Levitationofme
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What temps are the buds reaching in the crock pot on high?
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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
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What temps are the buds reaching in the crock pot on high?
Just wanted to stop in and say thank you again!
Just opened up my first cobs today after 3-4 month cure, worked perfectly, and honestly some of the smoothest best smoke I've ever tried!
I just used some dry small nug untrimmed kush, and the taste and high is amazing! Can't wait to try some really top shelf stuff! Fully converted, now gotta eat some, lol... At first I was hesitant because it does smell a little dank and tobacco like, but the flavour and high are just so great...
Anyway, just another 25 year daily smoker saying thanks, you are a scholar and a gentleman and you changed my life.cheers.
Just opened up my first cobs today after 3-4 month cure, worked perfectly, and honestly some of the smoothest best smoke I've ever tried!
I just used some dry small nug untrimmed kush, and the taste and high is amazing! Can't wait to try some really top shelf stuff! Fully converted, now gotta eat some, lol... At first I was hesitant because it does smell a little dank and tobacco like, but the flavour and high are just so great...
Anyway, just another 25 year daily smoker saying thanks, you are a scholar and a gentleman and you changed my life.cheers.
Riddleme
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I did not check it, others reported 172 degrees
Levitationofme
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Sounds like a cool method. The buds look fantastic! Really nice indeed.
All these thoughts below are unproven, un sanctioned by PITA, and are generally PCKxKali China inspired, deviated by a low blood caffeine ratio and the need to get off my ass and go to work, so anything else is a great way to sandbag my day.
In my mind, and it is twisted, what makes Cobb special, is that when cured long term under vacuum after a sweat
the chain of reactions that keep the resins maturing is not effected by oxidation which I think is what happens when you let your trichomes go too amber. They are degrading due to oxidation and Light. We all know light degrades our weed..
So like a fine wine it takes its time becoming the golden trichomes Tang writes about. I think similar things happen with the terpenes. They cant vaporize easily under an atmosphere of pressure, and they also will not degrade due to oxygen or light inside a cobb. The extra pressure will completely change the temps that the volatile terpenes vaporize at. Like a mini pressure cooker in principal. water boils at 250 f under 1.5 bars of pressure.
It would not surprise me if the terpenes also continue to mature and change over time becoming even more complex. Similar to sugar becoming a complex caramel by adding heat over time. It also wouldn't surprise me if they were just broken down by time and I was completely wrong.
The bud is full of the compounds that will over time be metabolized into thc. This can also be done quickly with heat as that revves up the whole process. The long cure of the cobb may allow all those reactions to complete over time completely decarboxylating all the possible thc. I believe also the cooked chlorophylls slowly break down over time enhancing the Smoooth.
All these thoughts below are unproven, un sanctioned by PITA, and are generally PCKxKali China inspired, deviated by a low blood caffeine ratio and the need to get off my ass and go to work, so anything else is a great way to sandbag my day.
In my mind, and it is twisted, what makes Cobb special, is that when cured long term under vacuum after a sweat
the chain of reactions that keep the resins maturing is not effected by oxidation which I think is what happens when you let your trichomes go too amber. They are degrading due to oxidation and Light. We all know light degrades our weed..
So like a fine wine it takes its time becoming the golden trichomes Tang writes about. I think similar things happen with the terpenes. They cant vaporize easily under an atmosphere of pressure, and they also will not degrade due to oxygen or light inside a cobb. The extra pressure will completely change the temps that the volatile terpenes vaporize at. Like a mini pressure cooker in principal. water boils at 250 f under 1.5 bars of pressure.
It would not surprise me if the terpenes also continue to mature and change over time becoming even more complex. Similar to sugar becoming a complex caramel by adding heat over time. It also wouldn't surprise me if they were just broken down by time and I was completely wrong.
