Maria's Subtropical Outdoor Guerilla Grows with Connoisseur Genetics (Perpetual Journal)

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 42 -- from sprouting!

4 days since last update.
Weather was cool with some sunny days, but then a bit of rain overnight.
That rain affected the male pollen situation -- details below.

Also, good news!
We have some crazy wind up here, really intense, like the edge of a typhoon, but on 4-5 days a week.
Those gates that were put up in the grow area were just totally blown open, and some other areas of the wall as well. The ganja gods are smiling on me! Just hope the people who put it up don't come back to check or care about it.

Building One:

1 X ThaiFrican (reg) = Outback Haze 2 clone x (Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male) (10-12 weeks)
In the biggest 20L pot:

He's in great shape. Or, was in great shape.
I left him like this:

The rest of him is still alive and well, with many more pollen sites developing.

He's been dropping a bit of pollen, but the wind means there is none to be seen on the leaves or the ground.
More on the pollen situation below.

2 X Thai Madness (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 2 clone x (NH21 x MML clone Reversed) (11-14 weeks?)
Sharing the 20L pot with ThaiFrican boy.

They are both so tiny.
The larger one (relatively speaking) on the left is showing some pistils, and even trichomes on the calyxes already. I wonder if those very early calyxes were already pollinated by Mr ThaiFrican? Good chance they were. I don't mind, not going to be much bud on these little girls, so might as well have a couple of seeds.


Building Two:

1 X Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 1 clone X SSSDH OJD cut Reversed (10-12 weeks?)
Was in a smaller 8L pot, but moved her into a bigger pot today, about 20L I think.

Looking pretty good, but she's hungry.
Not sure about how much more stretch she's got in her.
Hopefully she likes her new shoes, and decides to go sativa crazy on me, maybe with a strong Thai pheno there's a good chance of that!

Added some more of the flowering organic amendments as she is lighter down low (low N, prob), and gave it all a good watering in. So new pot with 3-5-5 plus more of a top dressing as well, hopefully that PK and a bit of N gets to her roots then back up to her leaves and flowers soon.


4 X Grail Project NH18 x MM pheno 1 (reg) = (NH18 x MM pheno 1) x (NH21 x MML Male) (12-16 weeks)
In a 15L pot.

The two tallest phenos -- top left and right -- are both males.

and

Very similar looking phenos, and showing sex now at 6 weeks under about 11/3 conditions -- useful to note for anyone growing these indoors or outdoors!
Not enough pollen sack development to collect right now, so I cut off their tops and stripped a few leaves to let more light and space for the other two.

Continued in next post due to pic upload limits!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 42 -- from sprouting, continued...

Then we had the one in the center back who was already sexed as a female, showing more pistils now:

Otherwise a similar pheno to the two males.
Obviously the females are usually a bit shorter, but similar size and leave shape, etc.

And now the shorter pheno has showed sex as female with just a couple of pistils:

Probably can't even see it in this photo, but she's a girl.

All are classic NLD, and still getting thinner leaflets as they grow.
Also added some more flowering organic nutrients to this pot and watered it in nicely.

After cutting down the two males, the NH x MM shared pot looks like this:

Maybe get some more pollen from one or both of the males, then they'll be gone and the whole pot left to the two girls to do their magic!

Fun with the larger Mr ThaiFrican male:

Took off his main cola, stripped the fan leaves, bagged it, and brought it home.
So windy on site, better to do this in a still air zone.
Separated out the smaller leaves and stems, all the anthers, then the anthers that have already opened and are just about to open.

The immature anthers still have a bit of sticky resin on them, so they are now in my tea cup sitting next to me.

Doing the boiling water decarb, but it won't be very thorough, just a few minutes and the water is cooling. Never mind!

And those mature anthers are in a foil pouch, drying in my laundry drying area which has the lowest humidity in the house.

Give that a few days, separate out the any plant matter, and I store it away.
Probably will be able to use it in just another week or two, so it doesn't have to be a perfect job.
May use the baked (dried) rice or flour technique, but this little collection should be more than enough to dust a lower or two on the females -- two NHxMM, SSSTN -- to make a few dozen seeds for future use.

If anyone wants to ask if Connoisseur Genetics ThaiFrican is a true NLD sativa, you can show them these pics:

Fun, fun, fun!

