Maria's Subtropical Outdoor Guerilla Grows with Connoisseur Genetics (Perpetual Journal)

[Eltitoguay]

But at least here in Germany we have a very robust lobby of the pharmaceutical companies. I get the impression that they aren't keen on r+d of naturally occurring (not easily patenable) substances...

...So, surely you know or have heard about the heroin epidemic of the last century in Western Europe that I was referring to...

And I also suppose that the economic/business lobbies are another impediment to the fact that we have not learned the lesson of Covid, and we do not have in our Union a public pharmaceutical company to create certain drugs of great general interest (researching with enormous socioeconomic benefits and creating highly qualified jobs at the same time).

 

[Old Piney]

simple populist vulgarity of that thought,

No I don't think so the cartels are pure evel spending poison and dealing in child sex trafficking they have caused untold misery on the Mexican people they deserve no protection or sympathy form anyone. No the US governments far from perfect but the but the Mexican governments is corrupt as shit and doing a real shit job of protecting it's people. What is being proposed is not a full out land invasion, it's a few strategic strikes, ( blowing up the Fentanyl plants )because The Mexican government won't do shit .Don't try to twist this around and blame this evil on the US because one corrupt president (Obama ) was supplying them with rifles and I'm sure they still get there somehow through the black market. So stop bashing the USA you and a good part of the world enjoy peace through Our strength and my tax dollars, it's time for you all to belly up and get your own or at the very least Pay For it ! glad your happy with your government

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Looks like some rain is about to come in.
Not a lot, but enough to keep the medium moist.
Tomorrow forecast for cooler weather.
But Wed, Thu and Fri still quite warm -- 22C - 26C highs -- and fairly sunny.

Keep growing my little ones, make use of the warm weather while you can!

As for next week, looks like winter finally getting here!

 

[Eltitoguay]

No I don't think so the cartels are pure evel spending poison and dealing in child sex trafficking they have caused untold misery on the Mexican people they deserve no protection or sympathy form anyone. No the US governments far from perfect but the but the Mexican governments is corrupt as shit and doing a real shit job of protecting it's people. What is being proposed is not a full out land invasion, it's a few strategic strikes, ( blowing up the Fentanyl plants )because The Mexican government won't do shit .Don't try to twist this around and blame this evil on the US because one corrupt president (Obama ) was supplying them with rifles and I'm sure they still get there somehow through the black market. So stop bashing the USA you and a good part of the world enjoy peace through Our strength and my tax dollars, it's time for you all to belly up and get your own or at the very least Pay For it ! glad your happy with your government

The argument continues to be absurd (apart from twisting the arguments of others: I have no sympathy for narcos or hatred of the U.S.): ... If a government as poor and corrupt as the Mexican government deserves military actions like the ones you describe for not controlling private narcos...: What did the one who created the crack epidemic among its population to finance its foreign policy deserve? Or did it cause a heroin epidemic in half the world so that the Afghan mujahideen could pay for the weapons against the Soviet invasion (and who caused it, was not the one who paid with the taxes of his people the gigantic cost, by the way)? And with the gigantic aggravating factor of not having the excuse of their limited power and poverty...

...But surely this is not the subject of this thread, and does nothing but muddy it up, so I apologize and stop definitively with it.

 

[Herbert Chickybaby]

You think , suppose and guess wrong about me. I'm a huge fan of free speech , I'm from New Jersey. It's funny I have one nephew and two nieces born in Mexico as well. I like Mexico and the Mexican people and culture been there a few times. Without getting in to politics at all I will say that the Mexican drug cartels are a no joke bigtime evil threat and we should blow them the F up Lindsay Graham is 100 percent right .I see your from Los Angeles that explains it

