand it, expect it.

When your back home....have a good nights sleep....good meal....have had time to think......attorney can sort it out.

That's their job.

Many don't understand the concept of a "mouthpiece" :biglaugh: There is a reason for that nickname.

Applies to everything......business......civil suits.......everything.....ie:Questions? "SPEAK TO MY ATTORNEY"

(I think everyone should memorize that if in anything questionable......)

They're not being paid for their charm or good looks :smoke:

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But, of course, the objective is doing it all right in the first place, eliminating all potential risk factors to start with......only leaving "X Factor".
 

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Julian said:
They're not being paid for their charm or good looks :smoke:

:biglaugh:

Hold on a minute... if a litigator, charm and even a look (one conveying gravitas... and if not too hard on the eyes, that can't hurt... really) is- or can (should really) be- part of the package of job assets. This applies to before a panel especially, but judges are human too and not immune to charm!
 

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:biglaugh: You know what I mean.......... :biglaugh:

(I agree, of course...but, you know :biglaugh: figure of speech :biglaugh:)
 

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A little fun :smoke:.....

So, I'm in the middle of buying something to flip.....it's vacant, good location, large lot, privacy fenced, backing forest preserve, nice wide spaces between back and garage and fence......etc, so....I figured why not make use of the next month or two..... (Note: There's a couple more than that of course :smoke:.......Figure by the time work is done and it's ready, should be wrapped up....total might even pay for the work, and then some......:smoke: (Not only 90 day or less turnaround, but, also money taken care of also :smoke:.........From seed to cleaned funds in under 90 days :smoke:...........Never ceases to amaze me..(One could theoretically also do either no money down, or have seller kick down payment and construction costs, and, pocket the excess :smoke:.....Flip net plus the green :smoke:....

What a country........ :smoke:
 
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lol, holy **** Julian, you are a sage man

I've been hanging around boards, like these, and OG, for a while...and ive been growing around...ah just a bit here and there, when i can, not a real indoor fan...but THIS is the first thread of this length I've cared to progress through, regarding each post. Thanks to all for keeping the ball rolling on this one

A lot, a whole f'ing lot, of what you say is very global, spiritual, and on and on,

I'm inspired...

I do have something to add, a little value to some of the late season bloomers...

Dont put off til tomorrow what you can do today, my first grow was some $15 beans from nirvana, that i cracked around aug. 3, and didnt hit the ground until aug 27, got 8 or 9 females, cant remember but def. some beginners luck thrown in, and harvested a nice little fall ps, nothing much, but enough to get the basics...so...if your thinking its too late..probably not, especially if you got some good beans on hand, from a skunky/lime bag, freebies,...in fact i think ill be going home soon and popping some white rhinos and kalichakras....itll be close...but wtf else am i going to do with them?

Thanks again for all the wisdom, its obvious that your a MAN of LIFE
keep on :joint:
 
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I reversed the post for a reason.....why, obviously below.

I do have something to add, a little value to some of the late season bloomers...

Dont put off til tomorrow what you can do today, my first grow was some $15 beans from nirvana, that i cracked around aug. 3, and didnt hit the ground until aug 27, got 8 or 9 females, cant remember but def. some beginners luck thrown in, and harvested a nice little fall ps, nothing much, but enough to get the basics...so...if your thinking its too late..probably not, especially if you got some good beans on hand, from a skunky/lime bag, freebies,...in fact i think ill be going home soon and popping some white rhinos and kalichakras....itll be close...but wtf else am i going to do with them?
I'm actually still putting stuff out, (wrapping up, or trying to....I'm very, very tired....and just geting busier with business matters...) but, have to admit, never that late, but, often advise people do do several rounds to see how certain things perform if they have been working with something consistently, so they can arrive at an ideal for their desires....(week by week one would see different sizes, and, might establish a certain time for certain strain reaching a certain height and size......

I love the lates, for all reasons previously mentioned.......(quite a few reasons....quite a few...)
onthecouch said:
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lol, holy **** Julian, you are a sage man

I've been hanging around boards, like these, and OG, for a while...and ive been growing around...ah just a bit here and there, when i can, not a real indoor fan...but THIS is the first thread of this length I've cared to progress through, regarding each post. Thanks to all for keeping the ball rolling on this one

A lot, a whole f'ing lot, of what you say is very global, spiritual, and on and on,

I'm inspired...