The bud is full of the compounds that will over time be metabolized into thc. This can also be done quickly with heat as that revves up the whole process. The long cure of the cobb may allow all those reactions to complete over time completely decarboxylating all the possible thc. I believe also the cooked chlorophylls slowly break down over time enhancing the Smoooth.
seeded
Active member
I vaped some cobbed buds yesterday after escaping from the relatives and it's very smooth. I had no coughing at all even when I took in a monster hit though I do have to admit the taste was worse than the normal gear as it had taken on a more cannabutter/tobacco/leather kind of taste whereas the jar cured buds are now all tasting of tea tree oil and menthol.
The high was interesting. Normally my SSH hits you a little before you can empty your lungs and then every 5 minutes or so for half an hour a wave would creep up leaving you unaware of how high you actually are until you try to do something. It's deceptively strong, very focused in the head and the high lasts around 90 minutes but lingers for a couple of hours as you come down which is slightly in the body and not exactly unpleasant though you do feel like redosing to get high again.
The cobbed stuff didn't hit at all for 10 minutes so I just kept hitting it until it was spent. I was starting to think I should have just eaten it and then BAM, cricket bat to the head. I just sat here thinking wtf as what can be best described as brain freeze set in. It was completely different from the up and edgy high I normally get and as time went out the window it just kept on kicking. Wave after wave of short circuiting euphoria kept smashing until the high peaked in my head and then it settled into my body taking the euphoria with it making me go from being really high and spaced out to extremely stoned. In the end it had me passing out on the lounge so I had to drag myself to bed to sleep it off. I forgot to check the time so I'm not sure of the duration but it certainly felt like it lasted at least a few hours.
It was sort of like it brought out the best and worst parts of the high and felt so extremely strong due to my stupidity of mistaking smoothness for a lack of effectiveness. I have to admit I much prefer the taste of jar cured buds but I think if I cook them lower and take the SSH a couple of weeks early to stop a lot of the indica like effects from being present the cob would really bring out the best qualities of the SSH high making the taste not all that important.
Whatever happens with my experimentation there's no doubt in my mind that cobbing is another mandatory metric to use when judging a plant. It's going to massively draw out the elimination process in my garden (thanks for that tangwena
) but now that I know about cobbing and the effect it can have I wouldn't have it any other way.
The high was interesting. Normally my SSH hits you a little before you can empty your lungs and then every 5 minutes or so for half an hour a wave would creep up leaving you unaware of how high you actually are until you try to do something. It's deceptively strong, very focused in the head and the high lasts around 90 minutes but lingers for a couple of hours as you come down which is slightly in the body and not exactly unpleasant though you do feel like redosing to get high again.
The cobbed stuff didn't hit at all for 10 minutes so I just kept hitting it until it was spent. I was starting to think I should have just eaten it and then BAM, cricket bat to the head. I just sat here thinking wtf as what can be best described as brain freeze set in. It was completely different from the up and edgy high I normally get and as time went out the window it just kept on kicking. Wave after wave of short circuiting euphoria kept smashing until the high peaked in my head and then it settled into my body taking the euphoria with it making me go from being really high and spaced out to extremely stoned. In the end it had me passing out on the lounge so I had to drag myself to bed to sleep it off. I forgot to check the time so I'm not sure of the duration but it certainly felt like it lasted at least a few hours.
It was sort of like it brought out the best and worst parts of the high and felt so extremely strong due to my stupidity of mistaking smoothness for a lack of effectiveness. I have to admit I much prefer the taste of jar cured buds but I think if I cook them lower and take the SSH a couple of weeks early to stop a lot of the indica like effects from being present the cob would really bring out the best qualities of the SSH high making the taste not all that important.
Whatever happens with my experimentation there's no doubt in my mind that cobbing is another mandatory metric to use when judging a plant. It's going to massively draw out the elimination process in my garden (thanks for that tangwena
) but now that I know about cobbing and the effect it can have I wouldn't have it any other way.
