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Malawi Style Cob Curing.

IgmarBudman

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I can only tell you what I do, others may do it differently.
I do not put any water in the yogurt maker just the vacuum sealed cob. You can put water in it will not harm anything.

After sweating for 24 to 48hrs (the longer the darker the result)
I remove the cob and air dry with the maize skin intact.
Once the maize skin is dry to the touch (it wont take long)
I re seal the still wrapped in maize skin cob and let it cure for 2 weeks at room temp vacuum sealed.

You can leave it like that for up to a month. Then remove the cob from the vacuum bag and dry to a smoke able but still slightly moist state.
It then needs to be aged for another month to 3 months sealed in the vacuum bag at room temp. At this stage you can remove the maize skin or keep it on it makes no difference.

For long term storage you can fully dry or leave it slightly moist.
As long as it is vacuum bagged and sealed its fine.
Fully dried you dont need to vacuum seal it but I do anyway until I am sure it will not mold.

This is for cobs wrapped in maize for compressed bricks or loose buds its the same except of course its not wrapped in maize leaf.
Good luck and let us know how you go. Pics would be great as well.

Tangwena - Thanks so much for the clarification, I had seen someone mention water in the yogurt maker, I'd much rather not put the water in it. I think I'm clear on everything else. I will post my results as I go!
 

Chevy cHaze

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Tangwena, your thread got me so curious that I took some Jack Herer and some Sour Blueberry and made them into cobs today.
I don't know how much i put in there, I don't even have scale hahaha. A handful each i would say...
took quite a bit of persuasion to get all the weed wrapped into the slightly smallish maize leaf.

but it worked...


I think the amount of green that went into each cob is roughly the same, but the Jack Herer is more compact and thicker than the longer and thinner Sour Blueberry

Sealed up and now sweating for 24 h (or a bit less because they're not that big ?) at 30C in my propagator.


Look forward to this experience and thanks everyone for the inspiration !

CC
 

Tangwena

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Tangwena, your thread got me so curious that I took some Jack Herer and some Sour Blueberry and made them into cobs today.
I don't know how much i put in there, I don't even have scale hahaha. A handful each i would say...
took quite a bit of persuasion to get all the weed wrapped into the slightly smallish maize leaf.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=71351&pictureid=1779343View Image
but it worked...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=71351&pictureid=1779344View Image
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=71351&pictureid=1779345View Image
I think the amount of green that went into each cob is roughly the same, but the Jack Herer is more compact and thicker than the longer and thinner Sour Blueberry
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=71351&pictureid=1779346View Image
Sealed up and now sweating for 24 h (or a bit less because they're not that big ?) at 30C in my propagator.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=71351&pictureid=1779347View Image

Look forward to this experience and thanks everyone for the inspiration !

CC
Awesome you are on the way to something beautiful my friend good on you for giving it a go.
Others have posted and I believe it to be true. Sativa dominant strains get the most out of this cure and something magic happens to the high.
The JH should be very interesting the blueberry probably less so.
But a good sativa or sativa dom plant gets very exciting when chewed. You will get right inside your head and its a wonderful experience.
The best highs I have had cobbed and chewed are from Golden Tiger, Zamaldelica and Panama they are all crazy trippy highs chewed.
Every plant has something to give once cobbed but racy sativas change into extraordinarily freaky highs once aged and chewed the Indica doms just never have the high to begin with so just get stonier.
 

Chevy cHaze

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Awesome you are on the way to something beautiful my friend good on you for giving it a go.
Others have posted and I believe it to be true. Sativa dominant strains get the most out of this cure and something magic happens to the high.
The JH should be very interesting the blueberry probably less so.
But a good sativa or sativa dom plant gets very exciting when chewed. You will get right inside your head and its a wonderful experience.
The best highs I have had cobbed and chewed are from Golden Tiger, Zamaldelica and Panama they are all crazy trippy highs chewed.
Every plant has something to give once cobbed but racy sativas change into extraordinarily freaky highs once aged and chewed the Indica doms just never have the high to begin with so just get stonier.