Love and hugs,
~MJS

 

[Maria Sanchez]

And... about 24 hours later, with the dehumidifiers running in my laundry space, I now have a nice little batch of pollen as all those anthers burst right open and released that lovely yellow powder I was looking for.

Wrapped in the foil and goes with a couple of little desiccant bags into a sealed zip-lock bag for storage. Ideally a sealable glass jar, but didn't have one, and these zip-lock bags I have make a very tight seal. Storage location is about 18C-20C. Didn't do the dried rice grain or flour trick, but don't think I need it.

They just have to hold there for maybe a week or two, not long. Should be fine. Would usually apply with a soft paint brush, but don't have one, so will use a cotton bud instead as I have plenty of those and they also work just fine from my past experience. Dip dip, dab dab, on a day with no rain, and that's all it takes, kids!

Pollination and seeds on the way soon! It ain't no 'breeding' but sometimes a bit of the old pollen chucking can get some nice results. This Mr ThaiFrican was a healthy plant, grew well, was resistant to bugs (remember, all his family members got chewed up!), and was quite early to show sex. So a bit of natural selection makes him a good candidate for a future father of NLD sativa (dom) plants in my climate and location.

Peace,
~MJS

 

[ojd]

Thanks, OJD.
After your generosity, though, I feel I owe it to you (within reason!) to grow these plants all the way to the end.
Security, yes.
Will try that other entrance, which may not require going through the closed gate or over the fence.
Actually, it will also get me into a separate row of abandoned houses as well.
So there may be other sites there, too.

You look after yourself and plants first, you won the seeds fair on the competition so you owe nothing although we love your show your putting on for us.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

You look after yourself and plants first, you won the seeds fair on the competition so you owe nothing although we love your show your putting on for us.

The show party must go on!
Thanks for being part of it -- no fun writing up a grow journal without any growmies to hang with, for sure.

After 48 hrs and getting the humidity down to low 40s%, used tweezers to remove the anthers and 'nanas, leaving just that precious yellow powder in the foil. Then sealed away with a few desiccant bags for now. There's plenty for my purposes in this run. And remember, Mr. ThaiFrican is still alive, so his lower flowers will still be producing the goods.

Temps up to mid 20s C today, sun is out. Next few days possibly warmer with bright full sun.
Hope Little Miss SSSTN likes her new shoes and grows into them soon!
And those NH x MM start to hit their stretch -- yeehah!

Have a great week you beautiful people!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Haven't visited the site for a few days.
But there has been a bit of rain, so they should be okay for water.

Meanwhile, on a fly-by, the gate is closed up again after being open for a few days.
Though, those strong winds we have here may somehow magically open it up in the near future -- who knows?

Kind of happy to not have to visit with the rain.
But still like to see my babies.
More rain may be on the horizon, but let's see what happens.

Meanwhile, other site location is under development.
Though no seeds dropped yet. Yet.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Down to 18C -- very cold for us here!
A bit of sunshine and quite a bit of cloud, but quite dry right now.
There was a bit more rain overnight, keeping that coir moist but not soaked (which is what we want)!
Maybe some more showers Sunday, more likely Monday, and then temps swing back up to mid 20s C and some more sunshine.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Reading other people's grow logs and seeing all these sativa and landrace plants still flowering to maturity at freezing temps, and here's me worrying about 18C. Haha, kind of feel a bit ridiculous, but I still worry about them. I guess those at high latitudes are already at something like 10/14 or even 9/15. I guess I still have a lot more light, too. Subtropical problems, haha.

 

[Eltitoguay]

Reading other people's grow logs and seeing all these sativa and landrace plants still flowering to maturity at freezing temps, and here's me worrying about 18C. Haha, kind of feel a bit ridiculous, but I still worry about them. I guess those at high latitudes are already at something like 10/14 or even 9/15. I guess I still have a lot more light, too. Subtropical problems, haha.

I assure you that here in my mountains it is much colder...

...and I'm harvesting this Thai A5 Haze so beautifully (photos from this morning):

Suerte y salud.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

I assure you that here in my mountains it is much colder...
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...and I'm harvesting this Thai A5 Haze so beautifully (photos from this morning): [snip snip]
Suerte y salud.