You know exactly what you are looking for and how to get it out. Nothing will stop you know you are indeed the right sort of person to make cobs, I see you surprising yourself more and more as you experiment.I vaped some cobbed buds yesterday after escaping from the relatives and it's very smooth. I had no coughing at all even when I took in a monster hit though I do have to admit the taste was worse than the normal gear as it had taken on a more cannabutter/tobacco/leather kind of taste whereas the jar cured buds are now all tasting of tea tree oil and menthol.
The high was interesting. Normally my SSH hits you a little before you can empty your lungs and then every 5 minutes or so for half an hour a wave would creep up leaving you unaware of how high you actually are until you try to do something. It's deceptively strong, very focused in the head and the high lasts around 90 minutes but lingers for a couple of hours as you come down which is slightly in the body and not exactly unpleasant though you do feel like redosing to get high again.
The cobbed stuff didn't hit at all for 10 minutes so I just kept hitting it until it was spent. I was starting to think I should have just eaten it and then BAM, cricket bat to the head. I just sat here thinking wtf as what can be best described as brain freeze set in. It was completely different from the up and edgy high I normally get and as time went out the window it just kept on kicking. Wave after wave of short circuiting euphoria kept smashing until the high peaked in my head and then it settled into my body taking the euphoria with it making me go from being really high and spaced out to extremely stoned. In the end it had me passing out on the lounge so I had to drag myself to bed to sleep it off. I forgot to check the time so I'm not sure of the duration but it certainly felt like it lasted at least a few hours.
It was sort of like it brought out the best and worst parts of the high and felt so extremely strong due to my stupidity of mistaking smoothness for a lack of effectiveness. I have to admit I much prefer the taste of jar cured buds but I think if I cook them lower and take the SSH a couple of weeks early to stop a lot of the indica like effects from being present the cob would really bring out the best qualities of the SSH high making the taste not all that important.
Whatever happens with my experimentation there's no doubt in my mind that cobbing is another mandatory metric to use when judging a plant. It's going to massively draw out the elimination process in my garden (thanks for that tangwena
tangwena
You just made my day my friend, its makes me very happy when someone like yourself feels they now have a key. As indeed you do use it wisely.
Tangwena
BudzMalone
New member
Hey guys I stumbled upon something interesting not sure of the source or how true but interesting none the less.
A 2009 study found that combining tobacco and cannabis created more available THC. This means that you’ll feel the effects of cannabis very quickly, and more of it will be available for your body to use.
The study examined the THC content in smoke captured from a pure cannabis joint and a spliff containing only 25% cannabis. The results are surprising. THC in the smoke from the pure cannabis joint measured around 32.70 milligrams per gram. And the spliff? THC increased to 58.90 milligrams per gram. This lead the study authors to conclude that tobacco seemed to increase the vaporization efficiency of THC by as much as 45%.
This lead the study authors to conclude that tobacco seemed to increase the vaporization efficiency of THC by as much as 45%.
http://herb.co/2016/06/24/smoke-weed-and-tobacco/
A 2009 study found that combining tobacco and cannabis created more available THC. This means that you’ll feel the effects of cannabis very quickly, and more of it will be available for your body to use.
The study examined the THC content in smoke captured from a pure cannabis joint and a spliff containing only 25% cannabis. The results are surprising. THC in the smoke from the pure cannabis joint measured around 32.70 milligrams per gram. And the spliff? THC increased to 58.90 milligrams per gram. This lead the study authors to conclude that tobacco seemed to increase the vaporization efficiency of THC by as much as 45%.
This lead the study authors to conclude that tobacco seemed to increase the vaporization efficiency of THC by as much as 45%.
http://herb.co/2016/06/24/smoke-weed-and-tobacco/
BudzMalone
New member
Yeah sorry for the off topic.. Just thought it was interesting... I'm pretty stoned..
I'm 2ish weeks from harvest and yesterday pulled a little popcorn bud off.. let it dry over night real fast and smoked it when I got up.. I wasn't expecting this high.. Lol
I can't wait for harvest as I'll be cobbling together a cob of my own.