Yes, that's what I took away form reading through the whole thread!
The JH, even though a heavy hybrid, should really be interesting. And to be honest, I was not expecting too much from the Sour Blueberry, even though a sativa dom hybrid. But now, after roughly two weeks of cure, it already exhibits some really nice traits. Due to the short cure, the high is still a bit, well, let's call it "unstructured" and maybe even raw, but after 15min or so the unrest fades and delivers you to a very nice and blissful mental state... There's also no body stone really, and no "hangover" if you have to work the next day, like today on monday. I actually went to work quite inspired somehow...
What I'm saying is, I guess, I'm not giving up on this one yet ;-)

Do you think I should sweat for more than 24h ? My propagator only gets to 30C...

All the best,

CC
 

Tangwena

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Yes, that's what I took away form reading through the whole thread!
The JH, even though a heavy hybrid, should really be interesting. And to be honest, I was not expecting too much from the Sour Blueberry, even though a sativa dom hybrid. But now, after roughly two weeks of cure, it already exhibits some really nice traits. Due to the short cure, the high is still a bit, well, let's call it "unstructured" and maybe even raw, but after 15min or so the unrest fades and delivers you to a very nice and blissful mental state... There's also no body stone really, and no "hangover" if you have to work the next day, like today on monday. I actually went to work quite inspired somehow...
What I'm saying is, I guess, I'm not giving up on this one yet ;-)

Do you think I should sweat for more than 24h ? My propagator only gets to 30C...

All the best,

CC
Hi my friend it sounds very nice of course do not give up it will change as it ages.
I would double the sweat times at 30c next time. Long slow low temp sweats are equally as good they just need longer.

Do not misinterpret my statement about indicas my friend they can still be good.
A good friend on another forum loves the Gorrila Glue he made into dark black slabs and says its a lot less couch lock than the same buds just jar cured and loves the effect.

Its just my preference for sativas that colors my choices. I have cobs of hybrids that are very nice too. Everyone has different tastes in highs. The way you describe it it sounds very pleasant.
 

MaryMaven

Member
Greetings Tangwena, et al!


Tangwena, I want to first thank you for this wonderful thread! I stumbled across it accidently last month while looking for something completely different, and what a treasure it has been! :) Better than a good mystery novel! I couldn't 'put it down' until I reached the very end! :D


I have a plant that in a couple of weeks or so will be ready to try this method of curing on, and I can hardly wait! She is a sativa, but I am not sure past that WHAT she is!


Back story: Last year I was gifted with some very decent quality seeds by a friend. They were a from some great hybrids - mainly good quality indica/sativa crosses. :)


I grew these seeds out and had beautiful plants, but alas, right towards the end, one of them hermied on me and I didn't notice it in time and the females in the grow all got fertilized and produced seeds. (he was a sneaky little fellow!)


SO, this year, I thought, what the hell, give it a go, and I planted a dozen or so of the resulting seeds from that mess. I ended up with 8 females, and almost every one of them expressing a different phenotype! It's just amazing, and fun, how different they all look/smell/have grown coming from essentially the same bunch of seeds. :D ONE of them is obviously VERY sativa dominant! (let's see if I can do a picture right on here!)


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I hung the key up there for size reference. That is just the top bit of the plant, the 2 main buds...she has many more on side branches, and she is about 5 feet tall. As big as those are, she still has a LONG way to go...she is just now starting to really put on trichs. I expect her to bulk up even more over the coming weeks. She was flipped into flower on 6/20.


I have NO idea what she will turn out to be, how potent, etc. But I do think that she will be perfect to experiment with where this method is concerned. Can't hurt, might help, right? And if nothing else, I'll learn how to cure her with this method and be ready to use it properly in the future on others, right? That's the main thing; learning to get this cure right.


So, after that long winded bit, my question to you is, if you had to chose between Malawi or Golden Tiger, which would you choose? I'll be purchasing seeds soon, and I can get the Zamaldelica as my free seeds at ACE for my order. So I just need to know between those two.


Oh, and as an aside, if any of you in this thread can recommend FROM EXPERIENCE, which of Ace's strains are excellent for severe back pain, I would be more than grateful. My daughter suffers from extremely debilitating degenerative disc disease, and I am trying to find something I can grow to help her. She's been given 'Alien Dutchess' at the dispensary, but seeds for that are hard to find. I've researched and picked a couple out, but I would much rather have a recommendation from someone who has been there/done that if possible.