Thanks again for all the wisdom, its obvious that your a MAN of LIFE
keep on :joint:
You know......over the years.....I have had more than my share of trolls...who obviously see themselves in a certain way, which is usually fairly obvious by what they chose to say...(displays clearly who, and what they are, their situation, their age, in many ways....) They tend to think what they say carries some significance, and, many things are said to me.....

I try to merely offer things which may be of use to someone.....sometimes said in many different ways, as sometimes something put in a different way is all one needs to start a "chain reaction" of thought........

I say the above because I would say I am someone who tries to draw something from everything....and, sometimes, what most would consider something insignificant.....something in passes....really can set me off on an entire train of thought, and enlightenment.....and, the above (the troll fan club) would see that again as "bragging".....

Be that as it may.....I have to say.....not only am I humbled and flattered by that, but, I am eternally grateful........

You have my most sincere thanks, because, such for me has just occurred.......

The mere word seemed to set off a thought process........one which hasn't been as often as it should lately....

To me, it instantly conjurs up thoughts such as:
The sage never undertakes large tasks......only one one small at a time, as each great thing achieved is a series of small events undertaken which create the greater thing...........The sage encounters difficulties, but never experiences them......The sage is guided by what he feels and not by what he sees. ........

The above off the top of my head........the below, an actual passage....

The difficult develops naturally from the easy
And the great from the small;
So the sage, by dealing with the small
Achieves the great.
He who finds it easy to promise finds it hard to deliver;
He who takes things lightly makes things hard;
The sage confronts difficulty, and so has none.

The explanation of my gratitude is due to all of the above reminds me I have strayed lately from such.....(too busy, stress, too many things on mind, too many directions).....and , the mere word (sage) brought all that to mind.....

I've lost track of true objective...(strive to be "better" man.......perform in business......any one of any aspects...)

So, while I try to offer hundreds of posts and pages to make a difference to one...or some....

I only needed a single word to completely alter my train of thought.....

My sincere gratitude......That single word....that post....my own now.....completely altering my current train(s) of thought and behavior....(sometimes all it takes for me...)

I really needed that..(little jumpstart back to enlightenment...)..and, I'm grateful......:smoke:

Sincerely.

Hearing a single word uttered has put me back on track....What I strive for....what matters....what doesn't....

My respect that you took the time to read all, and, appreciation and am pleased found of interest and use. (If it makes a difference to a single person, served a purpose.....)



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I think more relating to the above is worth sharing.....

Some of my favorite passages....(see, I told ya...really set me off! .:biglaugh:...)

A cry of alarm. Arms at evening and night.
Fear nothing.

If an individual is careful and keeps his wits about him, he need not become excited or alarmed. If he is watchful at all times, even before danger is present, he is armed when danger approaches and need not be afraid. The superior man is on his guard against what is not yet in sight and on the alert for what is not yet within hearing; therefor he dwells in the midst of difficulties as though they did not exist.

(My favorite passage actually something regarding patience and observation, when to act.....something to the effect of "Dragon in the field, do not move", etc, etc (something to that effct....not a scholar, just use to my advantage...and enjoy it...)

Some might say "Well, what does this have to do with growing...especially large growing?....Well, if one cannot see.....I don't think either of use would have the time to explain it, nor would iut be understood :smoke:....)

But it all does....:smoke:
 
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^ you have to trust your jedi fully, and know that intuition is your strongest sense...........if you love something whole heartedly, and give to it selflessly,,,,,,true altruistic reasoning, then a maternal instinct kicks in, and through this, your intuition is prevoked...........like a mother, you should feel the weight of responsibility supporting life brings,,,,,,,this responsibility is all emcompasing, and when done whole heartedly , your intuition(jedi) is automatic, all thats left after that, is true uncompromising trust in ones self, and due dilligence.
this is a smidgen, of what your words sparked in me Julian my ever so poetc friend=)
i got more,,,,,,,,i know you do=) lime
 
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Alright Julian, here goes my "cleaned up" inquiry?

I am between 20 - 25 years old, been living on my own since 15, paying a hundred bucks here a hundred bucks there to crash at friends houses for a week or two at a time, pushin bags to feed my self and pay rent. Met a girl, moved into her parents house, saved up some money, we broke up, and now I have this huge (to me) nut to crack every month and no real income. Had an online project that was going good but fizzled, now I am back at square one.

