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3BM

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When visiting these locations, where do you park? Find a suitable location to park, then walk to the spots ... or park right over the spot? Is hiding the vehicle even a problem at night? Just thinking about this as I look over your latest photos. Visiting that spot, where is the car? Thanks in advance J,

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PHB said:
I for one would be interested in seeing the photos of plants near buildings even if the buildings are obscured. I think I have a sense of how you are able to plant late out in the open near train tracks, but I'm very curious to see what it looks like right in the middle of a city.
Well...........You can see how close to street these are, (2 lanes, secondary streets...fairly busy), and, if you look very close, you can see ...a set of window's next to the streetlight in this one...(5 -10 story office on a 4 lane :smoke:) (Pic(s) edited and links removed for various reasons...)


(Not only tracks.....Industrial, Railroads, Highways, Open Areas.......Wherever it can be done :smoke:)
PHB said:
Thanks Julian, you are a wealth of useful information!
Very kind of you to say....
cheddahtrees said:
Julian very nice words of wisdom you have written here for everyone. My buddy and I started our own venture into this realm (indoor) last year, both of us testing things out and experimenting around...learning a little more than just the basics....enough to be dangerous.
"Enough to be dangerous" :biglaugh:

Also very kind of you to say...Glad it's of use and interest. Really only purpose.
I've got to say though, I never really thought of doing what was suggested by this thread and I've read every single page of it. I follow along weekly thinking goddamnit this man is reinforcing many of the thoughts I've had to myself. Fear of stepping outside of the box, outside of the norm. That fear must be conqured for anyone to get anywhere, cuz as George Clooney said in the movie I was watching last night "You get the courage after you do that thing you're afraid of."
Builds character and confidence too :smoke:

Which flick? Any of the Oceans? (I haven't seen 13, don't spoil it...)

(The "Oceans" have a special place in my heart....some know why.......I know :smoke: some people like that :smoke: (
growers though.......always much funnier to me than other people :smoke:)
Anyway...I'm about a year and a half outta college, got a bachelors and started working for a company. I realized one thing in that last year and a half...this is not all I will amount to in my life. Its not good enough for me. I can not simply climb my way up the ****ing corporate ladder till I come to a screeching hault at the age of sixty something and I retire with probably as much as I started with
If you do the right things you won't have to anyway :smoke: (ie: Channel all money into making more money :smoke:...)

Everyone, anywhere, has 2 options.......spend your money....or use it to make more...
My friend and I have always worked shit together, maybe its the comfort of knowing you have someone else to fail with if shit doesn't work...but I think not...I think its cuz we're the sorta friends that understand each other and have the same mentality, so when we suceed in this line of "work" (and I have no fantasies about it, it will be work indeed) we'll be the only ones who can say yeah man we ****ing did it...cuz many others would never understand...."growing weed!!! thats not smart/bad/legal/moral/right"...how many words are there to describe it...well they've all been brainwashed by our government.
Lot of money out there....in every direction.......if green it must be..keep in mind overall tone, that being a "means to an end"......Don't forget basics....breaks.....change ups.......No reason ever to go down if always done right....

(Everyone wants money.....usually the question then is "Okay, so you have money, now what are you going to do with it:smoke:)
With that said, here is the situation, we want to do this and we will...none of that "ahhh...errrr...hmmmm...gonna have to think about it" bullshit. I bought a house at the beginning of this year and got me some roomies with which to pay my mortgage and things are looking OK for me (but I'm dire NEED of that extra cheddah...you know what I mean ). As for my buddy hes in the midst of looking for that first home and we wanna work the op outta his place. Before the end of this year things should be rolling smooth...

We've worked out the what, the when, the where....and we've got 1/2 the how (growing) under our belt. But we've got one small problem, the connections. I know a couple people, he knows a couple, might be able to move an lb or 2 in a month or so but after that we're stuck...now I know you had mentioned that there was a write up in the INDOOR thread, but I think it has been deleted as you said it might have.
In this specific case....you might be better off starting smaller and sources will be built as experience is....won't be surplus and inventory issues.....