Again, thank you so very much for this - just can't wait to try it!
Peace
Maven
 

MaryMaven

Member
Oh, and I did want to add - for that recommendation for my daughter, I am looking for 2 actually - one for daytime - low/mid THC and high CBD with a clear headed high so she can function, and then one with more of a stoner/couchlock high that will be better for sleeping. :)


Thank you again for any help - I only ask here because all of you in this thread seem so experienced/knowledgeable, I'm sorry if you feel I should be in another forum to ask - I apologize in advance for the thread drift. I just know that I read several of you at rollitup as well, and you definitely seem to know what you are talking about. :)
 

Tangwena

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Greetings Tangwena, et al!


Tangwena, I want to first thank you for this wonderful thread! I stumbled across it accidently last month while looking for something completely different, and what a treasure it has been! :) Better than a good mystery novel! I couldn't 'put it down' until I reached the very end! :D


I have a plant that in a couple of weeks or so will be ready to try this method of curing on, and I can hardly wait! She is a sativa, but I am not sure past that WHAT she is!


Back story: Last year I was gifted with some very decent quality seeds by a friend. They were a from some great hybrids - mainly good quality indica/sativa crosses. :)


I grew these seeds out and had beautiful plants, but alas, right towards the end, one of them hermied on me and I didn't notice it in time and the females in the grow all got fertilized and produced seeds. (he was a sneaky little fellow!)


SO, this year, I thought, what the hell, give it a go, and I planted a dozen or so of the resulting seeds from that mess. I ended up with 8 females, and almost every one of them expressing a different phenotype! It's just amazing, and fun, how different they all look/smell/have grown coming from essentially the same bunch of seeds. :D ONE of them is obviously VERY sativa dominant! (let's see if I can do a picture right on here!)


View Image


I hung the key up there for size reference. That is just the top bit of the plant, the 2 main buds...she has many more on side branches, and she is about 5 feet tall. As big as those are, she still has a LONG way to go...she is just now starting to really put on trichs. I expect her to bulk up even more over the coming weeks. She was flipped into flower on 6/20.


I have NO idea what she will turn out to be, how potent, etc. But I do think that she will be perfect to experiment with where this method is concerned. Can't hurt, might help, right? And if nothing else, I'll learn how to cure her with this method and be ready to use it properly in the future on others, right? That's the main thing; learning to get this cure right.


So, after that long winded bit, my question to you is, if you had to chose between Malawi or Golden Tiger, which would you choose? I'll be purchasing seeds soon, and I can get the Zamaldelica as my free seeds at ACE for my order. So I just need to know between those two.


Oh, and as an aside, if any of you in this thread can recommend FROM EXPERIENCE, which of Ace's strains are excellent for severe back pain, I would be more than grateful. My daughter suffers from extremely debilitating degenerative disc disease, and I am trying to find something I can grow to help her. She's been given 'Alien Dutchess' at the dispensary, but seeds for that are hard to find. I've researched and picked a couple out, but I would much rather have a recommendation from someone who has been there/done that if possible.


Again, thank you so very much for this - just can't wait to try it!
Peace
Maven
Hi Mary Maven thank you for the kind words.
I never throw out hermies but then I grow for myself so a few seeds never hurt. Sometimes they can produce gems and you seem to have one.

I chew the cobs and swallow the powder so I can only tell you from that perspective.
I would recommend Golden Tiger from my personal experience its very up lifting and euphoric in all its phenos cured this way and chewed. I suffer from back pain ect but it does not help with that.
It is my absolute fav from Ace and the best high I have come across.

Zamaldelica on the other hand makes all my pain disappear for the whole day when taken in the morning and wears off by 6pm and I sleep like a baby.
But only if taken around 9am if taken later it will keep me awake.
I dont think you will need anything for sleeping as by the time it wears off I am worn out mentally and just want to sleep anyway.

I have to warn you this is chewed and swallowed fermented/cobbed not dried green buds.

When its properly fermented and aged a month or two chewed cob effects last all day 8 to 10hrs on average and you dont need much either. I regularly use doses as low as 0.25 to 0.35g any more and it gets overwhelming to the point that you cant drive or do much more than just writhe around on the floor in ecstacy lost inside your head.
Which is great as long as thats what you wanted in the first place.
Not great if you had planned on being somewhere or doing something important.

I wish you the best of luck and feel free to ask anything any time during your experiment. I think this will be just what you are looking for.
 

MaryMaven

Member
:) Tangwena, thank you so much for your reply.


