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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
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seeded
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You've got me feeling like a kid in a candy store saying stuff like that. It's like there's no end to the goodness that comes from cobbing your herb
Hi there, my super silver has was an f2 of mr nice's grown from seed.
Vapedoutdude
New member
Think we still need testing done cause just seeing mold on green bud is hard how on earth or you able to tell if any is developing with a browner squished material I like the sound of the stone but can't help but cringe at the pictures.
wow. the similarity deepens. Mine was an S1 I made from a single SSH mom I was gifted. The original came from a friends grow, who got the seeds personally from Shanti—he actually flew to Switzerland to meet him, and get advice on starting a dispensary. He has closed up shop now, but in its heyday he had half a dozen Mr Nice strains from the man himself.
My S1s were half sativa types and half skunk types and all were outstanding looking plants. I cobbed up some of each plant and made bubble from the rest.
If you go back to page 90 Madjag had a cob lab tested for mold ect. Check it out it may put your mind at rest, if not dont do it and stay in the dark ages, nothing to loose.
CosmicCharlie
Member
Vacuum seal it.
You want as little air in there as possible (it's impossible to get all the air out though)
Def vacuumed my friend the only time I keep them in un vacuumed bags is when I am using them and they have been dried, throughout this process they are either wet or moist and of course mold loves both conditions especially if its warm as well.
I can honestly say I have never had mold when using this method.
The only people I have ever heard get mold lost the vacuum through poor equipment or improper sealing.
I just heard of a guy who had a bag puff up in the crock pot from the moisture inside the bag and the heat from the crock pot producing vapor. The bag burst and got saturated as he had it in water.
Its quite normal for the bags to blow up like a ballon when heated, but the seal is still good and they return to normal once removed from the heat.
I do not put water in the crock pot, it gives better heat transfer for sure, but the warm air inside is enough for me. Both methods water and dry work well.
I prefer to use a yogurt maker it takes longer but is gentler heat.
They only cost about $60 on ebay and are well worth it.
The crock pot is better for large amounts though.
As long as you have them vacuum sealed you can open and check and then re vacuum its all good, but keep them sealed at all times unless drying them to consume then its just the same as for jar cured buds once dried they are bullet proof.
Tangwena
beefalo bill
Member
If the bags "blow up" when heated, could you then vacuum it again and pull a harder vac for long term storage? Also, does anyone know of a way to rig an A/C Refrigerant Vac to a sealer? With a good pump and heavy duty bags, it might be possible to skip the binding phase of cob prep.
You dont need such a deep vacuum like on a/c units a domestic food saver machine is all you need.
You dont need to bind the buds up, I also do loose buds the act of vacuuming them compresses them but they expand once out of the bag. for some reason they just cure a lot better bound up.
I always have half an ounce of loose buds in with the cobs inthe same bag, so I can see the change in color as they sweat and know when to remove them based on the color change.
The bags dont expand using a yogurt maker as its a gentle 40c heat the crock pots are faster but they use 55 to 65c thats why the bags expand due to the water vapor inside the bag as it is heated lower heat less expansion.
Crock pots take 12 to 24hrs to ferment cobs while yogurt makers take 3 to 4 days to do the same job.
Tangwena
seeded
Active member
I'm currently 5 hours into the high from the cob I double cooked and it's got a very different buzz to the 12 hour stuff. It's way more laid back and mellow but still focused in the upper body in particular behind the eyes which are very heavy but in no danger of closing. It's like it lost more than half of the racy excitedness that the other one had with a much more manageable and sedative high that is looking like it lasts roughly the same duration as the 12 hour stuff. The taste was spicier and hashier and the texture not as rubbery and it dissolved into much much faster too.
I would definitely do a longer cook for medicinal reasons but high wise the 12 hour stuff is where it's at. I can't afford a yoghurt maker until after Christmas but my heat mat goes up to 40c so I'll try to cook a cob on it over the next few days. I think Tangwena has it right with cooking them low and slow to get the most out of them so with the difference I've already experienced I have to give it a go.