I gotta say though brother............What I'm truly thinking is....education, already own something, corporate (representing solid income and already assuming good credit)...I mean...Dude....your wide open to take 100 different directions of more legal cash..
I would love to hear your thoughts on how to get those connections, you know, the bigger guys.
You don't find them.....

They find you :smoke:.....
We've been thinking about going to some festivals and things like that to meet people but lets face it....everyone thinks your a cop and you think everyone could be one too...
Not if your blowing hardcore :smoke:.........Blow a couple....during course of night....you know whose who :smoke: (and, as always, if your not sure about them?...well, then you don't make a decision about them....

Hesitation is always a no.......Everything else leads to moving further to finalize decision...but, you don't make firm moves unless your 100% correct....
Of course you can just pass it out amongst friends, but hell...where do you think that first 2 lbs would go. As you said, anyone can do this if they have the drive...its true...but not anyone can move lbs and lbs if they start off with a season of say something as small as 1000 even. I'd like to hear your experiences and some parts of your story from the beginning relating to this, and I know others who are involved in reading this thread daily ( I know you are all out there) appreciate it as well.
Above sums it up........you spread a little out...you blow some.....soon some return and show you....

You don't make it, you never speak of it, you never offer ETA's of a batch....You merely "know a guy"....and...your guys gets it from Cali.......:biglaugh:

(from his brother, who works on the set of Leno, and parties with Kevin Eauebanks....he once even blew one with Rodney Dangerfield and Charo stripped when they were in the hottub at one of Heff's parties :biglaugh:

(See how that works?..."creative license" :biglaugh:)

(Anyone can go to Heff's functions btw....one of my buddies has been to like 6-7....not as big of a deal as many think....)

(For some reason every one assumes everything hardcore is from Cali......God Forbid anyone else in world can make it :smoke: (and, of course, never dump anything less than perfect dry and cure, or, they know source is close...wrong people get a hold of it?.....Well, they're that much close and will exert pressure until they get you.....)

Service people are great, because you can stretch it out......but, as always, avoid people into colors (whitey and brown/H) ,like
the plague.....just puts you at risk to be flipped when they inevitably go down......cause addicts really don't adhere to the screening process ("addict" can be someone working, straight, clean, etc........"junkie", etc.....not only street guys...lot of corporate or "normal" addicts......The color determines how responsible they are...not their position in life )

Have to be relaxed...take time to "develop" sources....and, harder you push, more likely you are to encounter resistance......take time......things develop a momentum of their own, given time :smoke:
dj digigrow said:
lol...... I'm guessing L.I.R.R.
Don't forget the 10 Jersey lines my friend.......and the freight lines also

Keep in mind also how wide our true audience is...(They're always here...:smoke:)

(It's very nice to have you guys with us, as always, and, hope your enjoying the thread....btw....nice try earlier, better luck next time :smoke:..(There's a reason why I never participate in discussions about connections, tech, methods,etc... "A" for effort though...I'd appreciate a little more credit than that btw :smoke:)
bamboozled said:
you should write a book
I thought I just did :biglaugh:

Nice of you to say....I'm humbled and flattered.
3BM said:
When visiting these locations, where do you park? Find a suitable location to park, then walk to the spots ... or park right over the spot? Is hiding the vehicle even a problem at night? Just thinking about this as I look over your latest photos. Visiting that spot, where is the car? Thanks in advance J,
3bm
Depends what site/spot and what kind of entry points..........

Most of the time the answer would be:
Close enough to walk but far enough so if I have to make a last minute break if things turn South I can safely get to it.. :smoke:

Remember:
I'm just a guy walking home from a store, or, a guy jogging... :smoke:

I do also keep a couple changes of clothes in car for several occasions....