Peace
I'm 2ish weeks from harvest and yesterday pulled a little popcorn bud off.. let it dry over night real fast and smoked it when I got up.. I wasn't expecting this high.. Lol
I can't wait for harvest as I'll be cobbling together a cob of my own.
Peace
Commercial tobacco, wrappers as well as loose leaf,
contains hundreds of added chemical compounds designed
to attach to particular neuron receptors for precise nicotine
delivery to your brain.
Cannabis is just along for the ride.
Its disgusting.
Anyone who I smoke with knows this and the unknowing sods
who do suggest it get a swift kick in the balls for their efforts.
lol
contains hundreds of added chemical compounds designed
to attach to particular neuron receptors for precise nicotine
delivery to your brain.
Cannabis is just along for the ride.
Its disgusting.
Anyone who I smoke with knows this and the unknowing sods
who do suggest it get a swift kick in the balls for their efforts.
lol
ReikoX
Knight of the BlackSvn
While we are off topic...I was watching Bong Appétit on Vice and they were rolling cannabis cigars very similar to cobs. In fact, it was so similar I am thinking my next cob will have a couple of these cigars to do it RIGHT.
Tangwena, didn't you mention you could do this with fan leaves and they would look similar to tobacco leaves? That was the part that I didn't want to smoke, the green leaf wrapper. Also, it's not possible to cob cure buds that are already cured in the jar right?
I guess that wasn't too off topic. Wish I had a sativa harvest in my near future
last night i trimmed up some blue vixen i had drying. put it all into a large cob, 2oz dry by my guess, made of sheets of paper instead of corn(out of season 
)
i didn't vacuum seal the cob for sweating.
i did put it in a crock pot with water to sweat.
i was shooting for 40c but it was over 55c when i got up this morning.
the only thing i think this changes is that it will need to sweat for less time.
i was going to do 3 days but will probably do 2 now.
sorry, no pictures. but i'll show off the finished cob.
i should say that most of the trichs were clear as i took this early. they should all be nice and caramel by the time this is said and done.
)i didn't vacuum seal the cob for sweating.
i did put it in a crock pot with water to sweat.
i was shooting for 40c but it was over 55c when i got up this morning.
the only thing i think this changes is that it will need to sweat for less time.
i was going to do 3 days but will probably do 2 now.
sorry, no pictures. but i'll show off the finished cob.
i should say that most of the trichs were clear as i took this early. they should all be nice and caramel by the time this is said and done.
Levitationofme
Well-known member
Banana Leaf perhaps?
ok i opened my cob and took pictures. <gasp!>
when i first opened it, it smelled so wonderfully stinky. heavy heavy mango scent. this particular blue vixen smells like mangoes when growing and again after a 3+ month cure as laid out by simon in his thread.
but this mango was more rotten and pickled. more sweet and yet sharp sour notes.
a few hours ago i set the cob on the water heater, and now the paper is mostly dry and the cob is slightly spongy and smells heavily of astringent lemon cleaner.
when i first opened it, it smelled so wonderfully stinky. heavy heavy mango scent. this particular blue vixen smells like mangoes when growing and again after a 3+ month cure as laid out by simon in his thread.
but this mango was more rotten and pickled. more sweet and yet sharp sour notes.
a few hours ago i set the cob on the water heater, and now the paper is mostly dry and the cob is slightly spongy and smells heavily of astringent lemon cleaner.
Then you don't need to vacuum it, right?
That's what Tang says. He also says that not vacuuming might lead to mold issues and I concur. Lost the ones with too much moisture to mold. A week was stretching it, a few days seemed to work all right. I'm still a novice myself and am looking for the best way to do it. The stuff ferments in 48 hours or even less if you get it right but I have no idea as to what duration works best..Heat is your friend if you want to avoid a long fermenting period.