Thank you for clarifying what was annoying you, Señor Pine Tree, I never would have guessed. I don't want to get into an argument, and muck this very nice thread up anymore than I have but I will just say or ask you this and then I'm done here, do you think the solution to the cartels is to invade and kill hundreds and thousands if not millions of innocent Mexican people and take over Mexico? Thats what Graham was talking about about 4-6 months ago, hence i spared him no mercy in my dumb joke. It would make the "problem" of the cartels even worse and Graham probably knows that and thats why he wants to invade mexico. I think Ron De Santis was talking about that too, so they are probably both getting some milk and cookie money from General Dynamics,Raytheon et al, ie, the militray industry to say that and plus it makes them look good to other tough guys so that they get their vote. So even if i did agree with Mrs Graham what he says doesn't mean that much hes just saying whatever it takes trying to get a few thousand dollars in his brown envelopes. Its as disgusting as the Cartels and people like Graham would be doing that kin dof stuff if they weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouths

 

[Herbert Chickybaby]

More love for our Mexican and Thai friends in this thread.
Awesome people, amazing culture, and the ganja is sublime.
This world needs more positive acceptance and embracing diversity.


My attempts to grow herb in Thailand didn't go well.
Had the season right, but my medium set up failed for the seedlings.
Can't say I've tried Mexican though. Yet.

Oh wow, I didnt know you tried to grow here. Yes, Its not easy at all. And you are on your own as far as getting your growing medium going, you can't just bop on down to the cannabis dispensary or garden shop and get all you stuff, there's just hard core chemicals here in agriculture shops and it does not work if you are planting stuff outside as do I, and I assume you, and you try to grow when people in the north grow, March-November, its actually the worst time to plant outside here and people who don't understand this will tell you you are an idiot and Thai people are very private indivisulistic and not trusting of anyone, so they are not even going to tell you they grow let alone help you try and grow its your problem and they are not interested in sharing. They are into their monocrop chemical agriculture thing here big time now. You are very hard pressed to find any materials that will help you say grow an organic weed garden. So you have to go get your own cow manure, bat shit, sand, clay, mulch or order it from afar as i do with bat shit, I improvise and my plants do well until they are just about ready to be harvested and then start rotting. I think once you learn the ropes and learn from your mistakes it can be done. I got a good pound or so out of my Honduras, it will be ready to smoke in about two weeks and I still have a lot of my Thai market seedling sativa style weed left from last year and it is quite enjoyable stuff, so the proof that it can work is already in and my Lao sativa project is so far so good, but again the problems that hit for October harvest were with the final phase. March hardly has any rain and it is quite dry, everything should be fine, though its about the hottest month hopefully that is not a problem for final phase harvest time. Anyway, I am using stuff that is just about all local sativa genetics, it should be fine.

All the best to you Maria, I'll ask Guru Rinpoche and Tara to look out for you, keep your eyes and ears open and you should get through your gorilla grow.

 

[Eltitoguay]

... I miss Mexico sometimes too, such great food. What an insane place. Fuckin Mexicans are crazy. I love it/hate it, volcanoes and daft, kooky shit all over the place, and "Hey, I have an idea, guys! Lets drink a bunch of tequila and haul ass down the mountain! If we die, we die, c'est la vie! Won't that be fun!" Its like a joke to them. God bless Mexicans ...

(To bring back the former festive spirit, only):
True; I don't understand the craziness of the Mexicans either, nor where the fuck they might have inherited it from....
...And now I leave you, cos' it has just occurred to me that it must be fun as hell, now that I have just taken the car out of the paint shop, to go for a drive with my colleagues through the countryside to have some joints and some rums...
Come on, get in and I'll give you a lift... Right there next to that bull we'll stop and have the party ...