Always...

Maybe a mile or so away......Depends on spot....some a block or two, some a mile...sometimes...somewhere in between (ie: I'll park a couple blocks and backtrack, but, then come out several blocks other direction and have to backtrack again.....)

For example.....Let's say a site is 3 blocks ahead........Then I park 7 blocks ahead.......then go back to start of site (back 4 blocks)...then, in site, will make my way up 10 blocks of site, then, will exit site, and, have to go back 6 blocks, etc.....)
 
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Julian said:
(It's very nice to have you guys with us, as always, and, hope your enjoying the thread....btw....nice try earlier, better luck next time :smoke:..(There's a reason why I never participate in discussions about connections, tech, methods,etc... "A" for effort though...I'd appreciate a little more credit than that btw :smoke:)

Heh Heh. Your a funny guy.
 
cheddahtrees.. you need to find a friend that works at a bar or restuarant.. unless you have a 10k watt setup and actually pull 2lb a light.. you still wouldn't be able to satisfy one single small dealer that works at applebees and their friends for a whole year. The world is a very big place and although I dont hang out and drink everynight.. I'm sure you know some friends who do/did.

As long as you have a job.. you dont need to worry about how much you sell.. your job will pay your bills.. and you'll find after a few harvests that the only problem is making 'More' , not getting rid of it.

depending on where you could find someone to pay over $500 for it a z.. and they still wouldn't leave you alone.. if anyone thinks that's bullshit .. Try it. you'll feel guilty.. but you know what they say.. "can't rape the willing"
point isn't to overcharge.. but to show that your in the driver's seat.
 

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Jimmy. said:
Heh Heh. Your a funny guy.

:biglaugh:
Whaddya mean I'm a funny guy?......

Do I amuse you? I make you laugh?

What's so funny exactly?.....

I'm here for your amusement?....I make you laugh?....you think I'm funny?...

I'm funny like a clown?

WTF is so fuckin funny?

:biglaugh:

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ourcee

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goddamn Julian!

I was so excited, I went to throw a couple TW clones out at an urban location, considering I can hit 3 diff roads with a rock if I got a good toss... I feel its safe to say its urban :biglaugh:

well anyways I FUCKING BROKE THE SPADE!

dont ask me how, I was just workin the soil a bit, (was a bit tougher then I think it SHOULD be) and bam

eh its ok. I'm gonna get some crazy heavy duty stainless steel one :biglaugh:

lovin the pics, they look great (I wanna see a pic of those PP colas! if its an option for ya that is :smoke:)

got 40 more TW to put out, gonna put these ones in a diff location, I'm just loving it :smoke:

also I've got about a month left on the wreck I've got indoors, shits blowin up :biglaugh:
 

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ourcee said:
goddamn Julian!

I was so excited, I went to throw a couple TW clones out at an urban location, considering I can hit 3 diff roads with a rock if I got a good toss... I feel its safe to say its urban :biglaugh:

well anyways I FUCKING BROKE THE SPADE!
OhhHHhhhHHhhhhh my friend........ :badday:

Didn't I tell ya? :smoke:
1 piece stainless, rubber wrapped (handle).....never fail...

1.Overhand stab (if it doesn't sink up to handle soil not right, move over a little.)
2.Underhand twist...
3.Nute crystal mix.
4.Underhand twist...

Plant :smoke:

(working more into top/top feed optional :smoke:

I'm sorry to hear.....
dont ask me how, I was just workin the soil a bit, (was a bit tougher then I think it SHOULD be) and bam

eh its ok. I'm gonna get some crazy heavy duty stainless steel one :biglaugh:
:biglaugh:...yeah....

