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Lowryders Outdoors, Sweden 2012
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Mr. Tasuri
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Hi from Finland Hortic!
Your grow looks fine and I love that spot
Nice view of nordic hills.
We have a similar project going on here (lr2) and we are trying to keep them growing buds as long as possible. One allready had mold too much, so we cut it down to save others.
How tall is your plants? Ours are around 70cm.
We have been using batguano and I feel it works well..
All the best for your grow bro!
Your grow looks fine and I love that spot
Nice view of nordic hills.We have a similar project going on here (lr2) and we are trying to keep them growing buds as long as possible. One allready had mold too much, so we cut it down to save others.
How tall is your plants? Ours are around 70cm.
We have been using batguano and I feel it works well..
All the best for your grow bro!
Hi, my Scandinavian friend.
Nice looking plants, man! They look fat and short, and have that lovely yellow color to remind us that they want to get smoked soon.
I haven't measured them, but I'd say they're between 70-120 cm high. Most of them are 90-100 or thereabout.
How long have you used bat guano? During the entire life of the plants?
All the best right back at ya!
I went to the spot today and snapped a few pictures before the phone died (again). We've had some rain, so that helped alleviate my fears about them drying out. It's been very cold at nights though, which concerns me a bit. The morning fog is a bitch too, but I don't think they will have time to develop mold before I harvest them in a week.
Two of the plants show classic signs of major temperature drops. These are also the two shortest plants, btw.
And a little overview.
On a side note, I hate choppers. There was one flying around all day today right around the spot. It wasn't a police chopper, but as a cannabis user, I don't like choppers on principle.
You know what even principles get me scared sometimes.
You know sometimes it just feels like you gotta keep moving!
Gereeeaaaat Grow,, am jealous of that salad it looks like you have going. Reminds me of the table tops in Golden.
You know sometimes it just feels like you gotta keep moving!
Gereeeaaaat Grow,, am jealous of that salad it looks like you have going. Reminds me of the table tops in Golden.
I forgot to mention something. I harvested the top half of two plants to see how much of a yield I can expect. I have trimmed it and started the drying process. The results are pretty depressing. I haven't weighed it or anything, but it's just a bunch of really tiny-ass buds, maybe 2-3g dry weight. So about 3g/plant if those two plants are any indication. That's pretty fucked, so I've thought things through. I'm gonna let at least half of them go until mid-September, to see if the bud production picks up. Right now I'm miles away from 10g/plant, which was my goal. Fucking summer.
I love that purple Lr, I haven't ever seen one before.
About your small yields, I have some advice for you if you don't mind. If I was growing in an area like you do I would have done many things different.
First of all I wouldn't use feminized seeds, because they are just too expensive and you get the same amount of weed back you invest your money in. I would go with some homemade seeds. Try to make some over the winter for next season or try to get some.
The second thing would be that you probably planted too early otherwise they wouldn't have such a long veg time. The problem about them having such a long time of veg is that you get bigger plants that don't yield more.
Also a important thing not to do especially in your climate is to plant them in small pots or in pots at all, because the soil in the pots cools down faster than it would if they were in ground. If I plant my plants in soil in mid May they have constant 15° in the root zone, because of this the plants can handle lower temperatures, even close to 0° or a bit lower. So next time plant them directly in your mound of soil, they will handle the low temps better. Autoflowers don't like transplant in the first place.
When preparing your soil make a taller mound because this way it stays warm longer and holds more water, which is important because you grow on stones, so the only water they get is from the soil you brought there. When preparing your mound add organic fertilizer. It will hold the soil warmer and the plants will get the nutes they need.
And the last thing is the veg fertilizer you bought. If you would have one that has N>PK it wouldn't be best, but it would be ok, but a N-0-0 is a no go. I also wouldn't use liquid ferts.
Hope that helps you when planing your next grow.
About your small yields, I have some advice for you if you don't mind. If I was growing in an area like you do I would have done many things different.
First of all I wouldn't use feminized seeds, because they are just too expensive and you get the same amount of weed back you invest your money in. I would go with some homemade seeds. Try to make some over the winter for next season or try to get some.
The second thing would be that you probably planted too early otherwise they wouldn't have such a long veg time. The problem about them having such a long time of veg is that you get bigger plants that don't yield more.
Also a important thing not to do especially in your climate is to plant them in small pots or in pots at all, because the soil in the pots cools down faster than it would if they were in ground. If I plant my plants in soil in mid May they have constant 15° in the root zone, because of this the plants can handle lower temperatures, even close to 0° or a bit lower. So next time plant them directly in your mound of soil, they will handle the low temps better. Autoflowers don't like transplant in the first place.
When preparing your soil make a taller mound because this way it stays warm longer and holds more water, which is important because you grow on stones, so the only water they get is from the soil you brought there. When preparing your mound add organic fertilizer. It will hold the soil warmer and the plants will get the nutes they need.
And the last thing is the veg fertilizer you bought. If you would have one that has N>PK it wouldn't be best, but it would be ok, but a N-0-0 is a no go. I also wouldn't use liquid ferts.
Hope that helps you when planing your next grow.
Thank you for your thoughtful response.