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Oh wow, I didnt know you tried to grow here. Yes, Its not easy at all. And you are on your own as far as getting your growing medium going, you can't just bop on down to the cannabis dispensary or garden shop and get all you stuff, there's just hard core chemicals here in agriculture shops and it does not work if you are planting stuff outside as do I, and I assume you, and you try to grow when people in the north grow, March-November, its actually the worst time to plant outside here and people who don't understand this will tell you you are an idiot and Thai people are very private indivisulistic and not trusting of anyone, so they are not even going to tell you they grow let alone help you try and grow its your problem and they are not interested in sharing. They are into their monocrop chemical agriculture thing here big time now. You are very hard pressed to find any materials that will help you say grow an organic weed garden. So you have to go get your own cow manure, bat shit, sand, clay, mulch or order it from afar as i do with bat shit, I improvise and my plants do well until they are just about ready to be harvested and then start rotting. I think once you learn the ropes and learn from your mistakes it can be done. I got a good pound or so out of my Honduras, it will be ready to smoke in about two weeks and I still have a lot of my Thai market seedling sativa style weed left from last year and it is quite enjoyable stuff, so the proof that it can work is already in and my Lao sativa project is so far so good, but again the problems that hit for October harvest were with the final phase. March hardly has any rain and it is quite dry, everything should be fine, though its about the hottest month hopefully that is not a problem for final phase harvest time. Anyway, I am using stuff that is just about all local sativa genetics, it should be fine.

All the best to you Maria, I'll ask Guru Rinpoche and Tara to look out for you, keep your eyes and ears open and you should get through your gorilla grow.

Yeah. I started my seeds in maybe September, I think, trying to catch the end of the rains season.
I knew from where I am now, that it's not a 'spring to fall' grow season at all, as the 'summer' hot season is just so freaking hot and the 'fall' would mean maturing your ripe flowers in the middle of the monsoons. Haha, that would just be stoopid plus extra stoopid. So, yeah, my understanding of the seasons wasn't the problem.
But getting the medium, yeah, that surprised me. Had to really look around to find some growing mix, and after I bought it realized it was not fully composted and quite raw / hot. They started okay, but once they were in the ground, balancing the heat -- still very high around 37C-39C every day, then alternating with bucketing down with rain, and my site wasn't the best as I didn't have time to search properly.
So, anyhoo, that didn't happen, haha.
Worst thing was wasting those seeds, as I had Sannie's Jack and his Killing Fields (yeah, I know about the name, but that's what he called them...)

Though I see now that the street I lived on has about three dispensaries to go with the four 7/11 stores, within all of about 200m distance of my house, haha.
Buy, smoke, go for munchies, repeat --- brilliant!

Shiva -- Mahesvara, is my main man for protecting and blessing my grows.
But we also have Guru Rinpoche and Tara in the house, too, thank you.
Maybe I should specify 'Green' Tara, hahahahahaaa!
And the blessings of Sri Amma Bhagavan's ananda-soma.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

(To bring back the former festive spirit, only):
True; I don't understand the craziness of the Mexicans either, nor where the fuck they might have inherited it from....
...And now I leave you, cos' it has just occurred to me that it must be fun as hell, now that I have just taken the car out of the paint shop, to go for a drive with my colleagues through the countryside to have some joints and some rums...
Come on, get in and I'll give you a lift... Right there next to that bull we'll stop and have the party ...

Oh, my lawd!
Lucky to not get a horn through the window into the head or heart.
Just leave the poor bull alone, people.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

And now folks, back to our regularly scheduled program:

Maria Juanita's Marvellous Marijuana Madness

 

[Old Piney]

Sorry Maria but not so fast So as you all can see I was the one who did not want to muck up this fine thread from the start but after several back-and-forths it time to end the subject here I'm just quickly gonna answer a few questions. @

Herbert Chickybaby​

No I definitely don't and that's not what Graham or DeSantis are proposing.The American people would not allow it .what I heard was a strategic bombing of the cartel's fentanyl plants. Perhaps there was talk of taking out the cartels if we can. Quit frankly the Mexican government should ask for our for our help not complain , hmmm .Also Graham was not born with a silver spoon in his ( if that makes any difference) far from it look it up in Wicupeapia, a classic example of the American dream @

Eltitoguay as far as President Reagan's shenanigans with the contras and our Doctors and pharmaceutical companies getting people hooked on opiates you are correct and preaching to the choir. But hay that's decades ago. I Know nothing about whats going on in Thailand or Spain why is everyone watching what's goes on here and putting their two cents in? I I know I liked Thaiweed I order seeds from Spain and I like Clementines. peace !​

 

[Herbert Chickybaby]

(To bring back the former festive spirit, only):
True; I don't understand the craziness of the Mexicans either, nor where the fuck they might have inherited it from....
...And now I leave you, cos' it has just occurred to me that it must be fun as hell, now that I have just taken the car out of the paint shop, to go for a drive with my colleagues through the countryside to have some joints and some rums...
Come on, get in and I'll give you a lift... Right there next to that bull we'll stop and have the party ...

