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Living organic soil from start through recycling

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Gascanastan

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Hey guys!
can i hang? :wave:
What up dawg......organic terrorist recycled organic living soil clubhouse.....myth-based and BS gardening ain't really rollin' here....so again that's what's happening here and those who are on that trip are indeed welcome.
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Seandawg

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What up dawg......organic terrorist recycled organic living soil clubhouse.....myth-based and BS gardening ain't really rollin' here....so again that's what's happening here and those who are on that trip are indeed welcome.
:tiphat:

Recycled organic soil is my style!

Myth-based BS is actually against my religion. Im here to learn my friend, thank you for having me :)
 

ClackamasCootz

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Welcome, Seandawg!

Sean is a stellar organic grower and generous in sharing his methods and more importantly his experiences. Collects his own seaweed/kelp/marine algae (trying to be helpful to our new tag-team), plants for teas, etc.

Stick around!

CC
 
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Toes.

I've been using spinosad and clarified hydrophobic neem on all my outdoor plants this summer. 5mL of each in a 1quart sprayer. mist at dusk once a week. leaf miners are usually my biggest pain... not so much this year.

I've noticed my hot pepper plants are real sensitive to this mix though. I almost killed one of my Minorcan Datil's.

This mix doesn't do too much to aphids. at least not from what I've seen. I had a large Lemon Cucumber plant succumb to these little green bastards this year already. I sprayed and sprayed and sprayed but, they ate the whole thing.
 

ClackamasCootz

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Toes

It's very important to spray these materials as late in the day as possible and indoors that means as close to 'lights out' as possible.

Bright lights can cause problems as well as accelerating the breakdown of the material though not so much on the Spinosad but definitely on the neem products across the boards.

HTH

CC
 

Seandawg

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Welcome, Seandawg!

Sean is a stellar organic grower and generous in sharing his methods and more importantly his experiences. Collects his own seaweed/kelp/marine algae (trying to be helpful to our new tag-team), plants for teas, etc.

Stick around!

CC

Wow! Thanks for the kind words! My organic knowledge is at least on par in our standard! I am still learning (like we all are) but im thankful i had a great teacher to point me in the right direction in terms of books and papers to soak up.

My grow how ever is constantly "challenged" lol. My issue is that im constantly changing things, and as we all know for every action there are reactions. So as i change one variable others change as well. Typically my #1 issue is that i am an effin cheap ass! Fortunately my issues are typically an easy fix, and they could have actually been prevented if handled properly in the first place.

But yeah, in terms of organic. Water only soil, no til / recycled soil with the best quality humus source available is my style. As for genetics and breeding though, i can honestly say i am way behind. but thats something different lol.
 
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YosemiteSam

I don't think that it's any great secret that bugs attack stressed plants. I read that in composting books written in the eighteen hundreds. In a way it's like a predator picking out weaker prey. And it's no secret healthy plants have a higher brix reading(simple sugars). That the mechanisms are being found for well known plant characteristics is interesting, but not earth shattering unless your selling testing equipment.....scrappy

I agree. But I was thinking Gascan's plants are not stressed out and no doubt have high brix levels. I figured that is the point of living organic soil. I am also certain they are not suffering excess nitrate levels and all of the water that goes with it.

It just made me wonder and recall something I had read somewhere along the way. And I am not saying I know it to be true.

Anyways page 3 with Bruce Tainio of this is what I was trying to remember http://www.advancingecoag.com/Advancing_Eco-Agriculture_Learn/AEA Newsletter Nov2010.pdf
 

chief bigsmoke

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aloe vera concentrate

aloe vera concentrate

I just found this in my gf's stash of health foods... I wonder If I could use this for making teas if I exhaust my live plant sources of Aloe Vera?

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ClackamasCootz

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I just found this in my gf's stash of health foods... I wonder If I could use this for making teas if I exhaust my live plant sources of Aloe Vera?

:blowbubbles:
Chief

Of all the commercial Aloe vera products with a wide distribution, this product from Lily of The Desert is probably the best you will find.

You would have to get into the spray-dried and freeze-dried powders to come closer to using live plants and not by much.

CC
 
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bajangreen

do you put aloe vera in the tea when your brewing? what benefit is that to your plants?
 

VerdantGreen

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hi guys, :tiphat: hope you're all sleeping comfortably at this moment

I agree. But I was thinking Gascan's plants are not stressed out and no doubt have high brix levels. I figured that is the point of living organic soil. I am also certain they are not suffering excess nitrate levels and all of the water that goes with it.

It just made me wonder and recall something I had read somewhere along the way. And I am not saying I know it to be true.

Anyways page 3 with Bruce Tainio of this is what I was trying to remember http://www.advancingecoag.com/Advancing_Eco-Agriculture_Learn/AEA Newsletter Nov2010.pdf

whilst its is generally true that pests will attack weakened plants, and certainly sap sucking insects like mites will have a preference for the kind of soft, sappy growth that is encouraged by excess nitrogen etc, i think in the specific case of mites on cannabis they will quite happily infest whatever is available to them.
i find that if they have a choice, they tend to prefer aromatic and thin leaved varieties - often its the ones we ourselves prefer to smoke, most mites have good taste.
To this end, if i had room in my canopy, i would consider using Basil plants as a 'sacrificial' (making sure they dont actually carry pests into the garden when you install them)
basil i think might be one of the few plants that, for mites, might be preferable to cannabis. it is very soft leaved, especially when grown fast, and nice and aromatic. a veritable mite magnet i have found...

VG
 

ClackamasCootz

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As for genetics and breeding though, i can honestly say i am way behind
I wouldn't worry much about that, I mean have you ever been to the breeder forums for shits & grins?

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily" - Bluto

It couldn't hurt and it will probably enhance the experience! Don't forget your Dolomite lime!!

LMAO
 

gregor_mendel

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I am very excited. My package from Horizon Herbs Just arrived. One week from Oregon to Colorado.

I have:

True Comfrey
Alfalfa
Coastal Yarrow
Stinging Nettles
Borage

I didn't bother researching culture of these plants before buying.
Off to to do that now.
 

Seandawg

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I wouldn't worry much about that, I mean have you ever been to the breeder forums for shits & grins?

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily" - Bluto

It couldn't hurt and it will probably enhance the experience! Don't forget your Dolomite lime!!

LMAO

Coral, dolomite, Its all the same lmao

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ClackamasCootz

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Coral, dolomite, Its all the same lmao
The Ignorance Olympics is seeing some really tough competition this week with Milk and Chinese chemical 'kelp' leading the field.

Hopefully the Calcium and the Humanure divisions will be able to stay in the competition.

"Go for the gold, Cupcake!"
 

gregor_mendel

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CC asked:
Were you pleased with their customer service regarding your order?

I never spoke to anyone, but everything worked out in the timing they suggested it would, so I say yes.

Not their fault, but it looks like germinating comfrey is a pain in the ass. It would probably have been better to order some live plants on this particular item. The rest of the seeds look pretty straightforward.

Anyone here ever germinated comfrey?

The package says to sew in cool spring soils, or to give them 30 days in a refrigerator with moist soil in a plastic bag.

I tend to germinate all seeds the way CC does (push it into some soil in a pot)
These "make sure they're cold before they're hot" seeds scare me.

g_m
 
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