Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[Tangwena]

I agree that the high is of much higher quality, especially the second part which is now a lot more distinguishable. After the first part of the high with the big rush, heart pounding and body pump for about an hour, there comes the second part much calmer but making everything look beautiful and amazing, even the simplest things around. For example the noises in the neighborhood, they are all in the background, good noises, bad noises, i can hear them all, and even ponder on them. The bad noises are not irritating at all, and the birds chirping is like the sounds of Heaven.
This second part of the high last about 3-4 hours. Before when I smoked regular bud, I would only notice the first part with the big rush and when that was over I thought the high was over too. But now after testing the cob, I can experience a full blown much emphasized second part of the high lasting much longer, where the world is like seen through a magical glass, same reality but with that "WOW", is this tree alive or what..?? That second part is what I'm after.

That is exactly how I would describe how I feel. I have never thought of it like that but its a perfect description to me. I am so happy for you that it has obviously worked so well.
If you get the cure right on the right sort of weed I have found the change quite remarkable.

I feel I should mention something that has happened to me personally recently in the name of honesty.

I have been sending small samples 0.35g to a few respected friends to get their take on my cobs. This dose I find quite strong and very pleasant in its effects.
I used this dose as I dont like giving people strong doses that just knock them out to try and make a point.
i have on several occasions now been told it didn't effect them in the same way it effected me.
This is chewed so be warned it seems to have a greater effect in some people (me for instance) than others. I dont doubt they are telling the truth, I am after all quite old and battered mentally.

I just thought I would add this caveat to my post. Does not work for all people as it works for me. i may have been over selling the effects.

Now I feel better. It is a valid cure and I find it very effective but its not guaranteed it will be the same for you

Tangwena

 

[seeded]

Half a gram gets me to my happy place. 0.3g is really nice and feels cleaner and more functional which is great for working on but to get that great euphoria and feeling of having massively heightened senses where even a mere walk around the block turns into an almost magical journey through the urban jungle I need about double that. At a gram or two I tend to get overcome with the sensation of having eaten too much until the high really becomes too much and doesn't allow any kind of prolonged focused thoughts forcing me to ride it out but it's actually really nice for killing a day and not at all bad once the high peaks as you know it's smooth sailing from there. I can't handle nature at those higher doses though as the intensity of it all overcomes me making me feel like that kid who always got too high and wants to go home. At 0.5-1g though the world really does get that wow factor to it which is something I can't properly describe with words alone. To me it's just something you've got to experience for yourself to have any real grasp of it.

I've eaten 4-5g a few of times and never again. It's not only a waste but it's always filled me with introspective terror, a complete inability to function as a basic human and then laid me down so it can start getting serious. Oh and the intensity from the high has never let me sleep on it either. I've just laid there a complete mess for hours and then been so shaken up by it afterwards that I haven't wanted to sleep until I'd dealt with all the mental bullshit from piecing myself back together. It's not a strain thing for me either. Every time at that kind of dose the intensity of the high takes over and then it's just a different version of the same kind of events that always leave a wreck like having a bad trip on shrooms. It's not as bad as a shroom trip but the aftermath feels pretty similar all the same so absolutely never again will I consume that much. I'd recommend giving it a go because we could all use a rattling like that at least once in our lives but if you want a real cob recommendation take a scalding hot shower as you're peaking from 1-2g of your finest sativa. For me at least every last drop feels like a drop of pleasure hitting my skin and the high draws out the sensation long enough for another drop to hit the same spot before it's over. It forces me to completely focus on my body where the water touches and since it's hitting everywhere constantly there's no room left for mental games like introspective terror and if I do manage to think all it really amounts to is holy crap I'm high and this feels amazing before being wholly consumed by the shower again. Thats a 10/10 experience. The 4-5g dose on the other hand gets a 2/10 with a cautionary recommendation from me.

 

[Tangwena]

Wow seeded I dont think I would dare to go that high your a real space cadet for doing that much ha ha.
I had 0.5g of the new GT today and got really written off for about 4hrs after that its just a cool strong speed trip.
You describe the feeling really well, nice way with words my friend. I am going to have to try a higher dose now that shower sounds like just the thing I love those sensations of needing something to focus on, you know you are high when you get there.

