Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[IgmarBudman]

Hey all, I have one more question, how long is the dry after the initial sweat, I know you said until the husk is dry to the touch, but is that like a couple hours or a couple days? I know everyones conditions are different just wanted a ball park idea.

 

[Tangwena]

Hey all, I have one more question, how long is the dry after the initial sweat, I know you said until the husk is dry to the touch, but is that like a couple hours or a couple days? I know everyones conditions are different just wanted a ball park idea.

As you said everyones conditions are different, if its very dry and low humidity it can take 3 or 4 hours.
Its no more than 24hrs though, you dont want the cob inside the maize skin to dry too much.

I know it sounds vague but its really easy to do and if its a bit too moist it doesn't matter, too wet is always better than too dry.
As long as its vacuum sealed there will be no problems.
Its something you will learn by trial and error. Some buds are less dense than others so dry quicker. Touching the maize skin and feeling if it has dried or not is the easiest way.

Just put the wrapped cobs somewhere dry a fruit drying device would be perfect but even an oven on the lowest setting will do it.

I just leave them in a room where the sun shines all day, out of the direct sun.
They are usually dry skinned in about 4 or 5 hours.
You just want to loose all the moisture that sweats out from the sweating in the bag but keep the moisture thats in the core of the cob.
If you dry the core as well the fermentation will stop when you seal them up to slow cure for 2 to 4 weeks at room temp (20 to 40c.)
I know it might sound vague but its one of those things that is done by touch and as you can see most people get good results.
Either way its hard to stuff up once you do a couple you will see its easy and you will get your own subtle changes that you make that make your cobs unique.

 

[iwade4fish]

my fish are from Lake Malawi!!!!

 

[Tangwena]

my fish are from Lake Malawi!!!!

How about showing some nice close ups of some cobs my friend.
I always managed to score some wicked cobs on the way to the lake to fish.

 

[Dog Star]

Maybe he just have Malawi cichlid fish in his fish tank and is far away from real Malawi lake...

that feel i have..

 

[Tangwena]

My mistake I took it to mean he had just got some fish from the lake and actually lived in Malawi that would be too much to ask for I suppose. It would be good to have an actual Malawi resident chime in.

 

[Tangwena]

Just by way of a trip as I am tripping on some very pleasant Mulanji cob at the mo ha ha. Some of my babies plus some of Uniborzums Chopper Read and Donald Mallards super Loas, contributions to world peace, my God theres some good ganja going around these days.

 

[Tangwena]

Wallys Zamal

Wallys Zamal

This is the difference a few months aging has on the resin first pic 1month old, second and third pics 4 months later Yum Yum trippy amber speed freak ha ha.

 

[MaryMaven]

I am picking them later and later each grow and my next I will let them go longer again.

Hi Tangwena!


Quick question about this for you....if you can pick them at what you think is the 'ideal time' what would you say your amber-to-cloudy trich ratio is? Or do you let them go all amber, and if so, then how long do you wait once they turn?


That plant I showed earlier is on day 98 of flower. She is taking her own sweet time! Today, for the first time, I spotted a couple of amber trichs on her when I scoped a little piece of bud.


I'm not in any hurry by any means; good things come to those who wait! But I don't want to let her go TOO far after patiently waiting so long. So I thought I better ask the expert as now that they are starting to turn, they may pick up speed and go pretty fast.


I Picked up some fresh sweet corn to cook in the next couple of days and save the husks for the cobbing!


Thanks for the input!
Peace
Maven

 

[Tangwena]

Good day my lady. I am no expert at growing pot ha ha. I like to read Terpenes grows he has a handle on indoor sativas.

But after following his grows and a bit of experimentation every plant has its own sweet spot. But for my tastes I like to pick after the 3rd flush of pistils has started to fade and the calyxes are all swollen.

I find after the third flush starts I stop feeding and only give water to fade the shade leaves and even the sugar leaves as well if I can.

I never look at the trichs at all just go by the red hairs and swollen calyx I try to get the plant before the last flush is completely red so I have old resin and grades of resin up to the new resin the more ages the better.

When you sweat cure the buds you can get clear resin to be amber very easily by varying the sweating time and wet curing time so the color of the resin is not so important as the maturity of the buds.

Different curing techniques can get the resin very dark or keep it anything from cloudy to slightly amber to red it depends on when you stop the cure by drying the cobs.
But starting with buds that are fully mature and already strong is the most important part.

Wheres the picture of the bud you refer too? I cant see it but then I'm and old bush pig and theres a lot that gets past me even when I am looking ha ha.
Great to see you got some stella genetics I have some Malawi x Ethiopia and Panama x Honduras from Ace going at the moment the PxH smell is fantastic rubbing the stems. I put 6 regular seeds out and got one male I am stoked and cant wait to see them start flowering.

I also cant wait to see what the cobs are like the Panama and Gt cobs are blissful tripped out extreme highs.
Oh I forgot I also have a fem Panama and a fem GT and 2 Kalichina x Zamaldelicas fems just for a giggle ha ha

Bring on Christmas although the sativas will probably only be ready in the new year.
You will be the first female cob maker as far as I know cant wait, you will probably show us all up the girls always seem to have more intuition in things like this as its an art there is no doubt.

 

[MaryMaven]

Hello Tangwena!


The picture was back on post 1807, but it is a pretty crappy picture so really doesn't do much good in telling you anything about her. I'll try to get a picture this afternoon in natural light, that will be much better.


I get the gist of what you are saying, so thank you! I'll just wait for the fade now.