Oh yeah, you're a full 10C colder than I am!
What's you basic latitude and altitude (if I may ask?)?
I'm a bit north of the Tropic of Cancer and about 300m up, with the mountains behind up to about 1,200m high, and about 5 km from the coast.

Your Thai A5 is lovely!
She'll be ready for tasting by Christmas, so nice.
If I get something 1/10th as good I'll be happy.

Weather today still around 19C high during the day.
Some rain showers forecast for later -- water my plants for me, please!

My teens need to get their stretch on!!!

 

[aliceklar]

Enjoying following your grow! Awesome selections. Best of luck with finishing these in adverse and uncertain conditions.

 

[Eltitoguay]

Oh yeah, you're a full 10C colder than I am!
What's you basic latitude and altitude (if I may ask?)?
I'm a bit north of the Tropic of Cancer and about 300m up, with the mountains behind up to about 1,200m high, and about 5 km from the coast.

Your Thai A5 is lovely!
She'll be ready for tasting by Christmas, so nice.
If I get something 1/10th as good I'll be happy.

Weather today still around 19C high during the day.
Some rain showers forecast for later -- water my plants for me, please!

My teens need to get their stretch on!!!

...Well, then you have the same climate (itemperature in similar circumstances of altitude and proximity to the sea) as in a good part of my country with the same conditions...but in the range between 35° and 40°N (!?). How strange, if you are so far south... Look at the forecast for Cartagena (the Spanish one) located at 37'5°N...

El Tiempo: Cartagena (Murcia) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla - Agencia Estatal de Meteorología - AEMET. Gobierno de España

El Tiempo. Predicción para los municipios españoles: Cartagena (Murcia) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla

www.aemet.es

...And in latitudes more closer to yours, like 28.5°N of, for example, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, I think they are above (and taking into account that we are currently under a cold wave)...

El Tiempo: Santa Cruz de Tenerife (Santa Cruz de Tenerife) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla - Agencia Estatal de Meteorología - AEMET. Gobierno de España

El Tiempo. Predicción para los municipios españoles: Santa Cruz de Tenerife (Santa Cruz de Tenerife) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla

www.aemet.es

I am in the north face a mountain range in the interior (in the middle) of the Iberian Peninsula, at about 800 meters above sea level and about 400 km from the nearest coast, at about 39°N, so my climate is very continentalized.

 

[Eltitoguay]

Haha! Sánchez, lo mejor de Castilla y León!

Concretly, I am in one Autonomous Community bordering to the south with the Castile and Lion one, in the other or South Castile, aka the New Castile; the Qashtāl lamansha or Qishtalat lamansha of the islamic times: Castile-La Mancha (Castilla-La Mancha):

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Enjoying following your grow! Awesome selections. Best of luck with finishing these in adverse and uncertain conditions.

Thanks for stopping by!
Winter outdoor grows are always a bit crazy for me.
But stocks are low, so it must be done, hahahaha!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

...Well, then you have the same climate (itemperature in similar circumstances of altitude and proximity to the sea) as in a good part of my country with the same conditions...but in the range between 35° and 40°N (!?). How strange, if you are so far south... Look at the forecast for Cartagena (the Spanish one) located at 37'5°N...
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El Tiempo: Cartagena (Murcia) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla - Agencia Estatal de Meteorología - AEMET. Gobierno de España

El Tiempo. Predicción para los municipios españoles: Cartagena (Murcia) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla

www.aemet.es

...And in latitudes more closer to yours, like 28.5°N of, for example, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, I think they are above (and taking into account that we are currently under a cold wave)...
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El Tiempo: Santa Cruz de Tenerife (Santa Cruz de Tenerife) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla - Agencia Estatal de Meteorología - AEMET. Gobierno de España

El Tiempo. Predicción para los municipios españoles: Santa Cruz de Tenerife (Santa Cruz de Tenerife) - Predicción 7 días - Tabla

www.aemet.es

I am in the north face a mountain range in the interior (in the middle) of the Iberian Peninsula, at about 800 meters above sea level and about 400 km from the nearest coast, at about 39°N, so my climate is very continentalized.

