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Living organic soil from start through recycling
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I thought I would just put out a reminder for anyone living in the Northeast there is a amazing seminar starting tomm. in Northampton MA. It is presented by some incredibly smart, down to earth and easy to understand presenters. A wealth of knowledge will be presented right along the lines of this thread. It is very much worth the effort it would take to get there for anyone living in the NE and would like a more indepth understanding on what is happening in the soil. I went to one last year and have been looking forward to this since then.
Here is the link with a outline of the 2 days...http://www.nofamass.org/events/soil...ence-putting-principles-practice#.UQlH2b_LTcw
While looking for that link I went to the Bio-nutrient web site (http://bionutrient.org). There is a wealth of info there, i know this is gonna keep me busy read, listening and watching all the interviews, research and articles. Such as...http://bionutrient.org/library/recommended-reading
One of the main presenters runs this organization, one of the others is the owner of Advancing Eco Ag. I would also recommend goggling them. They put out quarterly pamphlets with great information of building soil fertility and how to achieve the highest Secondary Plant Metabolites possible, And as we may or may not know is SPM are TERPENES, and metabolites related to higher plant health and pest/dis-ease resistance.
I hope someone else will make it to this class so I will have help trying to explain/decipher what was presented and regurgitate to the wonderful souls who are trying to grow the best medicine possible both smoke able and eatable, because food should be medicine as well.
Timbuktu
Here is the link with a outline of the 2 days...http://www.nofamass.org/events/soil...ence-putting-principles-practice#.UQlH2b_LTcw
While looking for that link I went to the Bio-nutrient web site (http://bionutrient.org). There is a wealth of info there, i know this is gonna keep me busy read, listening and watching all the interviews, research and articles. Such as...http://bionutrient.org/library/recommended-reading
One of the main presenters runs this organization, one of the others is the owner of Advancing Eco Ag. I would also recommend goggling them. They put out quarterly pamphlets with great information of building soil fertility and how to achieve the highest Secondary Plant Metabolites possible, And as we may or may not know is SPM are TERPENES, and metabolites related to higher plant health and pest/dis-ease resistance.
I hope someone else will make it to this class so I will have help trying to explain/decipher what was presented and regurgitate to the wonderful souls who are trying to grow the best medicine possible both smoke able and eatable, because food should be medicine as well.
Timbuktu
I also have to second the fact that scinice I have swiched to only Kelp/Alfalfa teas, Sprout teas, Aloe, Humic/Fulvics, neps fish and pro tek My plants are screaming. Def. the best run I have ever had and with minimal inputs and headaches.
Thank you all so, so much this info and the push for every to research themselves it is inspirational. My plants thank you.
Timbuktu
Thank you all so, so much this info and the push for every to research themselves it is inspirational. My plants thank you.
Timbuktu
invocation
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I was checking this out the other day http://www.biodynamics.in/BD502.htm
"The Compost Preps - 502-507 - are all made from medicinal herbs. BD502-506 are humus-like, rich in beneficial bacterial life and minerals. BD507 is a liquid. They radiate cosmic influences and forces throughout the compost heap aiding the transformation of compost material into humus."
"The Compost Preps - 502-507 - are all made from medicinal herbs. BD502-506 are humus-like, rich in beneficial bacterial life and minerals. BD507 is a liquid. They radiate cosmic influences and forces throughout the compost heap aiding the transformation of compost material into humus."
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greenmatter
^^^^ interesting
i'm pretty sure that this is the first time i have read about "cosmic influences" in my compost pile
getting a lot of flashes and visuals in my head that are just to fucking strange to post
.......... thank you for that!
i'm pretty sure that this is the first time i have read about "cosmic influences" in my compost pile
getting a lot of flashes and visuals in my head that are just to fucking strange to post
.......... thank you for that!
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YosemiteSam
say Cootz
say Cootz
So next outdoor I am going with the 1/3 Premier Peat, 1/3 Lava Rock, 1/3 compost/ewc. Definetly your neem/kelp/crustacean.
Couple of questions though:
1) basalt or glacial rock dust or some combo?