A lot of good advice that I'll keep in mind next year. I was planning on doing a seed run next year, unfortunately I can't create my own seeds during the winter. On a side note; I didn't pay that much for the feminized seeds, they cost the same as regular seeds.
Next year I will definately put them directly in the soil instead of transplanting them. That definately shocked them a lot. I must point out that the Lowryder strain I have is pretty different than Joint Ryders original LR #1, and most people seem to experience a slightly longer veg time than with the regular Lowryder. The strain is probably not as stabilized as a lot of other autoflowering strains, so next year I'll add more strains so I can find one that works nicely in this climate. The summer sucked this year, next year I think I can plant around the same time with better results.
You mention that you wouldn't use liquid fertilizers. Why is that?
Because liquid fertilizer gets washed out of soil with rain and the plants stay without it and because it rained you are not going to water them with new ferts. This way deficiencies can show. With dry organic fertilizer you can fertilize once or twice and it holds for the whole season.
Makes perfect sense to me. I'll use organic fertilizers next year for sure, then.
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bajangreen
Hortic, Phantomx has some good advise for sure but remember liquid fertilizer has it's place, foilar and liquid application works straight away, the best quick fix for any deficiencies. I am finding out that a good soil mix at the start makes for good harvest in the end. Have you been to the growing large plants tread in tom hills forum, long read but chalked full of good info.
Looks like some nice buds there even if you're disappointed with the yield If the price is right then feminized seeds are interesting even for guerillas but perhaps give each plant a little more love - like better spacing.
Starting in pots can be made to work if transplanting is done carefully before the plants begin to get rootbound. Check out THC123's method of using peat pots - he's growing some serious plants. Or check out SovietFinland - I think he's transplanting from a single tray! Still with big plants as a result (although he was unlucky this year with the rain).
Growing in 1-2 liter pots until sex shows can also maximize yield vs the use of soil / space when working with regular seeds.
If the price is right then feminized seeds are interesting even for guerillas but perhaps give each plant a little more love - like better spacing.Starting in pots can be made to work if transplanting is done carefully before the plants begin to get rootbound. Check out THC123's method of using peat pots - he's growing some serious plants. Or check out SovietFinland - I think he's transplanting from a single tray! Still with big plants as a result (although he was unlucky this year with the rain).
Growing in 1-2 liter pots until sex shows can also maximize yield vs the use of soil / space when working with regular seeds.
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bajangreen
So true.
Thanks everyone for your input, it's greatly appreciated.
For fear of losing my entire harvest once the hunting season begins, I will chop down 15 or so of the plants in a few days, and let the other ones mature until mid-September or so. My question is, which plants do I chop down? The shorter ones with shorter internode spacing, with seemingly larger yields (at this point anyway), or the taller ones? I'm torn, because I think a lot of the shorter ones have potential for a decent yield given three more weeks. On the other hand I don't want to chop down the bigger plants either in case their bud production picks up.
Any advice?
For fear of losing my entire harvest once the hunting season begins, I will chop down 15 or so of the plants in a few days, and let the other ones mature until mid-September or so. My question is, which plants do I chop down? The shorter ones with shorter internode spacing, with seemingly larger yields (at this point anyway), or the taller ones? I'm torn, because I think a lot of the shorter ones have potential for a decent yield given three more weeks. On the other hand I don't want to chop down the bigger plants either in case their bud production picks up.
Any advice?
Mr. Tasuri
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Don't chop to early. You invested all season, sorry to hear hunters may find them.
Id take the ones that looked the most ready.
Use bat guano all year
Out here their are several types of bat guano.
Basically:Nitro bat guano, High Phosphorous
Use N bat guano in the spring to amend, use P bat guano in summer to start flowering.
Id take the ones that looked the most ready.
Use bat guano all year
Out here their are several types of bat guano.
Basically:Nitro bat guano, High Phosphorous
Use N bat guano in the spring to amend, use P bat guano in summer to start flowering.
Agreed they will put on a lot of weight from now on as long as they don't get mold or frost - of course you're the one who knows your area and can estimate better how large the risk of them being discovered is.
If you're gonna chop down a couple then do it in a way that gives air to the remaining plants.
If you're gonna chop down a couple then do it in a way that gives air to the remaining plants.
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bajangreen
Ultimately your the one that knows witch ones are the best to pick, what i would do is to take some of both. that way next season you would know witch ones to work with.
Just don't take all from one area so that the spot looks like something is missing it may attract unwanted attention to the ones left. and take the whole plant because the stumps may attract pest.
Just don't take all from one area so that the spot looks like something is missing it may attract unwanted attention to the ones left. and take the whole plant because the stumps may attract pest.
Thanks guys. I will chop down most of the best producers and leave a few behind, I will also try to thin out the "bush" I have now to allow better airflow and light penetration.
I will return with harvest pictures in a few days.
Trimming will be a challenge...Harvest time! Getting ready to go harvest a yet to be undecided number of plants. This feels reeeeally good, I can tell you. Even though I won't get much yield it's been a long time coming and I've been looking forward to this day for over three months now. Now at least part of my paranoia and anxiety will be relieved. I have been worried about a friend of mine that I showed the grow to ripping me off, but I seem to have misjudged his character.
Pictures will be posted tomorrow of the trimming process.
Pictures will be posted tomorrow of the trimming process.