I'm a long, long way from Spain here, other side of the world kind of.
Yeah, it's a bit of cold snap here right now, back to mid 20s C in a few days.
Think we're probably a lot more humid than Spain, too, meaning more clouds and rain, and less beautiful sunshine.

Concretly, I am in one Autonomous Community bordering to the south with the Castile and Lion one, in the other or South Castile, aka the New Castile; the Qashtāl lamansha or Qishtalat lamansha of the islamic times: Castile-La Mancha (Castilla-La Mancha):
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Cool! Autonomous communities, I like!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

About 60 mm = 2.5" of rain over the last 24 hrs.
Good.
My pots will be moist for maybe a week with that amount of rain.
And all that top dressing should be well worked into the medium, too.
Can wait for a suitable opportunity to visit the site again, with no pressure.
Good for the plants, good for me, good for security.

Guerilla grower 'til death!

 

[Hasch]

Go Maria !

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Go Maria !

All systems go today!

After that colder weather and rain passed, today is beautifully sunny and bright, at a high of about 21C.
Next seven to eight days are forecast for full or near-full sunshine, and up to 25C or 26C -- perfect!

Will see if I can visit the site tonight, though it's not urgent to water them -- no need.
Or maybe Saturday if I can't tonight.
But I would like to see if this is a good time to dust the SSSTN and NHxMM ladies with Mr ThaiFrican.

Just realized it's like almost two whole weeks since my last visit and photos!! Oh wow!
Good chance that if any stretch is on, it's already well underway at this point.
As for ideal pollination period, hhmm, maybe, maybe not, will have to take the pollen to site and see what I get there.

Oh yeah, probably time to cut down Mr ThaiFrican, and possibly collect more pollen from him.
Really, should just use his fresh pollen if I'm going to pollinate, right?!
And see if the two NHxMM boys are ready to drop yet. Probably should be starting or about to start.

Must remember to also take some little tags, to tag the pollinated branches (I do lowers).
Distinguish between the daddies -- ThaiFrican and NHxMM, on the mommies -- SSSTN and NHxMM.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 56 -- from sprouting!

14 days since last picture update and visit.
We had a cooler and wet period with some fairly good rain.
Then just recently some warmer weather and bright sunshine, with more to come.

I knew visiting the site would be a surprise, 14 days is a long time at the start of flowering.

From a distance, I saw that the new gate was not barred but just a wire twist holding it closed.
But when I got there I saw why -- the wind had ripped the gate of the hinges, and it was stuck in the ground.
Couldn't be opened at all, the gate was totally jammed in place.

Damn!

So, more adventure time for Maria, as I tried the long way around.
Down the road, and then up a steep bank, through the jungle with a wall of the gated houses on one side and almost a cliff on the other side!
Follow the wall around and I come out the other side of the abandoned houses.

Yes, I made it!


Building One:

This big pot with the ThaiFrican male and two tiny Thai Madness girls.

1 X ThaiFrican (reg) = Outback Haze 2 clone x (Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male) (10-12 weeks)
In a 20L pot:

Mr ThaiFrican is finished. His pollen mostly all released.
Handsome boy, and will make a nice father!

But now he is taking up space, so he has to go.
Thank you for your service!

2 X Thai Madness (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 2 clone x (NH21 x MML clone Reversed) (11-14 weeks?)
Sharing the 20L pot with ThaiFrican boy.

He was right above these two little girls.
Stunted because their original coco coir seedling pots really didn't allow the roots to grow out (as advertised.) My biggest problem and mistake in this whole grow, by far!

I won't be getting much bud at all from these two.
But they are now very full of ripening Thai Madness x ThaiFrican seeds.
The slightly larger girl has at least 20-30.

Calyxes are huge and bulging, with more smaller ones still developing.

And same with the smaller girl, though less of them.

A pity, but I still have 4 of these Thai Madness fem seeds from OJD (pack had 6, not 5).
And so having some crosses with her means I can grow the other ones fully sensimilla.

Building Two:

1 X Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 1 clone X SSSDH OJD cut Reversed (10-12 weeks?)
Now in a 20L pot.

I really was guessing at how much of a stretch this SSSTN fem would have.
I was correct, she's almost finished, with just a bit to go.
Total height about 40 cm = 16" -- a sativa bonsai microgrow.
The small coco coir seedling pot plus straight to 11.5/12.5 then 11/13 kept her size very small.
But now putting her in this bigger pot means she can flower properly and has plenty of space.