 

[RRResin]

Tang wrote Just make sure you chew the hell out of it the high starts from the chewing and then gets reinforced an hour later from the dust you swallowed.

Have you tried eating the cob with some type of fat?

 

[RRResin]

Agronom I agree that the high is of much higher quality

I agree too, as Tang wrote, the quality and depth of the high is just better, more satisfying (and this is coming from a former cob skeptic. lol) . But do keep in mind that it is important when comparing the high from cobs and the non-cob buds that they weight the same. A compacted cob is as heavy and dense as hash (well, mine are) and the same amount of un-cobbed bud (from the same tree) would make a joint that is 4 (or 5 times?) bigger/fatter.

I dry sift all the trim, pop corn buds and even some buds...but I think that cobbing untrimmed bud (with all the large, non-resiny leaves removed) actually goes further and gives more bang for your buck that smoking trimmed bud and dry sifted trim...it's also easier on the throat.

Regarding the size/thickness of the cob, contrary to what was posted in this thread, I find cobs that are tightly wound so the end result sounds like iron wood when it's dropped on a hard surface still have the cob high, smell and enhancement..I guess it's all about the fermentation which doesn't matter whether it's a 40 gram cob or a 5 or 10 gram cob.

 

[RRResin]

I find that cobs are stronger than the same amount of non-cobbed bud, but the high from dry sift made from trim and small buds (that were sifted with maximum yield in mind) is stronger than the cobs..but I also find the high from cob has a longer duration that the sift....anyone else notice this?

 

[RRResin]

I wish I had the ability to edit posts......maybe I should type once and edit twice before posting!

 

[mushulatubbee]

Idk man! Id have to take the "pepsi challenge" yep!

 

[Agronom]

Tangwena, it makes sense that different people would experience different effects from the high, and I believe that chewing the cob also gives different effects, although I have not chewed any yet, but I will. These are my very first cobs of making and trying, so I have a lot in front of me to explore. Also I have noticed (nothing new that) plants I grew from the same strain can be quite different in appearance, colors and the high. Right now I'm trying to stop smoking for at least a few days to get rid of tolerance, so I have a better test on the chew..

 

[Agronom]

Seeded, that is a very good description you have. The part "introspective terror" rung a bell with me, more like self judgment, going through all domains of my life looking for the mistakes and shortcomings I made.. But that happens only when I overdo it. So you're right, overdosing does not make it better, that's why I want a high with better quality rather than a high with wiping out power..

 

[Agronom]

RRResin, yes it's true that the cobs are heavy and dense, that's why Tangwena warns about the dozing. I was trying to compare the high from smoking a cob to the usual high I get from regularly jar cured buds (not fermented like the cob). But I am very new to all this, so I'm just beginning to taste this new to me way of fermenting. I really like the cobs and how they smell.. Yes, I noticed the high from the cob lasts a lot longer. I do try to accomplish one single high per day, but it's difficult, I always want more..

 

[Agronom]

Tangwena, I'm not any young either. But I do hope that the cobs bring you some sweet relief from the mental stress.

 

[ULMW]

Ethiopian Cob

Ethiopian Cob

Fresh from the recent harvest Tangwena! Ethiopian Sativa Cob.
Also posted some brown bag sweated Ethiopian buds that went into jars for curing today. Lovely black current aromas from the buds and a fermented citrus aroma plus thectypical oily insencyvwood African Earthtones too. It is a sense stimultator and always triggers reminiscing pleasant vibes. Peace be with you.
p.s. Will get to do a smoke report in July.

 

[Tangwena]

Fresh from the recent harvest Tangwena! Ethiopian Sativa Cob.
Also posted some brown bag sweated Ethiopian buds that went into jars for curing today. Lovely black current aromas from the buds and a fermented citrus aroma plus thectypical oily insencyvwood African Earthtones too. It is a sense stimultator and always triggers reminiscing pleasant vibes. Peace be with you.
p.s. Will get to do a smoke report in July.

Those brown bag sweated buds look amazing they look very well cured already nice job my friend they will smoke smooth and mild.
That cob after a bit of aging will be a real Ethiopian smoke as will the buds. This will take you back to the mother land.
When I see those golden colors I know the herb will be smooth as silk I wish I was still able to smoke it the taste through a joint before lighting was unreal.
Much respect my friend you will enjoy that herb I am sure.
Tangwena

 

[Tangwena]

Tangwena, I'm not any young either. But I do hope that the cobs bring you some sweet relief from the mental stress.

