Luigi Mangione

[Cannavore]

An actual free market = Mutual and consensual, unskewed and NOT ALIGNED WITH government. It's a market for peaceful trade. "Regulated" by consumer feedback and free choice. Without barriers to entry which crony capitalist like.
Actual free markets are forcibly prevented today. Actual free markets are not "crony capitalism".

Let's say we magically transition to your ideal free market economy. Free from regulation, government, and barriers to entry as you say.... Elon Musk has $400 billion dollars, Jeff Bezos has $200 billion dollars. Do you actually think you can compete with these people? Lmfao they will drop their prices lower than yours until you're completely bankrupt and they absorb your company and eventually become the monopolists they are today. Nothing would change.

Laissez-faire capitalism has led to the "crony capitalist" system you hate.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

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[Captain Red Eye]

Let's say we magically transition to your ideal free market economy. Free from regulation, government, and barriers to entry as you say.... Elon Musk has $400 billion dollars, Jeff Bezos has $200 billion dollars. Do you actually think you can compete with these people? Lmfao they will drop their prices lower than yours until you're completely bankrupt and they absorb your company and eventually become the monopolists they are today. Nothing would change.

Laissez-faire capitalism has led to the "crony capitalist" system you hate.

There won't be a transition to a large scale free market as long as government has involvement in markets which is a point you seem to have missed. In an actual free market economy there never would have been a Federal Reserve to enable inflation (a hidden tax) fund war ,fund prohibition, subsidies for the already rich etc.

In an actual free market, so called U.S. dollars (federal reserve debt notes) wouldn't exist. Since they didn't arise from free market demand, they arose from fuckery backed by government force.

At least some of the money Elon and Bezos made isn't because of "free market", it's because there wasn't a free market. That money was made via unjust means. Elon Musk received government subsidies didn't he? In an actual free market that wouldn't have happened.

Also if Elon or Bezos ever make some money by satisfying customers and not thru crony capitaliism, good for them or anyone else that benefits by using just means.

Wealth until knowing the context of how it was made can't be determined to be bad or good.

You should have told your silly virtue signaling friends not to buy Elon's subsidized Teslas. Damn liberals crapping in their own pants and then complaining about the stink!

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Je, je, je ...

...Well, in order to be able to give "dissertations" on economics, at a minimum you should know that you are missing nothing less than "the other 50% of the regulatory core of the (Neo) Total Free Market": THE OFFER aka SUPPLY...
Because what you cite as ""Regulated" by consumer feedback and free choice", is called THE DEMAND.
And they are both what regulate your capitalist utopia, find out how the system of your dreams works.

And I think my Capitalist Supersense tells me that the performance and added value of trying to clarify your Monopoly Economics nonsense is not worth the effort of labor and logistics: So goodbye.

Would you be able to dry your eyes had I posted a supply and demand curve?

I didn't want to overwhelm Cannavore with too much info. His belly is already full from all the candy he steals from "rich oligarchs.

Good bye? No waaaaaiiit.

 

[Cannavore]

There won't be a transition to a large scale free market as long as government has involvement in markets which is a point you seem to have missed. In an actual free market economy there never would have been a Federal Reserve to enable inflation (a hidden tax) fund war ,fund prohibition, subsidies for the already rich etc.

In an actual free market, so called U.S. dollars (federal reserve debt notes) wouldn't exist. Since they didn't arise from free market demand, they arose from fuckery backed by government force.

At least some of the money Elon and Bezos made isn't because of "free market", it's because there wasn't a free market. That money was made via unjust means. Elon Musk received government subsidies didn't he? In an actual free market that wouldn't have happened.

Also if Elon or Bezos ever make some money by satisfying customers and not thru crony capitaliism, good for them or anyone else that benefits by using just means.

Wealth until knowing the context of how it was made can't be determined to be bad or good.

You should have told your silly virtue signaling friends not to buy Elon's subsidized Teslas. Damn liberals crapping in their own pants and then complaining about the stink!

Are you brain damaged????

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Are you brain damaged????

Not yet, Just got home from serving old people holiday dinner.

Gonna spin one up in a minute and get almost as brain damaged as you are.

Thanks for asking!

 

[Cannavore]

Let's say we magically transition to your ideal free market economy. Free from regulation, government, and barriers to entry as you say.... Elon Musk has $400 billion dollars, Jeff Bezos has $200 billion dollars. Do you actually think you can compete with these people? Lmfao they will drop their prices lower than yours until you're completely bankrupt and they absorb your company and eventually become the monopolists they are today. Nothing would change.

Laissez-faire capitalism has led to the "crony capitalist" system you hate.

This is a pretty simple hypothetical question to answer. If we deregulate more than we already have and went full free market, the rich will control even more than they already do, especially if you're also an anarcho capitalist who wants to abolish the government, which is likely considering all your rhetoric about coercion and consent and govt threat of violence, etc... all of this will lead to neofeudalism. This can't work without massive wealth confiscation and even then it wouldn't work.

 

[Microbeman]

@Cannavore - stop all your virtue signalling and go feed some poor old folks some holiday dinner.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

This is a pretty simple hypothetical question to answer. If we deregulate more than we already have and went full free market, the rich will control even more than they already do, especially if you're also an anarcho capitalist who wants to abolish the government, which is likely considering all your rhetoric about coercion and consent and govt threat of violence, etc... all of this will lead to neofeudalism. This can't work without massive wealth confiscation and even then it wouldn't work.

I am a peaceful Voluntaryist Panarchist.
I'm interested in increasing peaceful freedom of choice and teaching people to stop using offensive force as a means to their ends. It's wrong and you know it is.

If you want to be a socialist, commie, etc. go do it. Just don't force it on other people that prefer something else. Voluntaryist Panarchists won't stop you if you drop the force part.
That is not only possible, it's actual justice and foments equality of self-determination.


I understand and agree with your point that we aren't starting at the beginning, we are mired in the midst of what is. That does compund things. See? Even you can make a decent point now and then.

If you don't deregulate, Elon and Bezos and their ilk will STILL have enough money to buy the government that you want to run healthcare won't they ?


Wealth confiscation ? After you've killed all the evil billionaires you'd still like to confiscate the money of unwilling people to fund your "healthcare' ideas though right?

 

[Captain Red Eye]

@Cannavore - stop all your virtue signalling and go feed some poor old folks some holiday dinner.

Good one! you got me,

Now it's okay for you to use a gun to force people to fund your ideas. Lol.

 

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[Captain Red Eye]

 

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[armedoldhippy]

You keep dancing around your hypotheticals.

well, reality is so damn scary, and you have to pay taxes there...

Are you brain damaged????

let's put this to a vote. i'll start with YES, YES HE IS.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

well, reality is so damn scary, and you have to pay taxes there...

let's put this to a vote. i'll start with YES, YES HE IS.

.Paid plenty of taxes before I retired. Still pay plenty in oxymoronic "property taxes" , sales taxes etc. .

Voting on brain damage? That's how it is eh?

 

[armedoldhippy]

LOL! nothing wrong with my butt. are you going to obsess about it like you did my balls? is there something you'd like to share with the rest of us ?

 

[Captain Red Eye]

LOL! nothing wrong with my butt. are you going to obsess about it like you did my balls? is there something you'd like to share with the rest of us ?

Yes sir. I'd like to share I think your butt might be kinda droopy and all pimply in your whitey tighties.

 

[armedoldhippy]

you've been wrong about almost everything else so far, and your streak is intact...

 

[buzzmobile]

your streak is intact...

in your whitey tighties.

That's what happens without a bidet.