Yeah...I wonder... where they got their craziness...haha!

In Thailand, people just don't pay attention when they are driving, its as casual as walking, four people on a motorcycle, two kids standing up on the seat, driver checking phone for messages, what could go wrong? Hahaha...holy crap though, that bull. Reminds me of a story, A buddy of mine lives in Colombia and he is super into wildlife and animals and plants and bugs, he's always going into the jungle, but he's a very weird person, he is literally a crazy werewolf on the full moon he turns into a wild biting dog-like animal after a few drinks, I have even been bitten by him on one of his rampages, he was trying to destroy another friend's modular synthesizer with a baseball bat, maybe 15,000 dollars worth of equipment, which we were able to restrain him from getting, but he smashed a speaker up though. Apart from having a few drinks on a full moon he is pretty normal, he manages a coffee and vanilla cooperative in Colombia and goes way into the amazon, and stuff like that so he is very together, but hes a werewolf, not Mexican, but Irish-American from New York City. Anyway, to continue the story, three years ago he was at a bullfight in Colombia and he wanted to get good photos of the bull, because thats his big hobby is animal and nature photography. So, like an idiot he jumped into the bull ring to get a better angle and to get closer to the bull. He got his pics, turned his back on the bull and while still in the bullring started fiddling with his camera. He didn't even see the bull as it speared him straight through his torso on a horn and threw him and ran after him and stomped him and gored him again I think. He got flown back to hospital in New York, the doctor told him I'm sorry but you probably are not going to live. But he survived and is not crippled or anything and working again.

One time while on a Buddhist meditation retreat in the mountains in Thailand, we took a one day break even the lama and I was even in the car with him, we were driving back from some waterfalls in the mountains just a few kilometers from the Myanmar border, we come around a bend in the road and there was two huge elephants standing in the middle of the road fucking. We were too close, they were huge and I was terrified they would stomp our car with us in it like little mice compared to these huge fully grown Asian elephants having wild sex in the road. They ignored us luckily, but we had to sit there for like 15 minutes before they finally moved off into the bushes.

 

[Herbert Chickybaby]

Yeah. I started my seeds in maybe September, I think, trying to catch the end of the rains season.
I knew from where I am now, that it's not a 'spring to fall' grow season at all, as the 'summer' hot season is just so freaking hot and the 'fall' would mean maturing your ripe flowers in the middle of the monsoons. Haha, that would just be stoopid plus extra stoopid. So, yeah, my understanding of the seasons wasn't the problem.
But getting the medium, yeah, that surprised me. Had to really look around to find some growing mix, and after I bought it realized it was not fully composted and quite raw / hot. They started okay, but once they were in the ground, balancing the heat -- still very high around 37C-39C every day, then alternating with bucketing down with rain, and my site wasn't the best as I didn't have time to search properly.
So, anyhoo, that didn't happen, haha.
Worst thing was wasting those seeds, as I had Sannie's Jack and his Killing Fields (yeah, I know about the name, but that's what he called them...)

Though I see now that the street I lived on has about three dispensaries to go with the four 7/11 stores, within all of about 200m distance of my house, haha.
Buy, smoke, go for munchies, repeat --- brilliant!

Shiva -- Mahesvara, is my main man for protecting and blessing my grows.
But we also have Guru Rinpoche and Tara in the house, too, thank you.
Maybe I should specify 'Green' Tara, hahahahahaaa!
And the blessings of Sri Amma Bhagavan's ananda-soma.

Yes Green Tara is the one you want, covers all the bases, all the different Tara forms are said to function through Green Tara, she's your swiss army knife Tara.