I should be getting an ok job in the next few days, but only a few hours here and there.. Im frustrated because I dont even want a job, my online idea works, I just need some capital and a space to operate out of, but I have these bills killing me every month.

I have never filed my income tax return, never even thought about it actually, and now that I am ready to "get on the grid" I am nervous about my past coming up, all the money Ive paid in utilities and rent, my car, etc. Whats the best way to start "living normal" and 'legitimizing' some of my side stream income? Open a business account as you mentioned?

Im going to reread what you said about the business account, (dba, business checking, estimated quarterlies, etc) but is it really that simple? Isnt there something that can come back and bite you in the ass later?

So to sum it up, No legit income, no Credit whatsoever (not good or bad, just no history at all), small amount of cash to work with. How do I get started towards buying a business? How about a house?

In my head, the idea is to buy a business, then let that money serve as my income, which I will use to buy a house, more businesses, properties, etc. Is this sound? Should the house come first?

Maybe I am overthinking this, but the things you've said go against what many say is possible (cash business, dba, pay quarterlies. It cant be THAT simple, can it?), so I want to make sure I dont just move forward, only to find some type of snare that I didnt realize was there, and cant get out of.
 
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Basically, I know nothing about taxation and how it applies to me. My financial goal is rather meager, just looking for a passive income of 2-3k a month.

I reread the info on 'finding' coins by the tracks, being in a cash business, etc, but Im still confused because I dont know how taxes 'work' in the first place, i.e. what they look at, how to stay in-line, etc.

Im really just looking to have some apt buildings and a simple absentee owner business so I can pay for a home, where I can just chill, read, experiment, and travel from. Im not looking to be a baller, I just want my time back.
 

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I have never filed my income tax return, never even thought about it actually, and now that I am ready to "get on the grid" I am nervous about my past coming up, all the money Ive paid in utilities and rent, my car, etc. Whats the best way to start "living normal" and 'legitimizing' some of my side stream income? Open a business account as you mentioned?

Julian will probably be able to get down to the nitty gritty much more then I ever could.

But being in a similar age range, I know the position your in. I'm not in that one myself, but alas, I'm rambling.

Something I know, is that TONS of "kids our age" dont have jobs, they go to school or sit at home at their parents house and **** off... whatever the case is, LOTS of people in this age range don't have credit, nor a verifiable legit income.

If your making a car payment, your gettin some credit, (unless its private party financed?)

so in theory, being in your position with having nothing on file, no legitimate income.

you dont HAVE to get a 9-5 as your "first job" there are plenty of people that end up starting their own businesses and NEVER working for someone else.

Julian might have some pointers on this part (along with everyone else here) but if you got a DBA (like $50 bucks?) opened a business account for a small time cash business, you could start doing that, take care of the paperwork in the proper manner, pay the taxes, and you could be depositing that 3-4k a month easily with no questions asked. That'd get you on the way to being on the grid, legitly, and get the capital you want.
 
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bah...would have rather sent PM, but not enough posts...despite having 20 or more in my inbox, from old conversations...things change

It would be a lie if I said it didn't make me feel good to know I've humbled a giant, lol, no really, where were all the smoke/wink and laughing smileys?

And oddly, you still gave back, in an unexpected way...

If an individual is careful and keeps his wits about him, he need not become excited or alarmed. If he is watchful at all times, even before danger is present, he is armed when danger approaches and need not be afraid. The superior man is on his guard against what is not yet in sight and on the alert for what is not yet within hearing; therefor he dwells in the midst of difficulties as though they did not exist.


kinda hits close to things that have been on my mind a whole lot lately, and yet it confirms, like you say, what i really knew all along, haha

If nothing else, this thread should inspire people into thinking beyond what they normally think themselves capable of

Glad you could find inspiration in my words...thoughts also

And to the trolls, anyone who is looking for pics of 10,000 plants why dont you pay attention, and grow your own, the real deal beats pics anyday, this isnt in the grow diary forums