When this one comes down and I attempt the cob, I will report back...and perhaps seek a bit of advice. :)


Yes, I realize that you chew, not smoke - I'm sorry for the loss of your lung. That fact makes your input that much more valuable/invaluable to me. As you know, from suffering from back pain yourself, coughing is about the worst thing you can do with severe back pain. Your experience and your reports give me great hope to develop something usable medically for my daughter. And your dosing experience has been a treasure. As well as the others here. Some of you chew a little more, some a little less, but you all have reported the way that it affects you in such detail, along with the dosing you have each used. It is just amazing, and a treasure-trove of information.


Golden Tiger it will be, and the Zamaldelica.


Again, thank you so much again for your time and your input. :)


A thank you as well to all the other contributors to this thread. Your detailed, insightful telling of your experiences both creating the cobs as well as using them is really appreciated!


Peace
Maven
 

Samuel Caldwell

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MaryMaven - email dubi through the Ace website and he/they will get back to you with their recommendations. The Ace forum here on icmag is also very active and dubi chimes in regularly. I'm in the middle of my first Ace grow, fwiw, so I'm a bit biased but so far everything is going great.
 

MaryMaven

Member
Thank you for your reply, Samuel! :) I appreciate the suggestion.


Good luck on your grow!! I hope it turns out "ACES UP" :D


Peace
Maven
 

antheis

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i just pulled a cob of cjsb out of the crockpot after 26 hours. couldn't get a good smell off the cobb itself, as i could only smell the corn leaf.
the bag however was another story.
the first wiff i detected a light, but familiar, scent.
the second, i got it: root beer, or sasparilla.
the third pull from the bag and i was able to discern a sharp note that cleared the sinuses. like eucalyptus and anise. followed by the sweet root beer note and followed up with a nice sugarcane scent.
i didn't open her up and she's still drying. waiting a month is going to be difficult on this one.
 

Tangwena

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i just pulled a cob of cjsb out of the crockpot after 26 hours. couldn't get a good smell off the cobb itself, as i could only smell the corn leaf.
the bag however was another story.
the first wiff i detected a light, but familiar, scent.
the second, i got it: root beer, or sasparilla.
the third pull from the bag and i was able to discern a sharp note that cleared the sinuses. like eucalyptus and anise. followed by the sweet root beer note and followed up with a nice sugarcane scent.
i didn't open her up and she's still drying. waiting a month is going to be difficult on this one.
Nicely done just dry untill the skin feels dry to the touch then vac seal it to cure.
You should get a nice compact hashy textured cob of fine chewing or smoking heaven.
Find something else to do while it matures its worth the wait.
 
Hi my friend I have had 3 phenos of Golden Tiger all very good.

Yes each grow is better than the last as I learn how best to grow her and when is the best time to harvest.

been enjoying your thread, tangwena. i have nicknamed this thread as "the thread that never gets old!" thanks for all your generosity.

would you mind sharing a few thoughts about your growing experiences with the different golden tiger pheno's? what specifically do you look for before harvest with these different pheno's when using your harvest for making cobs?

i am familiar with two of the pheno's, the malawi pheno and the thai pheno. the third pheno you speak of eludes me, but perhaps i'll meet her one day.

i figured this might be alright to ask since you are so fond of the golden tiger and it is not my intent to lead us off subject... too much anyway. :hijacked: lol!
 

Tangwena

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The first 3 pics are from 2013 GT the buds were tight balls and dried with a wild honey smell very lysergic effects chewed.
The second 2 pics are 2015 GT very lemon smell mixed with honey a bit stonier than the other but still outstanding chewed.
 

Tangwena

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Last pics 2015 GT very airy buds strong lemon smell, very energetic like a shot of coke instant high. Chewed this tastes very lemon cobbed, it is really motivating and is the only cob I have that can mix well with others.
If you have some Panama in the morning and a dreamy day long trip.
This chewed in the evening adds to the dreamy feeling and then takes over, no other two cobs I have are able to do this.
Most just sedate you and nail you to floor when mixed.

I am picking them later and later each grow and my next I will let them go longer again. I get most of my growing tips from this forum there are some awesome growers in this Ace forum "Terpene" is my favorite grower.
I just love curing the buds if I could get well grown buds to cure I wouldn't bother growing at all.


 
very good info Tangwena! i've been reading a bit in the Ace forum so i'll look for some posts/threads of Terpene over there. as evidenced by those pics your plants look very well cared for. appreciate your efforts, brother.
 
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