Eh...even good soil.....anything else than one piece stainless can bend em in half in 2 minutes...(I can...)
lovin the pics, they look great (I wanna see a pic of those PP colas! if its an option for ya that is :smoke:)
I don't have a lot of those in city, and, those are in a very dangerous spot, day or night, but, I think I can get a good pic at distance with zoom....(I've only checked those one time...other day (because PP's at other location almost done, so, wanted to check on those...of note would be that the others are only 100-200 miles north.....quite an interesting difference...)
got 40 more TW to put out, gonna put these ones in a diff location, I'm just loving it :smoke:

also I've got about a month left on the wreck I've got indoors, shits blowin up :biglaugh:
Good luck my friend......grab that stainless and be careful......

It's not easy being an "Urban Guerilla" :smoke:
 

ourcee

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yeah I was goin off on the soil, not doing so much the stab and twist, but working down a bit deeper, only did a couple in this spot, hell someone passed by on a bike while I'm 30 feet away :biglaugh:

the other spot I'm visiting soon will have MUCH better soil, nearby water sources, not as urban as the aforementioned one
 

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Remember:
If you have a cell, make sure it's off when going into spots :biglaugh:

(I'm in spot, trying to be as quick as possible, fuckin things starts ringing :biglaugh:)

Well, stab and twist, if done right, can get you about the size of a 16oz cup...maybe little bigger......and, you can work it in a circle outwards from center, etc..(ie: imagine overhanded stirring a pot, etc)..I like that way best for numbers and speed......:smoke:

Everythings in the hole, so.....bigger you can get it the better...(very soft I can do a 1 x 1 with spade in....eh......30 seconds......60 seconds....)
 
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ourcee

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yeah I put the phone on silent doing anything outdoors, great reccomendation that a lot of people might forget about


this soil isnt ideal so that was probably the deciding factor in it snapping. but yep, thats exactly what I did, sprinkle some crystals in it, sprinkle more as a top feed.

I still havent checked, but we've had some gloomy weather the past few days, so I think its PERFECT for "puttin em out there" type weather. Now if we just got more rain :smoke:
 

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ourcee said:
yeah I put the phone on silent doing anything outdoors, great reccomendation that a lot of people might forget about
:biglaugh: Forget the phone, if there was anyone close, they would have heard me laughing about it :biglaugh:Just an example.....every time, all the time.......easy to forget....:biglaugh: (But really important.....)
this soil isnt ideal so that was probably the deciding factor in it snapping. but yep, thats exactly what I did, sprinkle some crystals in it, sprinkle more as a top feed.
No,No,No my friend....I told ya, even in great, loose soil....wrong angle, pressure, can "give in" (Another reason I like the solid stainless.....can get a "true", "better feel" of what it is actually.....you'll see what I mean :smoke:....Hard to explain but I know you know what I mean :smoke...

Don't forget when working in the top, make sure worked in..(if crystals...don't want them exposed....if only dry nutes, not as significant.....but, want to make sure worked in....)
I still havent checked, but we've had some gloomy weather the past few days, so I think its PERFECT for "puttin em out there" type weather. Now if we just got more rain :smoke:
exactly.........[/i] exactly[/i]......overcast before a rain, can get em in and even better......exactly (note...if crystals and can get fair amount of water...that might last em also an extra amount of time..know what I mean....ie: if overcast for 5 days and not extremely hot.....watered well and crystals, then a rain...can make it...not bad at all.....(Sometime when I am doing a lot...I might do like all week if I know rains coming weekend (so all done by time rains come.......for the most part all turns out well........(although one of last rounds I did them earlier, rains didn't come in, sooooo.hoping it all turned out well...haven't checked on those yet, so...hope not a loss..(couple hundred...)
 

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Just a quick mention here, I've been doing a little casual looking around for water crystals, came across one that is supposedly based off of corn starch and is PH neutral, biodegradable and made with potassium instead of sodium. The water keep crystals linked earlier may be same/similar, but it seems like documentation on them was pretty slim.

Zebra is the company/product I stumbled across, availability seems pretty limited, but it was an interesting read nontheless.
 