Thanks Old Red, your words ring very true to me
 
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I am between 20 - 25 years old, been living on my own since 15, paying a hundred bucks here a hundred bucks there to crash at friends houses for a week or two at a time, pushin bags to feed my self and pay rent. Met a girl, moved into her parents house, saved up some money, we broke up, and now I have this huge (to me) nut to crack every month and no real income. Had an online project that was going good but fizzled, now I am back at square one.
Ya lost me with moved in with parents and not have nut...(I know "nut" as monthly outlay, mortgage, etc....)
I should be getting an ok job in the next few days, but only a few hours here and there.. Im frustrated because I dont even want a job, my online idea works, I just need some capital and a space to operate out of, but I have these bills killing me every month.
I have news for you my friend........no one wants a job ....:biglaugh: Such is life and being an adult....:smoke: People always ask: "Should I do this, or this, or that".....My answer is always "Why one or other, why not do all?"....Multiple interests, income streams, etc...Can't go wrong and always covered.....
I have never filed my income tax return, never even thought about it actually,
Let's get one thing out of the way right now: Not filing is a criminal act. If your banking? You should be filing..(actually should be filing even if not if your within guidelines for filing....not sure about lower income levels...think it's something like 6k or something like that..(Could ask anyone....call accountant, even call like H&R block and they'd tell you over phone....)

(I really have no idea about lowest levels and requirement..know certain level....)
and now that I am ready to "get on the grid" I am nervous about my past coming up, all the money Ive paid in utilities and rent, my car, etc. Whats the best way to start "living normal" and 'legitimizing' some of my side stream income? Open a business account as you mentioned?
1.I would be a little concerned if you have a documented "lifestyle" with price tag attached and have never filed to match it.....(little concerned.....I'd ask someone about that....)
Im going to reread what you said about the business account, (dba, business checking, estimated quarterlies, etc) but is it really that simple? Isnt there something that can come back and bite you in the ass later?
When you re read, you'll see :smoke:
So to sum it up, No legit income, no Credit whatsoever (not good or bad, just no history at all), small amount of cash to work with. How do I get started towards buying a business? How about a house?
1.Sounds like you should stabilize before taking on house and/or business..(what are you going to do ig bad month...bad couple months......should always be stable before getting into such commitments....

2.Sorry, but, you should be working also..(I think everyone should....)

3.Credit? Simplest one of all.....(what are you driving?)....Can get couple cards oinline (you want 3)....minimal credit limits, but, the lines are what you want..(ie: you want 3 tradelines...)

b. If you can't? Then get 3 secured cards..(ie: you send them 500, they send you card for 500...eventually probably switching it into unsecured, you get money back, etc, and, credit lines increase...Credit is simple part....

If no credit whatsoever....keep house in mind for goal but put aside for now....

Business a little easier (as would be buying from private owner, who may or may not have credit pulled, but, cash also makes a difference and actually who you are. Assuming situation above, would think a smaller business (under 100k)....so....you'd still be looking at 20-30k probably minimum plus ideally some reserves in cash to cover bad months.....

c. Houses/property should also be notes to the best of my knowledge, due to all bullshit lately, 100% programs have now been pulled (for stated and no documentation....full documentation think they are still around....Can still go stated, may or may not be able to have seller contribute to down payment....all products (mortgages, loans) have different guidelines...some maybe, some not...
In my head, the idea is to buy a business, then let that money serve as my income, which I will use to buy a house, more businesses, properties, etc. Is this sound? Should the house come first?
Problem though that people tend to overlook is when your self employed, mortgages (full documentation ) are based on your NET.......(W2 borrowers on their gross...), so...problems for a lot of people..(ie: might make 100k, but, they write off 70, so, can only use 30k to qualify, which gets them nothing, so, why you see many business owners doing stated loans, no docs, etc (which are basically no income verification, no asset verification...and, are credit based..(need great credit....or, at least pretty good credit....)

Business's I worry about because in many ways more risky than a property...(ie: what are numbers....if great business, why don't they keep and hire manager, etc....but, are valid reasons...just trying to say.....hidden problems with business's can be harder to a novice to identify......(unless one is assuming there are problems, can identify them and plans to deal with them to turn it around...then a little better.....

Either way man....I think best bet is to build some stability and cash.....You never want to enter into either with no income source, no reserves, etc..(Of course most was mentioned in relation to people who work, and, are also growing, with a consistent stream coming in from both/either......From $0....well, have to start building a little my friend...grab a couple cards, secured or unsecured.....build some reserves......etc....