Yeah, people in my area cannot afford the very high Thai dispensary prices, so there are none around here, there's maybe one or teo in the provincial capital cities perhaps where I guess you can get your bag of cookies or what have you, and not many are interested in weed here anymore anyway, it seems to be regarded as a very old school way to get high, its much more convenient to toss a few tabs of 20 cent methamphetamine crack (yaba) into your noodles soup, just like taking your vitamins or something. People have long really been into mdma as well, or in Bangkok anyway, but yeah they smoke a lot of weed in Bangkok always have since I've been here.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Next few days are full sun and 27C-28C!
Then crash down to 14C over the weekend...
Weather's been up and down a lot this year.

Would like to get in to water at those high temps.
Let's see when I'll get the chance...
Still praying that the gates will open a little for me -- 'Open sesame!'

At least the girls will love the sun and warmth.
See if they can put on a bit more height in the stretch.
Build that frame to fill out with plenty of calyxes later on.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Sun has gone and temps are dropping, while a crazy wind is blasting around the mountain, with fog/mist coming through.
Maybe the wind has solved my gate problems, haha!!
Still want to visit the site and do a proper watering though as they may need it after those couple of hot days.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 63 -- from sprouting!

7 days since last picture update and visit.
We had two hot days of 28C but the rest was cooler, and today down to 12C or something like that, with the usual strong winds, cloudy and misty enough to provide some water.

The gate is still blocked, so went through the jungle around the wall.


Building One:

Just this big pot with the two tiny Thai Madness girls now that Mr ThaiFrican has gone.

2 X Thai Madness (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 2 clone x (NH21 x MML clone Reversed) (11-14 weeks?)

Let's just show some pics.
The slightly larger girl has at least 20-30.

Calyxes are huge and bulging, with more smaller ones still developing.
I broke one of the older ones off, peeled back the calyx, and saw it was already getting a bit dark.
Give it two weeks I think, longer would be better, as long as the plant itself is still living okay.

And same with the smaller girl, though less of them.

A pity they are so small, but I still have 4 of these Thai Madness fem seeds from OJD (pack had 6, not 5).
And so having some crosses with her means I can grow the other ones fully sensimilla.

Building Two:

Let's start with some pics of them all together.
Give you an idea of the size difference between the SSSTN and the NH x MM.

1 X Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 1 clone X SSSDH OJD cut Reversed (10-12 weeks?)
Now in a 20L pot.

Just when I thought the SSSTN had almost finished her stretch, but was hoping she'd show her Thai side of things, she came through for me, and has put on more height and is showing a simply beautiful sativa structure!

Bottom right is actually the little sister, not a lower branch!
There's a separate photo of her, blow.

From above, she has a lovely X shape, with the branches coming out in good shape.
Tried a photo, but it doesn't show so much here:

Some more shots:

The two lower branches that were pollinated by Mr ThaiFrican have seed-set.
Not a long, I could count about 15 or so swollen calyxes, give or take.
You can see a couple of them here.

Hopefully this will help fix her female sex, and stop and hermaphrodite tendencies.
Not that I think she has any, but, can only help in this area.

Here's the little sister, coming along very slowly, but surely.

I gave the pot a water by picking it up and dipping the bottom in the balcony 'pond,' as a base-watering.
Then poured some more in from the top, to work that top dressing in further.

Shouldn't need watering for some time like this, especially now temps are lower.

Fun, fun, fun!

Love and hugs,
~MJS

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 63 -- from sprouting! -- continued ...


Building Two:

4 X Grail Project NH18 x MM pheno 1 (reg) = (NH18 x MM pheno 1) x (NH21 x MML Male) (12-16 weeks)
In a 15L pot.

Still surprised how small these plants have kept, but seeing the SSSTN I suspect that the NH x MM are also going to keep stretching for some time, yet.
They may have barely started... here's hoping!

Here's the Neville's Haze x Mullumbimby Madness family (Neville's Madness? Mullumbimby Haze? Neville's Mullum Haze?)