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anyone seen IN POT WE TRUST on showtime.. they showed the san diego marijuana eradication team... for the whole county they only have 1 spotter.. he says he can spot 50 different hues of green..
anyways.. he sees this one bunch of plants that looks like maybe 2000 from in the air... next day they go to get it, it turns out to be 15,000 plants... hoses ran all over, it was a mexican grow... found a camp and everything... they were feeding it miracle grow... they showed 1 plant had to be at least 10-12 ft. tall.... crazy....
 

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dj digigrow said:
hey J, what's in your nute mix??

Well, you know, I really try not to repeat, (so as not to bore) so, you can find that here, posts 261 and 262.

Depends though, I of course might run out, and, not going to do another load and mix so just hit Wal Mart....they have organic mixes for like $1 a lb, some other general (not sure if organic, believe so) for like, $2.50, 5lb boxes....Just depends when.....And, if no choice, go for MG......sometimes mix last of things with other things, etc, by eye....just depends, you know?, but, prefer post above, "the good stuff" :smoke:.....Just depends when really and what's on hand....sometimes some left, sometimes not and have to improvise...
 

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For the record the 5,000,000 plant "grow" I posted a link to the other day... word is it turned out to be (unsurprisingly) feral hemp.

I love slow release Osmocote, but it's kind of expensive for large grows. When I did large grows I had a farm supply store that sold 18-18-18 Chevron Unipel encapsulated slow release for about 25-30 dollars for a 60 lb. bag. It worked about as well as osmo at a fraction of the cost. They don't make that particular brand anymore but fertilizer bought bulk at a real "Feed and Seed" where farmers buy will be a good bet. Farmers won't pay inflated prices for their stuff.
 

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Re: tools. Don't get cheap when buying tools, whatever small amount you initially save getting the Chinese made knock-offs won't be worth it when your tool breaks in the field and it costs you another trip, with all the unecessary risks that entails. American made, name brand is usually best, though I like Swiss-made Felco for their hand pruners, small foldable pull action saws and small loppers. Also a pocket chain saw will easily take out saplings almost silently and pretty fast and they are cheap and take up almost no room. Throw one in your pack if small trees/big brush might even be an issue.
 

PHB

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Pimpslapped, I think you mean Zeba. Zebra is something else entirely ;)

Pimpslapped said:
Just a quick mention here, I've been doing a little casual looking around for water crystals, came across one that is supposedly based off of corn starch and is PH neutral, biodegradable and made with potassium instead of sodium. The water keep crystals linked earlier may be same/similar, but it seems like documentation on them was pretty slim.

Zebra is the company/product I stumbled across, availability seems pretty limited, but it was an interesting read nontheless.
 

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pakalolo420 said:
For the record the 5,000,000 plant "grow" I posted a link to the other day... word is it turned out to be (unsurprisingly) feral hemp.
Hey my friend.....

Was it still 5,000,000 though?....(see, my immediate hesitation about number anyway, was "Yeah, who counted it" :biglaugh:

:smoke:

(Not a job I would want (count these...."YYYYyeaH....RIGHT" :biglaugh: :smoke:)
I love slow release Osmocote, but it's kind of expensive for large grows. When I did large grows I had a farm supply store that sold 18-18-18 Chevron Unipel encapsulated slow release for about 25-30 dollars for a 60 lb. bag. It worked about as well as osmo at a fraction of the cost. They don't make that particular brand anymore but fertilizer bought bulk at a real "Feed and Seed" where farmers buy will be a good bet. Farmers won't pay inflated prices for their stuff.

Yeah, that's about it.....bulk, good source......25-30 bucks for all the good stuff more or less....(50+/- bags)

You know, my only hesitation and why I tend to "mix up special" batches is of course we need heavier micros...ya know?....so...(I always wonder about that with a lot of products...yeah, npk looks fine, but, are they going to fall short on micros....)
 
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