When I transplanted right before flower, I guess I mixed my pot mix too hot for the likes of her because I haven't fed her in nearly a MONTH and she still hasn't really started to fade! Good old chicken poop! ha! And she's just now slowing down on making sugar leaves. But the calyxes are just starting to swell a bit, so there is no real rush. She has two magnificent top buds forming. They are a bit airy, but that's to be expected. They are probably close to 18 inches now, and then smaller buds all over her. She has a LOT of orange hairs on her - all over, not just near the light - but she has from the beginning so I haven't gone by those too much


Like I said before, she was a real surprise and I have NO idea what her genes hold...she has a very citrusy/piney scent to her when I rub her leaves. Very fresh and 'sweet' - she'll either be balls-to-the-wall or a bust. Can't wait to find out. But the important thing is she will be great cobbing experience for me. I'll practice on her before going for it with the good stuff from Ace.


On the showing you up cobbing...well, would it give you an indication of my 'talents' if I tell you that my Mama and Grandma used to finish my home ec projects for me so I'd pass the class because I was so sadly pitiful when it came to 'crafty' stuff? hahahaha!


But I'm a pretty damn fine gardener - our veggie garden is about a half acre in size and I spend most of my summer days there - so there is that. Now I just have to apply those talents to the great Sativas when the time comes.


Hey, did you ever get such GOOD seed genetics you were actually a little afraid to start them for fear of messing them up? I've never felt like that before, but now with these Ace seeds.....heh.


Thanks again for your patience and your knowledge! Have a great week!


Peace
Maven

 

[MaryMaven]

Here, these are a LITTLE better...it was lights out so was trying to be quick...not quite as long on top as I thought she was, but still gonna be enough to get a decent cob

Lowers look like this...

She's ready for her close-up, Mr. DeMille...

One thing I noticed when scoping her, it's like Dave said in his Afropips thread...the trichs have almost no 'stems' to them. They are like fat little mushroom heads.

 

[Tangwena]

If you can grow vedgies you can grow pot and Aces gear looks after itself dont worry those babies are just busting to grow.
The one you have sounds real nice also all my favorite smells looking forward to seeing a pic.
Today I am going to chew on some good ace but not sure what yet its 5.45am here and I usually wait until at least 9.30 before take off ha ha isn't retirement great.
People say to me dont you get bored? I say get yourself a hobby. I find it hard to find time to get bored I feel like I am 16 again and the folks are not home ha ha
Just saw the pics its hard to say isn't it, it looks like it wants to keep growing but if it doesn't throw out any more pistils its probably nearly done.
Hell what do I know like I said I am no grower it will make a nice little cob when you do cut her though.

 

[MaryMaven]

If you can grow vedgies you can grow pot and Aces gear looks after itself dont worry those babies are just busting to grow.
The one you have sounds real nice also all my favorite smells looking forward to seeing a pic.
Today I am going to chew on some good ace but not sure what yet its 5.45am here and I usually wait until at least 9.30 before take off ha ha isn't retirement great.
People say to me dont you get bored? I say get yourself a hobby. I find it hard to find time to get bored I feel like I am 16 again and the folks are not home ha ha
Just saw the pics its hard to say isn't it, it looks like it wants to keep growing but if it doesn't throw out any more pistils its probably nearly done.
Hell what do I know like I said I am no grower it will make a nice little cob when you do cut her though.

I work harder now that I am retired than I ever did when I was 'working' ha!! I don't have TIME to get bored! But I play a lot harder now too, so it all evens out!


I'll let you see when she comes down and I tie her up!


Peace
Maven

 

[HaHaHashish]

There's been lots of warning about mold occurring during the cobbing process, but out of hundreds of pages in this thread has anyone had moldy cobs?

 

[Tangwena]

You only get mold if you leave a moist cob un sealed, once it reaches the maturity you desire dry it and its the same as any other dry bud.
Yes i have had mold when I left a moist cob unsealed for a week I had to bin it.

 

[Dave Coulier]

There's been lots of warning about mold occurring during the cobbing process, but out of hundreds of pages in this thread has anyone had moldy cobs?

As Tang said, moldy cobs come from user error. Even if it does occur, and you catch it early, you can simply scrape it off, reseal it and GTG. Ive done this multiple times before because who doesn't like to repeat the same mistake?? lol

 

[Tangwena]

As Tang said, moldy cobs come from user error. Even if it does occur, and you catch it early, you can simply scrape it off, reseal it and GTG. Ive done this multiple times before because who doesn't like to repeat the same mistake?? lol

You crack me up brother we are all high after all ha ha.

 

[HaHaHashish]

I now tend to cob up the ganja much more damper than I previously did and probably wetter than recommended.

As I now no longer fear mold happening and I find with very densely packed cobs this works best for the fermentation process...the end result looks closer to hash than bud is closer to black than dark brown/light brown usually pictured here on this thread.

I only dry for a few days for airy buds and a day or two more for denser buds. The cobs I make are sweated for two days, unwrapped and dried for half a day I test for for dampness with my teeth...then re-wrapped in baking/parchment paper and string, then wrapped very tightly in Cling or Saran wrap (so there's no need to vacuum seal) and leave them for a month, smoke test it then re-wrap it and smoke it when the older ones have gone up in smoke. There's lots of ways to skin a cat and that's how I do it and it works for me.

One thing is for sure, big thanks to Tangwena for showing the rest of the world how chamba is cobbed.

 

[HaHaHashish]

and although the very densely formed cobs are heavy and dark (but also moist like old style tobacco that was densely packed in tins and required rubbing to "open" up), when I cut off thin slices and rub this with my fingers or use a grinder, it crumbles perfectly for jay rolling or piping.