(Got a little lost during that...had an email needing attention...hope I covered it...if not, ask, say so.....)
Maybe I am overthinking this,
Fine line between "overthinking" and "covering all bases and angles.."...the latter being recommended.....
but the things you've said go against what many say is possible (cash business, dba, pay quarterlies. It cant be THAT simple, can it?),
Let's be honest.......

I have stated my experience, (real life) my exposure, what I have done. I have welcomed any and all to verify through third party sources (call mortgage broker, call real estate broker, call attorney, call accountant), and, any are always welcome to pick apart anything I state....

But they never do....do they? :smoke:

The simple fact of the matter is, as above: Everything I say is fact (we're not discussing opinion, we are stating facts...), welcomed to verify, welcomed to dispute.

Don't rely on people with no exposure to something for feedback
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Yes, it is that simple. Call an accountant and ask him :smoke: (I want to start a side business...know I need a dba to process any potential payment and open accounts, but, really don't want to go through bullshit of always having records, so...aside from deductions, will that be a problem....

Naysayers possess no real life knowledge or experience. Clearly displayed by their comments....

(On a different note.....goes back to above...people sitting around asking others in same situation as they are what they think, what they should do, and being told they cannot.....:biglaugh: Don't listen to them.....)

(Better yet, call up bank tomorrow, say you are thinking of opening a small business account for a side business you are thinking of....ask them what you need.....only dba? :smoke:....See what they say :smoke:.......)

Naysayers are jerk off's.....:biglaugh:

See...that is the difference my friend :smoke:.....Some people sit, and ponder and relay their preconceived notions with no basis in reality....

Others simply do it
....:smoke: (Easy to see why statements would differ :biglaugh:)
so I want to make sure I don't just move forward, only to find some type of snare that I didn't realize was there, and cant get out of.

All above....check with third parties for confirmation :smoke:...

On a different note, and, something I relay to people when they say they are interested in a business,m etc......some find it overwhelming, intimidating, etc....

What I tell them is this (still fascinates me....)
Get in car.......and drive.........

Block after block after mile after mile.......every business you could think of.......all run by "the average person".....

See.....the 9-5'ers are where they are for a reason......and, everyone else are where they are for a reason......

Both have completely different statements as a whole regarding the process....

Rely on the ones who have done it :smoke:.....

(one of my pet peeves......people without a clue who try and pass off that they do :smoke: Yes, it IS that easy :smoke:.......even easier :smoke:......Building and expanding and running it is the hard part :biglaugh: Creation? Banking/accounts? :biglaugh: Childs play, can be done literally in minutes....

(Call bank tomorrow and ask :smoke:)
 

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InjectTruth said:
Basically, I know nothing about taxation and how it applies to me. My financial goal is rather meager, just looking for a passive income of 2-3k a month.
Would depend on that bracket and how you structured it....(You have to pay quarterly......call also do.......I forgot...ETTPS?.....online payments, etc......I do them...have accounts set up....just pay online...I do monthly sometimes, just depoends when I make what, etc...good month, great month?...I might pay more, etc....)
I reread the info on 'finding' coins by the tracks, being in a cash business, etc, but Im still confused because I dont know how taxes 'work' in the first place, i.e. what they look at, how to stay in-line, etc.
As stated recently in indoor thread (input by someone who actually also has owned and set up business's also recently...) You state your income (hence "declare"...and, you pay your quarterlies...) Coins, tracks...that was a little more advanced dealing with other things :smoke:........Could be applied to smaller though actually.....

Key is basically excessive deductions.....I claim excessive deductions, can prove every single one though....so :smoke:.........I push it hard to the limit.....within reason and justification and also with services of accounting firm, etc (all people should have an accountant......not too expensive unless you abuse their services, so....fairly reasonable.........)

I'm less well versed on such things because of course those are left to them, as others are left to attorneys...(but, I tend to get more involved with legal matters because things I know about and enjoy, etc....)
Im really just looking to have some apt buildings and a simple absentee owner business so I can pay for a home, where I can just chill, read, experiment, and travel from. Im not looking to be a baller, I just want my time back.
That being said you may want to skip single family home, condo, etc, and, try to get into up to 5 units with intention of occupying (makes financing more reasonable..), and, can do again and again (kind of a problem if you said you wanted to move from a home into a building :smoke: Easier to start with building first, and, can get several under your belt......(they might want LOE though (Letter of Explanation)...which would just state at this point in time your taking a more active role as an investor, and, don't require a larger space, etc....Broker could guide you on what to write depending on the underwriters questions and/or concerns :smoke:...(I've written a lot of them :biglaugh:)....
 