I would definitely do a longer cook for medicinal reasons but high wise the 12 hour stuff is where it's at. I can't afford a yoghurt maker until after Christmas but my heat mat goes up to 40c so I'll try to cook a cob on it over the next few days. I think Tangwena has it right with cooking them low and slow to get the most out of them so with the difference I've already experienced I have to give it a go.
My friend you are indeed a brother traveler you are spot on in your findings. I have found I can get 3 distinctly different highs from sweating the same buds for different times.
Well done I cant believe your so tuned in.
The other cure would be the equivilent of say 3 to 6 hours sweat and is the racy trippy speed freak cure, try it its mad.
While your in a receptive mood, try varying the drying prior to the cooking, it will give you a whole different set of results from the same plant.
When you have dried the cobs try grinding one up and do a qwiso oil extraction, if you think you have had good oil before, this stuff will reset your barometer just as the cobs have.
Respect to you my friend people like you are rare, you will be a different and better person from this day forward.
I give you the title of cob master in the making I dont think it will take you long ha ha.
Tangwena
seeded
Active member
Wow, thanks for the vote of confidence 
While I'm sure that the cob size makes a difference would there be much of an issue in miniaturizing them down to 1-2g each? I need to bulk test the variables but if they can't be made that small without suffering it'll take a lifetime instead of decades to work through all the ideas racing through my head.
While I'm sure that the cob size makes a difference would there be much of an issue in miniaturizing them down to 1-2g each? I need to bulk test the variables but if they can't be made that small without suffering it'll take a lifetime instead of decades to work through all the ideas racing through my head.
Levitationofme
Well-known member
My first Malawi
partially dried fresh bud ( partially smoked as well)
2 days sweat at 130 degrees f
Just a few buds. Small harvest this plant. It looks so
nice I want to be able to smoke it w friends.
partially dried fresh bud ( partially smoked as well)
2 days sweat at 130 degrees f
Just a few buds. Small harvest this plant. It looks so
nice I want to be able to smoke it w friends.
Levitationofme
Well-known member
the rest of photo session.
Yes you can do smaller sample cobs about as thin as a pencil works fine, just allow less time sweating as they turn faster.Wow, thanks for the vote of confidence
While I'm sure that the cob size makes a difference would there be much of an issue in miniaturizing them down to 1-2g each? I need to bulk test the variables but if they can't be made that small without suffering it'll take a lifetime instead of decades to work through all the ideas racing through my head.
Also the dilemma I face every harvest is whats the best cure for this type of bud. I have a loose group of friends that practice this art and share the results, it makes it a lot faster, otherwise it takes a lifetime.
It has taken most of mine working alone for most of it. Now with people like yourself sharing their results and keeping records of how they went about it, we are making good results a lot faster and its pretty much full proof.
But still a lot of fine tuning to do.
Tangwena
That will be lethal if you seal it up and leave it to age for a month, it will be ok now but in a month of cold curing you will not believe the difference it will make to the high. patience my friend.
Tangwena
Levitationofme
Well-known member
Thanks Tangwena,
I definitely did not screw the pooch on these buds.
I am actually very patient. A month, nope it will be June when I meet a few of my old collage buddies. Then they will see some light.
A bit of a bet going on as to who can bring the best buds... something tells me we might not get past mine.
I definitely did not screw the pooch on these buds.
I am actually very patient. A month, nope it will be June when I meet a few of my old collage buddies. Then they will see some light.
A bit of a bet going on as to who can bring the best buds... something tells me we might not get past mine.
I would like to be a fly on the wall at that meeting ha haThanks Tangwena,
I definitely did not screw the pooch on these buds.
I am actually very patient. A month, nope it will be June when I meet a few of my old collage buddies. Then they will see some light.
A bit of a bet going on as to who can bring the best buds... something tells me we might not get past mine.
Everyone who has tried my Ace Malawi cob (which is not my best) is changed forever, not a single person has been able to keep it together 30 mins after smoking it they are plastered and just a dribbling mess. It never fails ha ha
Tangwena