Oh yes anytime I start to feel the weight of the world getting to me I know I can get high enough for long enough to erase this world and re boot my mind and soul.
Yesterday I did just that and feel fresh and clean again.
When you have this medicine you can dial I trip up that changes your world for the better. Its just a case of a larger dose my friend.
Tangwena

 

[Tangwena]

Seeded, that is a very good description you have. The part "introspective terror" rung a bell with me, more like self judgment, going through all domains of my life looking for the mistakes and shortcomings I made.. But that happens only when I overdo it. So you're right, overdosing does not make it better, that's why I want a high with better quality rather than a high with wiping out power..

You are spot on I like to experience a strong trip from a strain and then dial it back with smaller doses to experience the more subtle effects that get overwhelmed in the bigger doses.
But saying that its also nice to get out of your head now and then with music up loud, lie on the yoga mat and stretch and close my eyes and just let go for 5 or 10 mins.
I like this escape like Opium then come back and realize you are at a much higher level than before the mind tripping. Thats what cleans my mind of negative thoughts.
You get a clarity thats lets you sought out all the rubbish and keep the good.
Tangwena

 

[Tangwena]

Tang wrote Just make sure you chew the hell out of it the high starts from the chewing and then gets reinforced an hour later from the dust you swallowed.

Have you tried eating the cob with some type of fat?

Hi my friend good to see you are enjoying your new direction with the herb you grow.
I have tried butter, coconut butter, cookies you name it. They all seem to have something missing in the high compared to just chewing the cured bud.
Now I only take the whole plant which is why I chew the cob/buds.
I find chewing the whole plant not an extract give me a much more enhanced high.
If I just swallow the bud a lot is destroyed in the stomach, if I chew the hell out of it I get two distinct hits one from the chewing and another later from the swallowed bud.
Its easy to see this in action chew the hell out the cob but try not to swallow it. You will get a shorter more racy high.
Next time swallow the bud powder after chewing it you will notice a second big hit that comes on 2 to 3 hours into the trip.
If I need a quick high that leaves me more able to function, say a family meal where I need to be present mentally I just chew the bud but dont swallow it.
I still get the rush but not the bigger stony hit 2 to 3 hours later, so its a shorter high but still nice and intense.
Tangwena

 

[Chevy cHaze]

Hi Tangwena and all who have contributed. Big up to you.
This sounds very interesting and I think I'll try this out rather sooner than later with some more "regular" bud, probably a Jack Herer or SOur Blueberry I have growing atm. to see what it does will be interesting!
Does anybody have more information on the chemical processes involved when curing the bud in a cob and as described ?
Would't there be anaerobic bacteria action going on ? What if the intense high is caused by some byproducts that are formed during the fermentation ?

All the best and thanks again for all the wisdom here
CC

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Tangwena and all who have contributed. Big up to you.
This sounds very interesting and I think I'll try this out rather sooner than later with some more "regular" bud, probably a Jack Herer or SOur Blueberry I have growing atm. to see what it does will be interesting!
Does anybody have more information on the chemical processes involved when curing the bud in a cob and as described ?
Would't there be anaerobic bacteria action going on ? What if the intense high is caused by some byproducts that are formed during the fermentation ?

All the best and thanks again for all the wisdom here
CC

I think its just anaerobic action and the mild heating.
It def changes the color of the resin, smell and taste.
With the maturing of the resin and I suspect terps you get a different effect to the high as you would expect from any change to those things.
I dont think it is any more than that.
The plant material decomposes and that produces a milder smoke just like curing tobacco if you smoked dried green tobacco leaves they would taste and effect you different to the cured leaves.

Give it a shot it will not destroy your buds only improve them.

 

[RRResin]

As most of use now know (thanks Sam Skunkman) that terpenes enhance, modulate and affect the high, also, pure THC does not get you as high as THC and terpenes. I think the reason cobs are different is that the terpenes in standard dry & cure techniques gas off (evaporate) to a greater extent than compared to cobbed buds as the terpenes are trapped in due to compression and wrapping. I also think that the Co2 produced inside the cob affects the high too.

What is not known now is why the high from cobs changes from month one to month three of storage.