My re-pot plus top dressing has also solved her yellowing problem.
You can see the lower leaves are lighter but up top she is just fine.
Actually in this pic, on the lower right is her little sister, who is poking her head out and just about to flower.

A few more close ups on her flowers.

She still has some growth to put out, and these individual flower clusters will increase in size I'm sure.

Not sure if this is a SSSDH pheno or the Thai Neville Haze pheno, but I'm guessing the former.
Wouldn't mind if she went all crazy Thai Haze on me and grew another foot or two tall!

More pics below...

Fun, fun, fun!

Love and hugs,
~MJS

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 56 -- from sprouting! -- continued ...


Building Two:

1 X Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 1 clone X SSSDH OJD cut Reversed (10-12 weeks?)
Now in a 20L pot.

More about the SSSTN girls...

Her flowering isn't what I would call 'perfect' for pollination, but close enough as I'm not sure when I can visit again.
So, out comes the ThaiFrican pollen pouch.
I used the pollen I collected rather than collecting fresh, to reduce back and forth between the buildings where I may be a bit exposed.
Using a cotton bud as mentioned before.
(The black is a tag for ThaiFrican along with a black thread for tagging, brought another one and white thread for the NH x MM but no pollen on those males yet.)

Dab dab on these two lower flower clusters and add the black thread to mark them.
Think I hit about 10+ sets of pistils/calyxes on each side.
Have kept the pollen to use again if I can when more flowers showing.

Photos are from a back room where I can work.
Then water them and back into the sun.

Confession:
I watered with a Peter's 5-11-26 TE (Mg, Boron, etc.) mix, 2 g in 2 L, should be about 840 ppm.
I know it's not organic, but I brought it as they had shown they were hunger last time and I didn't know if the top dressing would kick in fast enough.
It did kick in, but I watered in the 5-11-26 anyway, as it's a good mix for flowering at this stage.
Water both the SSSTN and the NHxMM below.

4 X Grail Project NH18 x MM pheno 1 (reg) = (NH18 x MM pheno 1) x (NH21 x MML Male) (12-16 weeks)
In a 15L pot.

Also doing well, though less into flowering and less stretch than the larger SSSTN girl.
Top right is the most advanced female, far left also female, and from right is a topped male and in behind on the left also male.

The top right female is still small, little stretch.
And actually a bit bushy.

But she's definitely showing sativa traits with those thin leaves.
Though she is fairly dark in color now, compared to the other female and two males.
Her inter-node length is very short though.

Obviously the too-small coco coir seedling pots restricted her.
But I do wonder if this is a shorter pheno perhaps?

The second female is shorter and lighter in color.
Less advanced in flowering, so the stretch is yet to come for her...

Here, the bottom of the pic shows one of the males, topped.
Lighter green, typical NLD shape, and since I cut his main top barely any pollen sacks forming.

So I cut him down.
Have a photo, but have hit the limit for this post.
Just imagine him laying on the ground, poor boy.

His brother, though, I'm keeping for now.
As he's showing some pollen sacks and I'm prefer a slighting faster flowering father.

He gets to stay in the pots, behind his sister, not blocking the light.
It'll be a little while before he can be a daddy, so that should be okay.

Meanwhile, Mr ThaiFrican gets to pollinate the larger NHxMM female.
And the black thread tag is added.
Not a lot of calyxes / pistils right now, so that may be 10+ seeds max.
But can do another round a bit later if all goes well.

Things progressing quite nicely at this point.
The gate and site entrance is a bit of a hassle.
Going from the back means more likely people will see me.
'Why is that lady walking up into the jungle there? Weird!'
But also means that almost 0% chance somebody will stumble on to the plants.
Maintaining watering if it's dry is harder, though.
I don't want to try getting there at night thank you very much.

I had been praying for a protective barrier around the site.
I have it now! Almost too secure.
And that the plants would stay small.
I have that too. A little too small.
So more prayers needed to let me in the front gate again and have those sativa genetics kick in for a bit more height, haha!

Namo Shivaya!

Fun, fun, fun!

Love and hugs,
~MJS