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Im going to reread what you said about the business account, (dba, business checking, estimated quarterlies, etc) but is it really that simple? Isnt there something that can come back and bite you in the ass later?

InjectTruth, I've got friends who run their own businesses, and what you just described is pretty much how they started out and still do things. It's easy to start a business (a simple DBA fee and documentation, and maybe you'd have to run a few-line DBA ad in the classifieds, too). Chances are, your ass would remain unbit as long as you pay taxes on everything you put in your business acccount. And if you paid yourself a salary, I'm thinking the contents of your personal accounts should match that, too.

Just a few broad strokes off the top of my head. Also, I think ourcee's thoughts are spot on.
 

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ourcee said:
if you got a DBA (like $50 bucks?) opened a business account for a small time cash business, you could start doing that, take care of the paperwork in the proper manner, pay the taxes, and you could be depositing that 3-4k a month easily with no questions asked. That'd get you on the way to being on the grid, legitly, and get the capital you want.

Smart guy :smoke:

Psssstttt......RC.....

Wanna know a secret? :smoke: Shhhh...........

:smoke:

See, a lot of the time I will deliberately put false info out there to "test" the "experts".....(trolls? :smoke:)

:smoke:

A dba is actually like $5 bucks in many places, but, see, you have to publish it in the county where you will be based......so, newspaper ad, etc, adds on the extra 30-40-50 bucks, which is why I always call it $50 more or less :smoke:

Too bad the "experts" who claim to be don't know that :biglaugh:

:biglaugh:
 

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NPK said:
(a simple DBA fee and documentation, and maybe you'd have to run a few-line DBA ad in the classifieds, too).
Ding ding ding :biglaugh:

I just posted that....

You are the ONLY person who has EVER addressed that :smoke:
Chances are, your ass would remain unbit as long as you pay taxes on everything you put in your business acccount. And if you paid yourself a salary, I'm thinking the contents of your personal accounts should match that, too.
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Absolutely.......all have to match........(might never have a problem.....reason they should all match is in case you do ever have one :smoke:)
 

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onthecouch said:
It would be a lie if I said it didn't make me feel good to know I've humbled a giant, lol, no really, where were all the smoke/wink and laughing smileys?

And oddly, you still gave back, in an unexpected way...
No laugh and smile...........Was a display of sincerity....and, was quite serious...didn't see a need for them :smoke:...
kinda hits close to things that have been on my mind a whole lot lately, and yet it confirms, like you say, what i really knew all along, haha

If nothing else, this thread should inspire people into thinking beyond what they normally think themselves capable of

And to the trolls, anyone who is looking for pics of 10,000 plants why dont you pay attention, and grow your own, the real deal beats pics anyday, this isnt in the grow diary forums
I hope it does.......

Numbers?....easy for someone who faces probationto make demands upon someone who would face a solid 20 or possibly more.....

(I got 2000 almost in now from recently, and, could add another couple if I chose to......making total from last 2 months alone almost 6k...not counting the 5k I had just recently from April-June or so......so.... :smoke: I really am unaffected, and, more than welcome anyone to wave it off...:smoke: I'll readily admit I don't grow, never have, never will, all thread a lie, all bullshit.....:smoke: I hope people do believe/think that :biglaugh: Please....do :biglaugh: :smoke:)

(Hmmm...maybe I just start all those and take pics to be cool and then kill them all :biglaugh: :smoke::biglaugh:)

I don't expect many to understand......and, I think lack of being able to just a further testament to their actual knowledge (and more so, true understanding of the world and subject).....

Sorry......no interest in pics, articles, and, being "famous".....

Last thing I am interested in.....

Nope...it's not..(diary...) :smoke:

Anyway.........yeah man.....was sincerely appreciated it man and you kind of brought me back to a place where I should always be but haven't lately just with a single word :smoke:

I'm indebted........:smoke: Truly......(too busy...to stressed....too much going on...too many problems.....haven't been as focused or spiritual as I usually am lately :smoke:)

Maybe I would have had less resistance if I would had called thread "Do you "get it" :smoke: (But then people would think it was about how often they got some :biglaugh:)

Besides.....regarding numbers.....I got a pic in to basically illustrate every point I thought should be....so.......:smoke:
 
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