Haha, suspicious identifying finger in shot!!
Thinner more open light green girl on the left, brother (topped) in the middle, and a surprisingly tighter shape and darker green girl on the right.

From above:

Individually.
First the open structured girl.

and

She's barely starting as you can see,
The fun is yet to come!

Meanwhile, dark green thicc girl looks totally different:

Some big calyxes and trichomes forming in here!

Really want to ask @ojd what he thinks of this pheno? NL from the Neville's Haze? Or something else?
She's also had two lower branches pollinated by Mr ThaiFrican.
And I can see the swollen calyxes, so it was successful -- sorry no pics!
Not many seeds, maybe 10-20 for now.

Last, their brother, in the back.
He's just a thin branch hidden behind his sisters, but that's all I will need from him.
Not dropping any pollen yet, but close.
But today just not a good day for me to pollinate, so I removed the more developed anthers, meaning he won't be a father for perhaps another week or so.
Give me time to get organized, time for his sisters and the SSSTN girls to develop thicker flower clusters too.
I can try to do another round with the ThaiFrican pollen I still have, on the same flower clusters.

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Things progressing very well at this point.
We have at least three nice girls getting their shape together.
And will have at least 50-60 seeds forming of various crosses.
With another possible round of pollination to come.

Possible harvest date still far to early to say.
Shortest day coming very soon, less than a week away, Dec 22.
But even to the end of January is less than 11/13, six weeks from now.
And end of Feb is 11.5/12.5, more than 10 weeks from now.

The temperatures are not an issue, plants don't seem to care.
Today will be one of the coldest days of the year, I'd imagine.
Maybe we will go below 10C a few times, but not much.
And they are in a sheltered space from the winds, but with full sun exposure -- perfect combination!
Back to 20C+ tomorrow.
Subtropical and tropical grows everyone, with a 12 month grow season!!!!

Namo Shivaya!

Fun, fun, fun!

Love and hugs,
~MJS

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Question for all my friends with breeding / pollen chucking experience:

How long do you usually wait for seed maturation?
Do they need any extra P, K, Ca, Mg, etc.?
Present top-dressing is fairly rich, for now.

@ojd @blondie @Eltitoguay @Normannen @AceHaze @Hasch @Old Piney

 

[Normannen]

Question for all my friends with breeding / pollen chucking experience:

How long do you usually wait for seed maturation?
Do they need any extra P, K, Ca, Mg, etc.?
Present top-dressing is fairly rich, for now.

3 weeks from pollination is the least I have managed to get decent germination rates from that is if they have developed a hard shell with brown lignin covering more than 80% of the seed (that s after furhter maturation in a dark dry spot, 4 weeks being a usual minimum.
From experience, the best maturation happens when you forget that they are there and then you find them as you grab a bud to smoke, those are the best matured seeds and they are a good 3-4 months from pollination, if not more

 

[Maria Sanchez]

3 weeks from pollination is the least I have managed to get decent germination rates from that is if they have developed a hard shell with brown lignin covering more than 80% of the seed (that s after furhter maturation in a dark dry spot, 4 weeks being a usual minimum.

Thanks for your fast reply!

I just reviewed my journal here.
ThaiMadness girls first showing pistils around Nov 25, and would prob have been pollinated then already.
That's 3+ weeks ago.
The seed I picked out already had a hard shell on it, and was itself quite solid/hard.
But other seeds have obviously just been pollinated quite recently.

From experience, the best maturation happens when you forget that they are there and then you find them as you grab a bud to smoke, those are the best matured seeds and they are a good 3-4 months from pollination, if not more

Sure, that's very true.
Assuming I stash each plant individually.
And some girls I plan to pollinate with two fathers -- ThaiFrican and NHxMM.

I need to carefully note my pollination date(s): December 10.

I usually harvest but leave the pollinated branches on the rest of the plant in the ground.
Though, these are long sativas, and if I pollinate maybe next weekend, they may still have another 4-6+ weeks until harvest, so can just cut and hang the whole plant to dry, they take the seeds after that from each branch.