2) my compost is going to be fair but I would not call it great and I just cannot come up with enough vermicompost this yr. Given that I will probably do some vermi teas...but here is the question...without the help of the worms digestive system do you have an opinion if I need to add any "lime"? Probably just CaCO3 as I am guessing the compost I can get has enough Mg.
say Cootz
So next outdoor I am going with the 1/3 Premier Peat, 1/3 Lava Rock, 1/3 compost/ewc. Definetly your neem/kelp/crustacean.
Couple of questions though:
1) basalt or glacial rock dust or some combo?
2) my compost is going to be fair but I would not call it great and I just cannot come up with enough vermicompost this yr. Given that I will probably do some vermi teas...but here is the question...without the help of the worms digestive system do you have an opinion if I need to add any "lime"? Probably just CaCO3 as I am guessing the compost I can get has enough Mg.
RanchoDeluxe
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I seem to vaguely remember seeing Merle Saunders at the Iron Horse (think that's the name of the place)
back in the early 90's. What's the name of the college right outside Northampton, MA? I remember the girls name I 'visited' there. Haven't been back east in 10 good solid years.
back in the early 90's. What's the name of the college right outside Northampton, MA? I remember the girls name I 'visited' there. Haven't been back east in 10 good solid years.
W89--I got a bottle of 99.7% aloe juice at a health food store. Turns out it's made about an hour from me. Fairly cheap, too.
Yup well Smith College is the school, Ivy league all girls. I did some painting there in the past, now you have to be a girl to date one there, about a 90% lesbian.
Ironically the class is directly across the street from the Iron Horse, in the Universalist Church. They hold it in the church and not UMASS Amherst (a AG school) because some of the presenters talked ill at last years summer conference (held at UMASS) of the UMASS Ag dept on only recognizing 17 minerals grow plants. We all know how true that is. So they don't let the class be held there, this stuff is over their head.
Timbuktu
YosemiteSam
Question 1: Either one and a mix also has some advantages. If you have one and finding the other would incur some crazy costs then go with what you have. I have a preference for Basalt but some of that is that it's a locally produced product. Big deal, right? LOL
Question 2: What about using Gypsum because that will give you elemental Calcium and then you have the Sulfur which does what you already know and that will deconstruct the Calcium Carbonate in the crustacean shells. If you decided that might work for you then I'd suggest something like 1/2 cup to 1 c.f. which would basically be 1 tablespoon (+) per gallon of potting soil.
Does that make sense given your understanding Sulfur in a soil mix?
CC
This stuff over the road is 99.9% i think £3.99 for a small bottle will prob get that when I get bit more cast bought a new fan yesterday and skint me out.. Got the S & P TD-350/125 SILENT seems like a good fan Very quiet 20db
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YosemiteSam
That actually sounds genius. I had actually been wondering if there was enough SO4 in these mixes...kinda depends on what went into the compost...but then this did not occur to me...fookin stoner.
Thanks man.
The smells emitting from these ROLS plants are getting ridiculous. The tri's are increasing, smells are more pronounced, distinct and stronger. Now its about time for the swell to pop off...
No barley yet on any of these. That's next round.
Aloe, Si, and neem sprays with water and tea's and its been a lovely ride.....
No barley yet on any of these. That's next round.
Aloe, Si, and neem sprays with water and tea's and its been a lovely ride.....
Cann
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Finally finished the entire thread...407 pages...all I can say is 
I will be a better gardener for the rest of my life because of this...not to mention a better human in general. Can't wait to spread the good word to others
Now its off to consolidate my notes into something semi-coherent...
I will be a better gardener for the rest of my life because of this...not to mention a better human in general. Can't wait to spread the good word to others
Now its off to consolidate my notes into something semi-coherent...
Cann
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Done. Lets hope it is truly Finis and Ovah
I trust you that it will be. I want to be bored with my indoor garden so I can focus my attention on the backyard....Sprayed the ladies with neem/protekt/aloe today - leaves are praying as usual. They've been praying for a few days ever since I watered with a coconut/aloe solution
Now for my newb question of the day: what is the latest into flower that you will apply a neem foliar (or a foliar of any kind for that matter)? I would potentially worry about neem taste if it was sprayed pretty late, but what about a ful-power or sprouted seed enzyme foliar in mid to late flower? I am in the desert so mildew isn't as much of as issue, but it's not out of the picture either. thanks in advance
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